Pats draft Darren McFadden

[Phokus]

Look im a Maroney lover too.

vs. Miami 6 att 31 yards
vs. Redskins 14 att 75 yards
vc. Colts 15 att 59 yars

This year he has 89 carries for 417 yards. A very good to great 4.7 yards per rush.

Last year at this time. He had 107 attempts for 458 yards and 3 TD's. A 4.2 yard average.


So you can plainily see after two seasons he progressively better than last year even missing a few games.

Considering the passing game this year, it should be easy for him to have a high YPC... durability is a bigger concern

 

[ATippett56]

If Samuel does not re-sign with the Patriots, the cornerback position next year will be extremely thin. If Bruschi and Seau retire, the Patriots will also be woefully thin at the inside linebacker position.

 

[Mogamedogz]

Because it's doubtful we're wont to spend the money on a top-5 draft pick.

BINGO!! YOU GOT BINGO!!

No way we spend top 5 pick $$. We need the cash to rework deals for the guys we already have... Number 81 for instance.

 

[iapatsfan]

I understand!!! But under this scenario, we get the back while gaining an additional pick or picks for Maroney. We potentially upgrade the RB position while gaining ammo for building LB and DB. Denver's pick will probably be in the 18-20 range. They may be willing to part with that for Maroney, so we would get McFadden with SF's pick and a DB or LB with Denver's pick. Like I said, this is only a possibility if Denver likes Maroney as much as they said they did.

 

[SeauOUCH]

Actually I think you are on to something with Denver as a trading partner. If our pick ends up being top 3 or 4 I can see us trading our #1 to Denver for their #1 ( should be in the 10-15 range ) plus their #1 next year. I hope the Pats can trade down into that range ( contracts are more reasonable plus taking a LB or CB in the top 3 or 4 is REALLY a reach unless their was a Deon Sanders type CB in the draft, which their isnt )

Its kinda scary to think about giving Shanahan a back like McFadden though.

 

[danny88]

We do not need a running back, specifically one drafted high in the next draft. Most likely trade down, then draft at least one defensive player.

Good thing bb does not draft on need.

 

[danny88]

Look im a Maroney lover too.

vs. Miami 6 att 31 yards
vs. Redskins 14 att 75 yards
vc. Colts 15 att 59 yars

This year he has 89 carries for 417 yards. A very good to great 4.7 yards per rush.

Last year at this time. He had 107 attempts for 458 yards and 3 TD's. A 4.2 yard average.


So you can plainily see after two seasons he progressively better than last year even missing a few games.

When you where trying to sounds all smart did you take into account the rediculous new passing game we have this year? Thats why Maroney has a better ypc avg. Not to mention we switched to zone blocking.

Maroney is hurt far to much and has been a dissapointment to this point.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

I understand!!! But under this scenario, we get the back while gaining an additional pick or picks for Maroney. We potentially upgrade the RB position while gaining ammo for building LB and DB. Denver's pick will probably be in the 18-20 range. They may be willing to part with that for Maroney, so we would get McFadden with SF's pick and a DB or LB with Denver's pick. Like I said, this is only a possibility if Denver likes Maroney as much as they said they did.

The fact you have to consider is why would the FO do this?

Trade a known proven player who makes cheap money (Maroney) to a inner divisional contender for the chance to get a "potentially" better player with a higher salary and still a chance of a bust factor.

Does it help this team to trade Maroney for a poentially better version of him with more money?

The answer is no, his cost right now is dirt cheap and he is controlled for 3 more seasons at low money. The pick they have also gives them flexibility to trade down etc and draft in areas of need to stregthen different parts of this team.

Its a good idea in theory but beyond that its just an idea that wouldnt work out to well for the long term of this team.

 

[Nordy]

BINGO!! YOU GOT BINGO!!

No way we spend top 5 pick $$. We need the cash to rework deals for the guys we already have... Number 81 for instance.

