Patriots' Harrison Thinks Big Ben is One of the Best - One of the Very Best.

[mtbykr]

I don't remember what he said, but didn't Mike Tomlin rip BB during spygate? If so this game won't be close. Maybe someone can remember what he said.

 

[Joker]

Get a clue Reign... how can you be this lost? Pittsburgh had Porter who ran his mouth in the media... he's like the only one in the past 50 years to talk trash publicly. Anthony Smith... I don't think you'll be hearing anything from his mouth for a while. Pittsburgh is filled with respectful players.

I could've sworn Greg Lloyd played for the Steelers.

 

[TIMEsteelersfan]

Use some common sense. And just because he was on the field does not make whatever he has to say true. Bart Scott, Chris McCallister, Samari Rolle, and Derrick Mason were all on the field, and all four of them said something along the lines of the game being fixed. Does that make it true? Do they have the right to say something that is incorrect because they were involved on the field? No. Stupidity is stupidity, regardless of whether or not someone participated "on the field."

You're right, it doesn't make it true because he was on the field. However, it doesn't make it false either. I don't like that he said it, but he's certainly entitled. We should've won that game and we blew it... I'm sure he has some sour grapes about it. You guys should expect this though.. spygate changed the way the NFL world views the Patriots and there's nothing you can do about it except move on. There's a certain ambiguity that's always going to be there from now on... just the way it is.

 

[bradmahn]

You're right, it doesn't make it true because he was on the field. However, it doesn't make it false either. I don't like that he said it, but he's certainly entitled. We should've won that game and we blew it... I'm sure he has some sour grapes about it. You guys should expect this though.. spygate changed the way the NFL world views the Patriots and there's nothing you can do about it except move on. There's a certain ambiguity that's always going to be there from now on... just the way it is.

How can you say "we should've won that game and we blew it" in this thread, but in another you say that in '05 the Steelers were (and I quote) "undoubtedly" the best team? Maybe if the Steelers didn't think they were entitled to victories they wouldn't have sucked in Pittsburgh the only times they've hosted the AFCCG this decade.

Maybe.

 

[Wildo7]

You're right, it doesn't make it true because he was on the field. However, it doesn't make it false either. I don't like that he said it, but he's certainly entitled. We should've won that game and we blew it... I'm sure he has some sour grapes about it. You guys should expect this though.. spygate changed the way the NFL world views the Patriots and there's nothing you can do about it except move on. There's a certain ambiguity that's always going to be there from now on... just the way it is.

That doesn't mean that we should just accept the ambiguous view of the Pats in all forms. I think most of us have moved on from it and the irony is that it's mostly other fans that constantly bring it up. I'd say that besides the Ward comment and A Smith (rookie mulligan), the Steelers have been pretty classy. What makes Pats fans incensed is when "spygate" is used as a trump card in all conversation. The Pats have always carried themselves in a classy way (I'm getting real sick of that word lol) and have never talked trash through the media especially before a game, and the fact that most of us Pats fans were forced to look into what "spygate" actually was and I think we channel a lot of the players anger at having to take whatever the media and other teams throw at them because the coach taped defensive signals from the sidelines.

 

[PatriotsReign]

You're right, it doesn't make it true because he was on the field. However, it doesn't make it false either. I don't like that he said it, but he's certainly entitled. We should've won that game and we blew it... I'm sure he has some sour grapes about it. You guys should expect this though.. spygate changed the way the NFL world views the Patriots and there's nothing you can do about it except move on. There's a certain ambiguity that's always going to be there from now on... just the way it is.

No, it's actually very rarely discussed in the media already. Since everyone knows it wasn't a big deal, it won't linger. After all, how long can opposing fans act so hypocritical? The only ones who consistently hold onto it are typically opposing fans who are sick & tired of watching the Patriots dynasty continue year after year. And now this year they are even better than ever before.

Surprisingly, fans are even getting frustrated with the frequency which top free agents sign with the Patriots for less than they would with any other team just to get a shot at a title. Why this bothers anyone is beyond me, but it does seem to get under opposing fans skin.

 

[TIMEsteelersfan]

How can you say "we should've won that game and we blew it" in this thread, but in another you say that in '05 the Steelers were (and I quote) "undoubtedly" the best team? Maybe if the Steelers didn't think they were entitled to victories they wouldn't have sucked in Pittsburgh the only times they've hosted the AFCCG this decade.

Maybe.

