I am sad

[National Sports Advisors]

Two questions:

1. What is Maroney's yards per carry average?

2. What is the league average for RBs?

Two more questions:

1. What was Maroney's yards per carry average last year?

2. What was the league average last for RBs last year?

And what is your point? Is it fair to compare Maroney's YPC running in an offense that has Tom Brady at QB to LT who has Phillip River at QB? How about Adrian Peterson with Tavares Jackson at QB? How about Larry Johnson with Brodie Croyle? You can't compare. It's just like comparing Manning's TD stats last year with Harrison and Wayne to Brady who had Caldwell and Gaffney. Apples to oranges. Bottom line, Maroney is a JAG right now. A JAG.

 

[Deus Irae]

Ummm, are you comapring Schotty and Norv to BB? Puhleaze. BB plays the best players. He goes with what gives him the best oppurtunity to win. If you think he would have LT out of the gameplan, than you are wrong.

And once again you change your argument. Don't you ever get tired of moving the goalposts?

 

[National Sports Advisors]

You are wrong on so many levels.

1) LT is in a category all by himself.
2) You do a disservice to both LT and Maroney by pathetically attempting to compare the two
3) Just because YOUR expectations are unrealistic doesn't mean that the rest of the world's expectations are.
4) Maroney IS a damn good RB. Your bias against him shows your ignorance.

Maroney is a DAM GOOD RB? Based on what? What does he do that is better than average? He is average in every facet of the position. Plus, he is a non-factor in the passing game. He stinks as a pass receiver. Stinks.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

And once again you change your argument. Don't you ever get tired of moving the goalposts?

How are you going to compare "gameplans" of Schotty and Norv to BB's? Just because those two knuckleheads leave LT out of the gameplan doesn't mean BB would. You are comparing fords to a ferrari.

 

[makewayhomer]

You are wrong on so many levels.

1) LT is in a category all by himself.

LT is very good, but way, way overrated. people dont give enough credit to their OLine.

look at how good Michael Turner has been in SD.

LT is far from being in a category all by himself

 

[ChoWZa]

And what is your point? Is it fair to compare Maroney's YPC running in an offense that has Tom Brady at QB to LT who has Phillip River at QB? How about Adrian Peterson with Tavares Jackson at QB? How about Larry Johnson with Brodie Croyle? You can't compare. It's just like comparing Manning's TD stats last year with Harrison and Wayne to Brady who had Caldwell and Gaffney. Apples to oranges. Bottom line, Maroney is a JAG right now. A JAG.

Last year the Chargers moved the ball well through the air.. your argument here is falling apart. I do agree Maroney is not doing much better than average. However that is a position they only need average at right now. (Hence 11-0). I do think they will take McFadden next year top 5 though.

Average is NOT the same as bad, or "DUD".

 

[PonyExpress]

Obviously the whole Taylor thing sucks. That is one thing.

But I am flabbergasted at just how many people are extrapolating the rest of the season based on one game when we have 10 other games that should be just a relevent as that one.

Somehow, now that NE didn't win by 20+ points Josh McDaniels sucks again, Maroney is garbage, the defense is a sieve and on and on.

Didn't NE just obliterate a Buffalo team that was also around .500 prior to the game? Didn't NE hold Indy to 20 points a few weeks ago? Haven't all other great teams played poorly against mediocre competition before? Didn't the same AJ Feeley that ripped NE's secondary do the exact same thing against the best team in NE's history with a far worse Miami team?

I'm all for critical analysis. Show me why WR X was able to come completely free and how it was really safety Y's job to watch for that route. Diagram how NE blitzed improperly prior to a 24 yard pass play. NE clearly played their worst game of the year.

But they still won. How in hell did we have any confidence in the 2003 and 2004 playoffs if we can't in this team? Shouldn't we have a little more perspective and let the next game happen before we decide that things were not just a bad day but harbringers of doom?

Sorry if this comes across as overly obnoxious, but I really am taken aback by the tone on Pats boards today.

Don't be sad, Oz. When a fan base expands rapidly some loonies with loose loyalties are bound to filter in. Small price to pay for the joy of watching this team perform. The Maroney situation will work itself out, and these people will be quieted. In the mean time, just laugh at the clowns and move on.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Last year the Chargers moved the ball well through the air.. your argument here is falling apart. I do agree Maroney is not doing much better than average. However that is a position they only need average at right now. (Hence 11-0). I do think they will take McFadden next year top 5 though.

Average is NOT the same as bad, or "DUD".

Ummm, it is when the guy is #21 pick in the entire draft. The guy is a JAG. That's all fine and dandy when you are a 4th rd pick, but not when you were a 1st rd pick. Hey, a Ford truck is a score for 12k. It's a rip-off for 40k. Maroney is a rip-off for the price we paid for him(a 1st rd pick!). I want my money back!!!!!!!

 

[PonyExpress]

Maroney is a DAM GOOD RB? Based on what? What does he do that is better than average? He is average in every facet of the position. Plus, he is a non-factor in the passing game. He stinks as a pass receiver. Stinks.

You clearly have an infatuation with Maroney. You can't go a sentence without mentioning him. It must be love.

 

[BradyManny]

Ummm, it is when the guy is #21 pick in the entire draft. The guy is a JAG. That's all fine and dandy when you are a 4th rd pick, but not when you were a 1st rd pick. Hey, a Ford truck is a score for 12k. It's a rip-off for 40k. Maroney is a rip-off for the price we paid for him(a 1st rd pick!). I want my money back!!!!!!!

What do you want from Maroney? This is a passing offense. Faulk is the better option when it comes to passing, so obviously Maroney shouldn't be in there. When he's run the ball, he's run it above averagely...so I don't really get what the Maroney-nay-sayers want...

