Take the kid gloves off BB: Use Maroney

[VJCPatriot]

Maroney needs to get more INVOLVED in the Offense.
I don't carry if he averages 3.1 ypc again, I think he should run the ball at least 15-20 times against the Ravens. Making the Ravens respect the run will open up the passing game.

Sure it would be helpful if he averaged more than 3.1 ypc, but the point is to make the running game a facet of the offense. We've seen that a one-dimensional offense is teed off against too easily by good defensive teams and in the end just makes life harder for Brady and friends.

I don't think it's any good to baby Maroney. Throw him into the teeth of the lion. He is the only viable RB the Patriots have right now whether we have the greatest confidence in him or not. Don't baby him, he's a professional football player. The running game needs to come back in NE, and right now that means USE Maroney.

 

[Va_Pats_Fan]

Re: Maroney needs to get more INVOLVED in the Offense

I don't carry if he averages 3.1 ypc again, I think he should run the ball at least 15-20 times against the Ravens. Making the Ravens respect the run will open up the passing game.

Sure it would be helpful if he averaged more than 3.1 ypc, but the point is to make the running game a facet of the offense. We've seen that a one-dimensional offense is teed off against too easily by good defensive teams and in the end just makes life harder for Brady and friends.

And you think its HIS decision? You should of entitled this "BB needs to get Maroney more involved".

I agree with the basic premise tho, I would like to see some more carries.

 

[DefenseRules]

Re: Maroney needs to get more INVOLVED in the Offense

Tell BB and McDaniels.

 

[antimennai]

Re: Maroney needs to get more INVOLVED in the Offense

Oh Heck NO. Maroney needs to do what BB tells him to do. It doesn't matter what you think a gameplan should be, how you think this team can win, or what you think of your momma's cooking. It is what it is. Other people (the ones who call the shots like BB or your momma) have differing opinions. In the case of BB, HIS GAMEPLAN IS ALL THAT MATTERS. WHAT HE CALLS WILL WIN. WE ARE NOT 11-0 OUT OF LUCK. MARONEY DIDN'T MAKE US 11-0.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Re: Maroney needs to get more INVOLVED in the Offense

And you think its HIS decision? You should of entitled this "BB needs to get Maroney more involved".

I agree with the basic premise tho, I would like to see some more carries.

It's pretty obvious that BB would have to make the call. I just assumed that.

I really don't like the way the Philadelphia gameplan turned out.
Bringing back the running game will make life easier for the entire offense imo. I don't care if you get 8.0 ypa per pass and only 4.0 ypc per rush.

A balanced offense throws the defense off-balance. It is well worth sacrificing the carries to Maroney in order to make the passing game and play action more effective.

Repeating the Philly gameplan will eventually get Brady killed. The Ravens still have some very talented players on defense, and if you let em tee off vs empty backfield shotgun the whole game, somebody is gonna get hurt. I'm sure motivation won't be a problem for them either, what with Ray Lewis and AD not seeing eye to eye.

 

[Deus Irae]

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I'd say this is getting ridiculous, but it passed ridiculous many threads ago.

 

[mcbee]

Running Maroney is pointless when every time he does it's for 1 or 2 yards.

It's turns 1st and 10 into 2nd and 8 every time. And 2nd and 8 becomes an obvoius passing down.

If Maroney could actually plough through some bodies and get 4 or 5 yards, it might be interesting, but that doesn't happen often.

Using Maroney is putting the kid gloves ON.

 

[antimennai]

Holy Cow, now I get it. It all makes sense. This numnut would rather have the ball in the hands of Maroney than Brady to win a game. The fact is that you are one of those Bledsoe anti-Brady guys who just do not have a clue. This has to be the reason why you insist that Maroney must carry the ball instead of the way BB chooses his HOF QB who is having the best season of any QB in history to win games. Since Drew isn't signed, maybe we could go get him for you and Bench Brady.

 

[bakes781]

Holy Cow, now I get it. It all makes sense. This numnut would rather have the ball in the hands of Maroney than Brady to win a game. The fact is that you are one of those Bledsoe anti-Brady guys who just do not have a clue. This has to be the reason why you insist that Maroney must carry the ball instead of the way BB chooses his HOF QB who is having the best season of any QB in history to win games. Since Drew isn't signed, maybe we could go get him for you and Bench Brady.

Don't be ridiculous! Tom Brady won them that game the other night without a doubt. The fact is we should have won by 3 scores easy! The reason we didn't was primarily because Feeley played great, but also because offensively we played right into Jim Johnson's hands. It's not even a matter of actually running the ball for me, but at least show the threat of one!

 

[richpats]

Give me a break - Philly has one of the best run D's in the league. Let's just play right into their strength why don't we?

The passing game gave us hope Sunday night. It wasn't pretty or easy, but it got the job done.

And Maroney may as well not dress for Monday night- Baltimore has THE best run D in the league, but I imagine some folks here will whine and call him soft all the same when we throw 50 times.

