Dale Arnold: NFL looking into crowd noise issue

[Maroney TD]

I don't care who's fault it is, I just want the Colts to lose a 1st rounder. Not going to happen though.

 

[BradyManny]

There ARE no tapes. All they'd need to do is take the crowd noise, amplify it and play it thru the stadium speakers.

I'm not sure that's how they'd do it. To me, that would give a weird phase effect and basically the whole building would have an echo.

I'm pretty sure if they were to pipe in noise, they'd go with just pouring some extra ambient crowd noise into the speakers consistently when the opposing team was on offense. And to me, that skipping noise sounded just like that, a loop skipping. Again, it could very well be CBS' problem. CBS has to come out and say.

EDIT: Nope, I'm wrong. See the post by a poster named Frezo in the other thread on the crowd noise.

 

[Maroney TD]

Ya, ask a guy that you don't know who he is and that wasn't there to give the final expert opinion on it.

Yeah theres no way a sound expert would know anything about the effects from sound equipment.

Indy has been accused of this for years. The crowd noise skipped, that happens all the time at games right?

 

[shmessy]

Even "IF" the NFL determined the Colts violated rules by pumping in artificial crowd noise, it would not and should not reflect on Dungy at all. Polian is the only person that would and should be blamed. The buck stops with him.

Let's not try to put this on Dungy. I highly doubt he would even be told about it. I'm sure he'd have a clue, but it still would not be his decision or responsibility.

Saint Dungy stood in that Dome last January feeling the 85 degree heat and kept his "moral" mouth shut.

He's a phoney. But a nice man.

 

[workhorse]

Why is it that nobody that was at the game (players, Patriots fans, New England area media, or national media) is talking about this? The only people talking about it are the ones that watched it on TV.

 

[Rob0729]

Although I think if there wasn't physical evidence this would be swept under the rug, I don't know how the league will be able to sweep this under the rug if this audio irregularity appears on the every version of recorded broadcast available to the public. If it is on the radio broadcast, NFL Films tapes, video from the Patriots' crew, etc., I cannot see any possible way the league can sweep it under the rug.

Many in the media hate Polian as much as we all do. Maybe more since they have to deal with them. Of course the Boston media will not let this die if there is clearly evidence of wrongdoing. There will be enough media pressure if this audio thing appears elsewhere to force the league to act.

You don't think Mike Florio and many of the local media aren't trying to get the radio broadcast or asking the Pats for copies of their tapes? If it is caught on the Pats' tapes, you don't think the Pats wouldn't willingly give someone like Mike Reiss a copy?

 

[Grogan's neck roll]

Why is it that nobody that was at the game (players, Patriots fans, New England area media, or national media) is talking about this? The only people talking about it are the ones that watched it on TV.

If I were a Colts fan I'd be concerned that Aiello is talking about this!

 

[Rob0729]

Dale Arnold just said that he spoke with Peter King and Peter King is investigating this now too. The national media is going to start to pick up this story.

 

[livinginthe past]

I don't know.

As much as i'd love this to be true, the actual sound would surely have been loud enough to solicit some type of reaction from the players on the field.

My money is some type of problem with the broadcast - the fact that Aiello has gone public with the 'investigation' is just more PR at attempting to portray the NFL as incorruptable.

 

[Patsguy05]

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d803e858a

go to this video of Tom Brady Highlights. Go to the 15 minute mark of the 4th quarter. Play it from there. When you get to about the 14:55 mark you will notice a very noticable skip in the crowd noise.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Why is it that nobody that was at the game (players, Patriots fans, New England area media, or national media) is talking about this? The only people talking about it are the ones that watched it on TV.

That's a valid point. However, it could be that those in the crowd were so overwhelmed by the real noise of those around them that they were unable to hear it.

I think that is a viable explanation.

 

[upstater1]

Even "IF" the NFL determined the Colts violated rules by pumping in artificial crowd noise, it would not and should not reflect on Dungy at all. Polian is the only person that would and should be blamed. The buck stops with him.

Let's not try to put this on Dungy. I highly doubt he would even be told about it. I'm sure he'd have a clue, but it still would not be his decision or responsibility.

Huh? He knows they pipe in noise and uses it to his advantage. If Pioli were using the same means at Gillette, you think Belichick wouldn't get blamed for it? Please.

 

[BrianPat]

Listen, I could easily be something with CBS's equipment.

But if it's not, then it'll have to be explained

I think if it shows up on other audio recordings, which it will if it was piped in, then any sound engineer will be able to isolate it.

Once it's isolated from multiple sources, then that's all the proof that is needed. The building didn't cause it, so the only other cause, would be amped crowd noise, case closed.

 

[ELOrocks17]

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d803e858a

go to this video of Tom Brady Highlights. Go to the 15 minute mark of the 4th quarter. Play it from there. When you get to about the 14:55 mark you will notice a very noticable skip in the crowd noise.

I heard it. It sounds like the audio got stuck in a feedback loop.

 

[RobAllan]

They just asked Richard Seymour and he didn't notice anything. He said he just noticed "it was loud."

 

[BradyManny]

Listen, I could easily be something with CBS's equipment.

But if it's not, then it'll have to be explained

I think if it shows up on other audio recordings, which it will if it was piped in, then any sound engineer will be able to isolate it.

Once it's isolated from multiple sources, then that's all the proof that is needed. The building didn't cause it, so the only other cause, would be amped crowd noise, case closed.

Whether it was heard on other recordings is not necessarily indicative of whether or not they were piping in audio, as a poster (Frezo) points out in another thread. As others have pointed out, it seems the radio stations and CBS do not share the same crowd noise feed.

 

[PatriotsReign]

Saint Dungy stood in that Dome last January feeling the 85 degree heat and kept his "moral" mouth shut.

He's a phoney. But a nice man.

I know what your saying & I don't care for Dungy either. I'm just saying this is more of a front office issue. I don't think any NFL coach would publically question their front office on stadium temperature or crowd noise.

 

[Slagathor]

Indianapolis Milli Vanilli's

I like it.

 

[ELOrocks17]

I am re-watching it right now, anyone else who has T-vo'd it....go to 14:00 in the 4th..Manning gets sacked...and the crowed erupts in cheers (?)

Again...at 4:49 in the 4th...Manning gets sacked and the crowd cheers. Seems kinda odd doesn't it?

 

[PlattsFan]

I'm only sorta an audio expert; I've done audio on quite a few live TV events, some ESPN events, but not a football game (which are some of the largest productions).

To me, you can't tell from that sound where in the process the problem got introduced. It's *not* obviously from a CD, in fact I don't think it sounds like a CD at all. It's definitely digital, but I've heard a similar sound from digital processers that get hung up. You need to reset it. It could be from someone in the RCA Dome, or it could be from the audio booth of CBS. And, if it was from CBS, a good portion of the crowd noise would go through that processer, so it would get quieter right after that as the processor got reset.

I'm not saying it's CBS or not, but you can't tell from what you hear on that clip. Personally, I'd bet on it being from CBS. It's the more likely situation.

I do seriously hope it's from the Colts, though. That would make an already fantastic season into the greatest stretch of entertainment in sports history.