This argument is so stupid. If there is a player there that BB and Pioli want, they will draft him and pay him his money.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

Everyone should know this by now, you never draft for need. I don't care what the Pats need, if the value isn't there, don't take him. If you draft based on need, then your team will end up with the top pick every year. Exihit A, the 9ers needed a QB and were forced to take Alex Smith. Look at their team now. How about the Texans and David Carr? How about the Titans and Pac Man Jones? Troy Williamson was a very high pick as well because the Vikings needed a WR. Reggie Williams and the Jaguars? We could on and on how other teams blew it because they drafted based on need when better players were available. Yes, the Pats need LB and DB but if the best available player isn't one of those listed above, you shouldn't be surprised if the Pats take a RB, LT, DE etc. Now, if Darren McFadden is the best available, he will be a Patriot unless Dallas gives an offer they can't refuse to trade out. To think that Maroney isn't going to pan out is a bad arguement right now. He is averaging 4.7 a carry yet he hardly gets the ball. The Pats offense is a pass heavy offense that features big time recievers. I'm sure if the roles were reversed you guys would ask if they made a mistake taking Addai over Maroney. I'm sure Maroney would have the same success in Indy that Addai is having.

 

[onegameatatime]

I see us trading down 4-5 spots each time the Pats number comes up, and we bank a few extra 2s and 3s. We use them to sign the next crop of Wilson and Samuel types, and pick uf a LB in free agency.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

When you where trying to sounds all smart did you take into account the rediculous new passing game we have this year? Thats why Maroney has a better ypc avg. Not to mention we switched to zone blocking.

Maroney is hurt far to much and has been a dissapointment to this point.

Your right, since we have a better passing game we should just throw all Maroney's statistics out the window. Why not throw Sammy's stats out there too since we shouldnt count the stats that this new passing game has developed.

Its part of having a balanced attack. Teams that dont know what your doing stay honest. So technically i can prove to you that since teams knew we were going to run last year maroney had a pretty damn good year last season since he had to run into 8 man fronts.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

I see us trading down 4-5 spots each time the Pats number comes up, and we bank a few extra 2s and 3s. We use them to sign the next crop of Wilson and Samuel types, and pick uf a LB in free agency.

No ones going to give that much up.

If they do expect that GM to be fired. It just doesnt happen anymore. The salary that these top 10 picks command is to much for teams to throw multiple picks at.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

I'm sure if the roles were reversed you guys would ask if they made a mistake taking Addai over Maroney. I'm sure Maroney would have the same success in Indy that Addai is having.

Good point. Addai has seen plenty of more playing time than Maroney and has been thrown into the fire from day 1.

 

[danny88]

Good point. Addai has seen plenty of more playing time than Maroney and has been thrown into the fire from day 1.

The pats have a better O then indy this year. Maroney should be running wild.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

The pats have a better O then indy this year. Maroney should be running wild.

Show me when they give any running back the carries. Maroney gets most of the carries and he he still has never had 20 att. yet.

Besides your saying we should apply the Colts offense to ours just because we have a better one now? That makes no sense.

 

[iapatsfan]

Once again, I am not putting Maroney down. I just think, and I think most people agree, McFadden is a very special player. If we can draft him, pending a trade of Maroney to Denver, the Pats will jump all over it.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Once again, I am not putting Maroney down. I just think, and I think most people agree, McFadden is a very special player. If we can draft him, pending a trade of Maroney to Denver, the Pats will jump all over it.

Did you not read my post before?

The fact you have to consider is why would the FO do this?

Trade a known proven player who makes cheap money (Maroney) to a inner divisional contender for the chance to get a "potentially" better player with a higher salary and still a chance of a bust factor.

Does it help this team to trade Maroney for a poentially better version of him with more money?

The answer is no, his cost right now is dirt cheap and he is controlled for 3 more seasons at low money. The pick they have also gives them flexibility to trade down etc and draft in areas of need to stregthen different parts of this team.

Its a good idea in theory but beyond that its just an idea that wouldnt work out to well for the long term of this team.

 

[iapatsfan]

Let me make it simple; McFadden and a 1st or 2nd round pick (which could be used for LB or DB) for Maroney. This is a NO-BRAINER!

 

[iapatsfan]

I do not give any credence to the "Maroney's cheaper" argument. With the way the salary cap is projected to expand, this is a non-issue.