 

[DaBruinz]

Maroney is a DAM GOOD RB? Based on what? What does he do that is better than average? He is average in every facet of the position. Plus, he is a non-factor in the passing game. He stinks as a pass receiver. Stinks.

Based on what he's done. I know that you spew your dumbness all around and ignore facts, that doesn't mean the rest of us do.

1) Maroney has a 4.4 YPC
2) He scored another TD last night in the RED ZONE of all places. A place they usually go to Heath Evans on.
3) Maroney doesn't STINK as a pass receiver. He's just not ever been used there much.

Maroney isn't a NON-Factor in the Passing game because he does sell the play-action very well.

NSA, about the only thing you've shown that you might be able to advise is a group of Grandmothers trying to cross the road... and I doubt they'd listen to you.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Based on what he's done. I know that you spew your dumbness all around and ignore facts, that doesn't mean the rest of us do.

1) Maroney has a 4.4 YPC
2) He scored another TD last night in the RED ZONE of all places. A place they usually go to Heath Evans on.
3) Maroney doesn't STINK as a pass receiver. He's just not ever been used there much.

Maroney isn't a NON-Factor in the Passing game because he does sell the play-action very well.

NSA, about the only thing you've shown that you might be able to advise is a group of Grandmothers trying to cross the road... and I doubt they'd listen to you.

So there we have it. Maroney just isn't getting utilized enough to show his true capablities. Forget the fact that we have the greatest coach of all time who loves to win more than anything.

 

[Fixit]

Maroney doesn't suck because of last night. His whole career he has done NOTHING above average. I don't know about you, but I want the #21 drafted player in the 2006 NFL Draft on the field by game 11 of the 2007 season. If we ain't going to use the kid, than we should have never drafted him. We should have drafted a cornerback, linebacker, or somebody that can actually get on the field. Maroney is a DUD, which is why BB doesn't play him. If he was a STUD, you can bet your arse off that BB would have him in the gameplan. The LT's of the world aren't left out of gameplans.

San Diego's 6-5 and Complainian is averaging 4.0 a carry.

The Pats are 11-0 and Maroney's averaging 4.4.

Yeah, you know more than Belichick.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

San Diego's 6-5 and Complainian is averaging 4.0 a carry.

The Pats are 11-0 and Maroney's averaging 4.4.

Yeah, you know more than Belichick.

Huh?????????????????? So BB would rathey have Maroney than LT????? LOL!!!!!

 

[PonyExpress]

So there we have it. Maroney just isn't getting utilized enough to show his true capablities. Forget the fact that we have the greatest coach of all time who loves to win more than anything.

The team is 11-0 with the most prolific offense in history. Why are you so fixated on Maroney? He's run well when called upon and is only 22, there's plenty of time for improvement. Why not be patient and trust BB's judgement? What's your rush?

 

[makewayhomer]

What does he do that is better than average?

runs with the football, which is what running backs do.

his YPC is very solid.

it's not his fault he's playing in a offense whose passing attack cant be stopped

 

[Fixit]

Huh?????????????????? So BB would rathey have Maroney than LT????? LOL!!!!!

Oh, man, that's totally what I said!!!

 

[emoney_33]

Maroney doesn't suck because of last night. His whole career he has done NOTHING above average. I don't know about you, but I want the #21 drafted player in the 2006 NFL Draft on the field by game 11 of the 2007 season. If we ain't going to use the kid, than we should have never drafted him. We should have drafted a cornerback, linebacker, or somebody that can actually get on the field. Maroney is a DUD, which is why BB doesn't play him. If he was a STUD, you can bet your arse off that BB would have him in the gameplan. The LT's of the world aren't left out of gameplans.

You should probably be coaching the patriots, you clearly know more than BB. You ASSUME he isn't in the gameplan because BB doesn't have confidence in him, you don't KNOW that.

When we need to run, we run. When Maroney has had the chance and the line hasn't let 2 defenders in his face as he gets the ball, he has gotten positive results.

We have Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, Wes Welker, Ben Watson and Kevin Faulk. Name one RB that would get 20-30 carries on THIS BB-coached team unless the weather or opponents dictate it?

 

[Deus Irae]

This coming from the king donkey???

1st off, its not about being miserable. You just happen to purposely take what is said and blow it out of proportion in an poor attempt to make yourself look better

2ndly, when the team, offensively and defensively, has as many misses as the Pats did last night, they should feel lucky to get away with the win. Just because you want to ignore issues doesn't mean they aren't there.

It's sad to see how low just one game has brought you. Perhaps a nap and some hot cocoa would be helpful for you... Belichick is basically kicking the hell out of your arguments right now.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

You should probably be coaching the patriots, you clearly know more than BB. You ASSUME he isn't in the gameplan because BB doesn't have confidence in him, you don't KNOW that.

When we need to run, we run. When Maroney has had the chance and the line hasn't let 2 defenders in his face as he gets the ball, he has gotten positive results.

We have Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, Wes Welker, Ben Watson and Kevin Faulk. Name one RB that would get 20-30 carries on THIS BB-coached team unless the weather or opponents dictate it?

Ummm, what's your point? Last time I checked BB had Monty Beisel and Chad Brown running around and getting run over in our LB core a couple years ago. Last time I checked, BB went to war with Reche Caldwell as his #1 WR last year. Yes, my friends, BB makes mistakes. It happens. Drafting Laurence the DUD Maroney was one of those mistakes. You don't waste 1st rd picks on guys that make absolutely no IMPACT whatsoever. None. He is a JAG. A BUST. He STINKS.