If they offer 6/6, he's gone. I highly doubt he'll work for less than deon branch money.
He took his 3 mil + incentives one year contract mostly because he wanted to get out of oakland and play a year for a real team, and to prove that he's still the best when he's placed in a good situation.
Pats will be the front runners and he'll give them a discount. But he's not going to play for a 50 cent contract - since there's other good teams who will offer him lucrative contracts..If Marvin Harrison's injury + old age cripple's his ability to perform highly, I'd see Indy (other other teams) offering Moss 11+ million.
8-9 will be what it takes to get it done. 8-9 is a respectable amount, yet still millions less than what he gets on the open market.
I just hope terms are agreed to prior to free agency, and the contract is signed in the first minute
Adam Vinatieri has proven you can leave this team, get the money, and get the glory (he's got more super bowl rings than anyone on the Patriots now)...Its not always an either/or. If you want top dollar, then most likely you'll go to a non-elite team (since most team's aren't elite, and all team's are equally likely to offer the best contract at any given position). Adam V got lucky in that that team was the 2nd best franchise of this decade. Other players (Law, Mcginnest, Milloy, etc) have not been so luckly. But if you want only 90% of market value, then you're able to pick the team you want to play for.
Yeah, I can def. see your point here. For the sorta tongue-in-cheek joking in my first post in this thread, I actually came to those numbers after thinking about it for a sec, or maybe even two.
Vinatieri isn't a good comparison because he only made like $3 million to go to Indy, and he is tailing down. Bad leg, and his raw performance numbers were dropping, ie, not his "motivational factor" or whatever you'd want to call it. Adam doesn't, and never did, need any motivation. He really needed the cash. Kickers just don't make very much. The numbers between Randy and Adam don't really stack up well as far as trying to compare.
Brady himself is only making like $6 million/$7 million per year, and if there is one person on this team who Randy doesn't stack up to, it's Brady. For me, that's where the $6 million figure came into play. Also, for the first time, Randy is not the leader, and no matter what, he never will be here in New England, as long as Brady is around. I'm sure he likes it that way, as was pointed out in another post.
Randy has the opportunity to turn it around for good re. his behavior, reputation, etc., and make decent but not ridiculous money doing it. The second factor I sorta calculated in, seriously, is the endorsements. Can you honestly imagine an American Express ad during a Super Bowl say, like, 10 years from now w/ Brady tossing an amex card to Randy, or whatever? That is like $1 million each for a days work.
No kidding, the endorsements are where the real money is if...and that is a big if...they are long term winners. Brady already is, Randy isn't. I really do think that is something that sticks in Randy's ego. Not in a bad way, but as something to prove.
Third, I was really, really thinking of what history and posterity would mean to Randy vs. the maybe extra $2 to $3 million he'd make per year somewhere else. That is why I mentioned his ego. I do think his ego is a factor, and given his talent/skillz he has a certain right to think that way. He is one of the best of the best. No kidding, if this team keeps it together w/ players, is lucky enough w/ health/injuries...we could probably win 3 out of the next 6 Super Bowls. Hard? Yeah, def., but it is very feasible.
I think Randy--big ego and all--is starstruck at that type of idea. That is the lure. Beyond that, can you possibly imagine what it is like to go from someone who has worked so hard to be where his is, aka, Brady,
then going to a whiny b@$tard like Payton($$$), who feels as much like The Annointed One as Randy does, ie, super high level of natural talent???
For some reason, I think Randy has that innate football "Spidey Sense" that going to a place like Indy wouldn't work. Why? Because he has already gone to other places, ie, Oakland, for just the money. What was his base in Oakland, something like $9 million? Plus incentives? I don't know the specifics on the old contract he had, but I know he hated it. I think that Randy honestly wants a part of the long term Glory. He'll make his money w/ the endorsements if he sticks it out. A 6 year contract from the Pats??? haha...but, the end is all fiddly-diddly anyway, so....w/ all the other thoughts, I still think:
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