Amusing Possible Outcome for the Colts

[ATippett56]

He needs to be brought out into the light and exposed for the damned psychopathic megalomaniac that he is.

Add Bill Polian to the list, as well.

 

[He Ban Me]

If you all would like to think that the crowd will be as electric for the Chiefs, fine. But this past weekend was only the most watched and hyped game in 12+ years. In addition, it came on the heels of an electric AFFCG against the same opponent. I'm sure our fans will be "loud and proud", but I do not expect it to be anywhere near as electric as any Pats encounter. Again, I attended the game last January, it was quite loud, but hardly "enhanced". Maybe if you guys would cheer with some heart, you could make as much noise as us silly old hick midwesterners! FWIW, Market Square was louder back in the 90's when the Pacers took two from the Bulls labor day weekend. Loudest crowd since being in the balcony at IU in 1982 for #2 UK versus #5 IU, awesome

 

[Dr Pain]

~ I do not expect it to be anywhere near as electric as any Pats encounter ~

I think you sumed it up well here

 

[ATippett56]

If you all would like to think that the crowd will be as electric for the Chiefs, fine. But this past weekend was only the most watched and hyped game in 12+ years. In addition, it came on the heels of an electric AFFCG against the same opponent. I'm sure our fans will be "loud and proud", but I do not expect it to be anywhere near as electric as any Pats encounter. Again, I attended the game last January, it was quite loud, but hardly "enhanced". Maybe if you guys would cheer with some heart, you could make as much noise as us silly old hick midwesterners! FWIW, Market Square was louder back in the 90's when the Pacers took two from the Bulls labor day weekend. Loudest crowd since being in the balcony at IU in 1982 for #2 UK versus #5 IU, awesome

Unfortunately science has you trumped:

http://coloyan.com/society/s110407.html

"I'm a live audio engineer. This was NOT a broadcast thing. This is my perception of what happened. I posted this on the Pat's group on Usenet. This is a cut and paste.

The Colts have microphones placed in locations around the stadium. They are probably somewhere in the domed ceiling. They would be directional shotgun mics and aimed at the crowd. They would be best aimed at the top half of the seating so as not to pick up any field noise. When the opposing team is on offense and before the play starts when the QB is calling signals, the house, (Colt's), engineer turns up these mics and feeds them through the stadium's sound system. This is much better than pre-recorded crowd noise because it is a perfect audible match to the environment and there are no recordings of crowd noise to get busted with.

What happened tonight was the engineer turned up the mics too much. This caused the mics to pick up the sound eminating from the stadiums sound system, (the amplified crowd noise), as well as the natural crowd noise. The result is a feedback loop. As this loop continues to cycle through the mics and speakers oscillation occurs. This was described as the skipping sound. At this point the feedback is full bandwidth. This means that all of the frequencies being reproduced by the system were present in the loop. If you listen carefully to the recording you will hear a midrange frequency starting to become predominant. It sounded like something between 600hz and 800hz was starting to take off. At this point the engineer became aware of his error and shut off the mics. That was the abrupt drop in volume that is also on the recording on the PFT site.

If this was an accident with one of the ref's mics, field noise would have been pumped through the system such as player's voices. So I don't think that this a possibility anymore.

I'm practically positive that the Colts were up to no good. Any audio engineer with a half of brain will recognize that sound. That includes the multitude of engineers on NFL payroll. I doubt anything will come of it. It would be a massive scandal for the league's pretty boy team and a member of the CC. We'll see what Goodell is made of now. He'd have to have the stadium physically inspected and chances are that the mics are removed after any games. What is good is that Goodell and others will now be listening more intently and this may be enough to make Polian back off and stop using them. IMO the Colts are cheaters."

 

[JoeSixPat]

If others step forward to corroborate, this will be big because CBS will have been caught covering it up.

Personally this type of "gamesmanship" doesn't truly bother me - Red Auerbach did the same type of things in the Garden

But seeing as everyone in the NFL wants to be holier than thou and righteous about "not stealing signals" when the league actually condones it - I'll enjoy watching Bill "Break his legs" Polian squirm

 

[Patriot Power]

Unfortunately science has you trumped:

http://coloyan.com/society/s110407.html

"I'm a live audio engineer. This was NOT a broadcast thing. This is my perception of what happened. I posted this on the Pat's group on Usenet. This is a cut and paste.

The Colts have microphones placed in locations around the stadium. They are probably somewhere in the domed ceiling. They would be directional shotgun mics and aimed at the crowd. They would be best aimed at the top half of the seating so as not to pick up any field noise. When the opposing team is on offense and before the play starts when the QB is calling signals, the house, (Colt's), engineer turns up these mics and feeds them through the stadium's sound system. This is much better than pre-recorded crowd noise because it is a perfect audible match to the environment and there are no recordings of crowd noise to get busted with.

What happened tonight was the engineer turned up the mics too much. This caused the mics to pick up the sound eminating from the stadiums sound system, (the amplified crowd noise), as well as the natural crowd noise. The result is a feedback loop. As this loop continues to cycle through the mics and speakers oscillation occurs. This was described as the skipping sound. At this point the feedback is full bandwidth. This means that all of the frequencies being reproduced by the system were present in the loop. If you listen carefully to the recording you will hear a midrange frequency starting to become predominant. It sounded like something between 600hz and 800hz was starting to take off. At this point the engineer became aware of his error and shut off the mics. That was the abrupt drop in volume that is also on the recording on the PFT site.

If this was an accident with one of the ref's mics, field noise would have been pumped through the system such as player's voices. So I don't think that this a possibility anymore.

I'm practically positive that the Colts were up to no good. Any audio engineer with a half of brain will recognize that sound. That includes the multitude of engineers on NFL payroll. I doubt anything will come of it. It would be a massive scandal for the league's pretty boy team and a member of the CC. We'll see what Goodell is made of now. He'd have to have the stadium physically inspected and chances are that the mics are removed after any games. What is good is that Goodell and others will now be listening more intently and this may be enough to make Polian back off and stop using them. IMO the Colts are cheaters."

The problem with that theory is that sound would have then been picked up not only by CBS, but by the other outlets broadcasting the game... being that the sound did NOT appear on the WBCN or Westwood One radio broadcasts of that game (which both use a crowd/FX mic mixed with their announcer feed) and only appeared on the CBS telecast, this theory can't be true.

Also, a feedback loop of that sort could just as easily occur in the CBS truck... if a recording/playback device that was actively recording the game was accidently potted up on that board, a similar feedback loop could occur.

The CBS sound has been debunked... but that does not mean they don't pump sound in that dome.