Let me clarify my stance. When I say we blew I mean that because we were the #1 seed, we were playing at home, we had the leagues best defense, the leagues best rushing attack. Every thing was lined up just like a movie script, then Kordell throws 3 picks and lost us the game. We blew it. You guys cause the picks and deserved to win I don't mean it that way. You were the better team... we had our chance and blew it.

 

[TIMEsteelersfan]

No, it's actually very rarely discussed in the media already. Since everyone knows it wasn't a big deal, it won't linger. After all, how long can opposing fans act so hypocritical? The only ones who consistently hold onto it are typically opposing fans who are sick & tired of watching the Patriots dynasty continue year after year. And now this year they are even better than ever before.

Surprisingly, fans are even getting frustrated with the frequency which top free agents sign with the Patriots for less than they would with any other team just to get a shot at a title. Why this bothers anyone is beyond me, but it does seem to get under opposing fans skin.

It's rarely discussed now that it's been swept under the rug by the NFL. Nobody will ever know if it had an impact or not.. personally I don't think one way or the other. What I do know is that the NFL passed down record fines, then destroyed all the evidence without ever disclosing it... very suspicious behavior. You're crazy if you think it's history already... your championships are tainted in the eyes of many. Not my own though.

 

[bradmahn]

Let me clarify my stance. When I say we blew I mean that because we were the #1 seed, we were playing at home, we had the leagues best defense, the leagues best rushing attack. Every thing was lined up just like a movie script, then Kordell throws 3 picks and lost us the game. We blew it. You guys cause the picks and deserved to win I don't mean it that way. You were the better team... we had our chance and blew it.

Fair enough.

 

[mtbykr]

Just heard it on WEEI:

"Where there is smoke there is fire, there are rumors out there and they started from something." ---Tomlin


There was more but that's all i got.

**just a sidenote, the only playoff contender the steelers have beaten this year is Seattle in Pittsburg

 

[bradmahn]

It's rarely discussed now that it's been swept under the rug by the NFL. Nobody will ever know if it had an impact or not.. personally I don't think one way or the other. What I do know is that the NFL passed down record fines, then destroyed all the evidence without ever disclosing it... very suspicious behavior. You're crazy if you think it's history already... your championships are tainted in the eyes of many. Not my own though.

The NFL did not have to disclose the evidence, and it's clowns like Easterbrook and King who think that they should have. Goodell reviewed the tapes and decided there was nothing on them that compromised the integrity of the wins (otherwise there would have been more fines).

In a couple years the Patriots championships will be considered as legitimate as the Steelers championships of the seventies (despite widespread steroid use, which, unlike "Spygate," most definitely affects the play on the field) and the Denver Broncos championships of the nineties (despite abuse of the salary cap, which, unlike "Spygate," most definitely affects the play on the field).

 

[PatriotsReign]

It's rarely discussed now that it's been swept under the rug by the NFL. Nobody will ever know if it had an impact or not.. personally I don't think one way or the other. What I do know is that the NFL passed down record fines, then destroyed all the evidence without ever disclosing it... very suspicious behavior. You're crazy if you think it's history already... your championships are tainted in the eyes of many. Not my own though.

Since no ones talking about it, it IS history already bro!

 

[JoeSixPat]

This is all about Rodney showing an immature Steelers player how to handle inter-team relations heading into a heated contest.

Even though he's praising Rothlesberger, he's really saying FU to the Steelers.

He's insulting Smith and no one in the Burgh and they can't even figure it out!

 

[vyrago]

Though I'm sure [Rodney]'s going out of his way to make sure he provides no ulletin board material.

Isn't he doing what Ted Johnson described in that interview as "pouring honey on him"?

 

[TIMEsteelersfan]

The NFL did not have to disclose the evidence, and it's clowns like Easterbrook and King who think that they should have. Goodell reviewed the tapes and decided there was nothing on them that compromised the integrity of the wins (otherwise there would have been more fines).

In a couple years the Patriots championships will be considered as legitimate as the Steelers championships of the seventies (despite widespread steroid use, which, unlike "Spygate," most definitely affects the play on the field) and the Denver Broncos championships of the nineties (despite abuse of the salary cap, which, unlike "Spygate," most definitely affects the play on the field).

Goodell wanted nothing to effect the integrity of the NFL, that's why he didn't disclose the tapes or add fines. The NFL wanted this to disappear as fast as possible... mission accomplished. I don't think it effected the outcome of games, but most of the sports world does... you guys have to learn to live with that.

