Anyone see us passing on the pick?

[ironwasp]

Just been reading the draft rules to satisfy myself on something that's been bothering me: whether you can just pass up on a pick and what happens then.

It seems that if, for example, we had the two pick and didn't use it in the allotted 15 minutes, the number three team than pick and we can go back in anytime afterwards.

So if the Pats wanted to just drift down to low single figures - if they couldn't sort a trade or whatever - to avoid paying the high guaranteed money, they just don't pick until they're ready.

Anyone see BB and SP doing that?

 

[dryheat44]

Why not? I don't think they could make it obvious, but if they really can't trade the number two pick, they could try again with the number three or four pick.

I doubt they would even pick lower than that though, because you're just pissing away value.

 

[BelichickFan]

First, my answer is no because even if we take minimal value we will be able to trade down.

But if we tried it, it can be risky because once you skip it's first come first served and if you aren't "in line" waiting to get your pick in, several teams could beat you to the commish for picks 3,4,5, etc.

 

[ironwasp]

Why not? I don't think they could make it obvious, but if they really can't trade the number two pick, they could try again with the number three or four pick.

I doubt they would even pick lower than that though, because you're just pissing away value.

I know what you mean, but if you can't effect a trade, then the pick has no value.

If you did start drifting, would it still be possible to trade that pick?

 

[dryheat44]

I know what you mean, but if you can't effect a trade, then the pick has no value.

Of course it does. It has the value of the second choice of players. Then the third. Then the fourth. If you keep sliding down to eighth or so, you've let some premium players go by without getting anything in return except for a negligibly smaller contract. The only way that makes sense is if a guy like Ikeguanu is Belichick's favorite player...one that he'd take at #2 if forced to.

If you did start drifting, would it still be possible to trade that pick?

You would probably have to draft the player and then trade him to the team that wants him at that point, because you don't actually have a draft slot to trade.

 

[ironwasp]

Of course it does. It has the value of the second choice of players. Then the third. Then the fourth. If you keep sliding down to eighth or so, you've let some premium players go by without getting anything in return except for a negligibly smaller contract. The only way that makes sense is if a guy like Iguonowo is Belichick's favorite player...one that he'd take at #2 if forced to.



You would probably have to draft the player and then trade him to the team that wants him at that point, because you don't actually have a draft slot to trade.

That's what I figured. Thanks.

If the 9ers keep on losing it's going to be really interesting to see how they deal with having an uncharacteristically high draft choice. And actually I guess that even if they win some it'll be at least a dozen picks higher than usual.

 

[cstjohn17]

Just been reading the draft rules to satisfy myself on something that's been bothering me: whether you can just pass up on a pick and what happens then.

It seems that if, for example, we had the two pick and didn't use it in the allotted 15 minutes, the number three team than pick and we can go back in anytime afterwards.

So if the Pats wanted to just drift down to low single figures - if they couldn't sort a trade or whatever - to avoid paying the high guaranteed money, they just don't pick until they're ready.

Anyone see BB and SP doing that?

I don't know if they would do it but man would it be funny, ultimately they would get a trade down partner or take a players they like at a much more reasonable salary.

 

[ironwasp]

I don't know if they would do it but man would it be funny, ultimately they would get a trade down partner or take a players they like at a much more reasonable salary.

If they were to do it, and made it clear why (unlikely) it might prompt more realistic debate about first round draft choices are paid. It must be in the NFLPA's interest to see a more equitable distribution of rookie money, no? And it sure as hell doesn't make sense to the teams to continue on like this.