 

[bakes781]

Give me a break - Philly has one of the best run D's in the league. Let's just play right into their strength why don't we?

The passing game gave us hope Sunday night. It wasn't pretty or easy, but it got the job done.

And Maroney may as well not dress for Monday night- Baltimore has THE best run D in the league, but I imagine some folks here will whine and call him soft all the same when we throw 50 times.

I'll agree that running the ball against Baltimore will be a challenge, but I refuse to believe Philly's strength is the same. The only thing saving us from our 1st loss was #12 in blue. Had they forced Philly to respect the run the outcome would have been similar to what we've been seeing all season.

 

[SVN]

here is what BB said on the radio show which answers this thread

Sheppard: "These questions about running the ball keep popping up and I don't know how you do it, because I'd just say, 'You guys are stupid. You don't know what you're talking about. We're scoring 38 points a game and you're complaining about Laurence Maroney not getting touches.'"
Belichick: "Last night was a good example of a team like Philadelphia that had quite a few guys up on the line of scrimmage and they're blitzing them. Well, if you can't block them in the passing game, you can't block them in the running game, either. I mean, they still have one more than you can block in pass protection, they have one more than you can block in the running game. And again, a lot of times those blitzes were hard to…not hard, but they did a good job of disguising them. So, you know, you think they're coming from one side and then you run to the other way and they switch their blitz at the last second and you're running right into it. That's not really the answer, either. If a team's pressuring you, then every once in a while you might split them in the running game. But for the most part you got single coverage out there with a good quarterback and good receivers, I think it would be a mistake not to take advantage of those matchups."

 

[bakes781]

You can also use screens & they didn't until the 2nd half.

 

[antimennai]

Don't be ridiculous! Tom Brady won them that game the other night without a doubt. The fact is we should have won by 3 scores easy! The reason we didn't was primarily because Feeley played great, but also because offensively we played right into Jim Johnson's hands. It's not even a matter of actually running the ball for me, but at least show the threat of one!

ummmm dude i know. my post was sarcasm at the poster who started an idiot thread..

 

[Deus Irae]

I'll agree that running the ball against Baltimore will be a challenge, but I refuse to believe Philly's strength is the same. The only thing saving us from our 1st loss was #12 in blue. Had they forced Philly to respect the run the outcome would have been similar to what we've been seeing all season.

This "theory" has already been thoroughly debunked.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Maroney needs to get more INVOLVED in the Offense.
I don't carry if he averages 3.1 ypc again, I think he should run the ball at least 15-20 times against the Ravens. Making the Ravens respect the run will open up the passing game.

Sure it would be helpful if he averaged more than 3.1 ypc, but the point is to make the running game a facet of the offense. We've seen that a one-dimensional offense is teed off against too easily by good defensive teams and in the end just makes life harder for Brady and friends.

I don't think it's any good to baby Maroney. Throw him into the teeth of the lion. He is the only viable RB the Patriots have right now whether we have the greatest confidence in him or not. Don't baby him, he's a professional football player. The running game needs to come back in NE, and right now that means USE Maroney.

One of the multitude of things that Bill knows that you don't is what you think doesn't matter. He will do what he thinks gives this team it's best chance to win. What you might want to do in the interim is get over yourself. When you're not busy telling Bill what to do you're turtling over every missed tackle or dropped pass or injury report or mediot spin.

Really, this team deserves a far superior fan base to the spoiled, entitled, demanding, hypersentitive kneejerk one that has developed here lately.

 

[bakes781]

So anyone who questions anything should just keep it to themselves is that it???

I love the Pats. I think they're having a dream season just like everyone else, but to see that they might have some flaws isn't a bad thing. I hate to tell ya, but NO team is perfect. At the same time I think they have an excellent chance at going undefeated.

 

[Ice Cold Bruschi]

I agree Brady got pretty beat up last game and if he's passing 40+ times in a game (in this case 54 attempts!) he's gonna take more shots than normal. Run the ball to slow the damn rush, I can't even recall running a draw to Faulk the entire game and that play is good for about two first downs a game.

 

[bakes781]

This "theory" has already been thoroughly debunked.

So Philly is the 2nd best team in the NFL is that your "theory"?

 

[MoLewisrocks]

So anyone who questions anything should just keep it to themselves is that it???

I love the Pats. I think they're having a dream season just like everyone else, but to see that they might have some flaws isn't a bad thing. I hate to tell ya, but NO team is perfect. At the same time I think they have an excellent chance at going undefeated.

There is a distinct difference between questioning something and making an uninformed judgement and based on that demanding that a HOF HC do it the way the fan wants. Fans often operate in hindsight where every failed play was the wrong one and every alternative they present would have worked swimmingly. This team is 11-0. It's fine to have a few nagging concerns, but the level and tone of the criticism here is ridiculous. I know some of you feel this is venting space, and you have to have something to talk about. There is a viable alternative though. You can enjoy the ride and to some extent STFU.