Steroids. Every team used them including Pittsburgh. We dominated the 70's so we're the target for everybody. Do steroids make you a better football player? No. They make you stronger. They don't improve technique, work ethic, film study, deisre, leadership, speed, quickness, blocking, tackling ect. ect. They make you stronger. Period. Not nearly as big an advantage as knowing what defense you opponent is in. Not even in the same realm.

 

[TIMEsteelersfan]

Since no ones talking about it, it IS history already bro!

Nobody IN THE MEDIA is talking about it because it's been beaten to death and then cut off at the legs. The Pats cheated, they got caught red handed, they were punished, they surrended god knows how many tapes and the NFL destroyed them which left no avenue for the Media to persue. Just because they're not talking about it means that people have forgotten... It will always be in the back of peoples minds when they watch the Patriots. I don't think it effected anything, but I still can't help but think about it when I watch them.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Goodell wanted nothing to effect the integrity of the NFL, that's why he didn't disclose the tapes or add fines. The NFL wanted this to disappear as fast as possible... mission accomplished. I don't think it effected the outcome of games, but most of the sports world does... you guys have to learn to live with that.

Steroids. Every team used them including Pittsburgh. We dominated the 70's so we're the target for everybody. Do steroids make you a better football player? No. They make you stronger. They don't improve technique, work ethic, film study, deisre, leadership, speed, quickness, blocking, tackling ect. ect. They make you stronger. Period. Not nearly as big an advantage as knowing what defense you opponent is in. Not even in the same realm.

Steelers fans holding onto their 70's greatness gets old & tired. That would be like us constantly bringing up the greatest dynasty in sports history, the Boston Celtics...that is HISTORY Time...history. No one gives a F*** about the 70's Steelers but Steeler fans.

 

[bradmahn]

Goodell wanted nothing to effect the integrity of the NFL, that's why he didn't disclose the tapes or add fines. The NFL wanted this to disappear as fast as possible... mission accomplished. I don't think it effected the outcome of games, but most of the sports world does... you guys have to learn to live with that.

Steroids. Every team used them including Pittsburgh. We dominated the 70's so we're the target for everybody. Do steroids make you a better football player? No. They make you stronger. They don't improve technique, work ethic, film study, deisre, leadership, speed, quickness, blocking, tackling ect. ect. They make you stronger. Period. Not nearly as big an advantage as knowing what defense you opponent is in. Not even in the same realm.

Knowing the defense does not "improve technique, work ethic, film study, deisre [sic], leadership, speed, quickness, blocking, tackling, ect. [sic] ect. [sic]."

Steroids can indeed make you faster and quicker, and being stronger does indeed help in blocking and tackling. And I haven't seen evidence of such widespread use of steroids in the NFL in the seventies, in fact I've heard and read that the Steelers were responsible for the introduction of such performance enhancing drugs. And quite commonly has it been noted among former NFL players and coaches that videotaping signals is fairly widespread. "We dominated the 2000s, so we're the target for everybody."

I would agree, they are not in the same realm. But there is also a reason that the NFL hands out severe suspensions because of steroid use, whereas the filming of signals on the sidelines (stealing signals is not against the rules, taping them on the sidelines is) "only" deserves a fine.

 

[TIMEsteelersfan]

Steelers fans holding onto their 70's greatness gets old & tired. That would be like us constantly bringing up the greatest dynasty in sports history, the Boston Celtics...that is HISTORY Time...history. No one gives a F*** about the 70's Steelers but Steeler fans.

Yeah nobody cares about one of the greatest teams of all time. Man you're losing it. That statement right there tells me that you're a Patriots fan, not a football fan. People care about the 50's browns, the 60's packers, the 70's steelers, the 80's 49ers' the 90's Cowboys and yes the millenium Patriots. They are some of the best teams ever. Not to mention I only brought up the 70's steelers AFTER a new england fan brought it up.

Why do you troll on your own board?

 

[PatriotsReign]

Yeah nobody cares about one of the greatest teams of all time. Man you're losing it. That statement right there tells me that you're a Patriots fan, not a football fan. People care about the 50's browns, the 60's packers, the 70's steelers, the 80's 49ers' the 90's Cowboys and yes the millenium Patriots. They are some of the best teams ever. Not to mention I only brought up the 70's steelers AFTER a new england fan brought it up.

Why do you troll on your own board?

Not a homer Time...just a Pats fan keeping a troll on his toes by trying to bait you. I commend your reaction...a lesser fan might have lost it and been banned.