Eric Wilbur

[baba booey]

This is also great

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/wilbur/sports_blog/blog/2007/11/01/four_score_and_several_more/

 

[Patriots Nation NY]

Great stuff right there...

 

[Absurdly Metro]

It’s the 8-0 Patriots against the 7-0 Colts, or “Good vs. Evil” as both ESPN and Fox have touted the past week in identical headlines.

Such a tired double standard exists when it comes to the Colts and Patriots. When it is the Patriots and Tom Brady that threaten the record-performances put up by Manning and the Colts in the past, folks start to get nervous. The love-fest that exists for Madison Ave.’s favorite son extends to his coach Tony Dungy, a nice, congenial man who takes the time out every Sunday morning to bake for the team on the opposite sideline. Or so, we should think.

LOL!! So true! Testify brother Wilbur, test-i-fy!!!!

After beating the Texans, 41-9 on Nov. 14 three years ago, ESPN’s Eric Allen addressed the issue as to whether or not Manning should have been pulled in the fourth quarter. “I don't think they should have for two reasons. One, right now Manning is extremely hot and has the opportunity to break a few very hard to reach records. It's nice to see a guy in the zone that much still on the field making it happen for his team.”

That was then. That was Manning. When it comes to Brady and the Patriots, the story completely changes. For the Colts, it’s history, and special. For the Patriots, it’s smug and disrespectful.

Hey Colts fans--this is EXACTLY what we're always talking about. The obvious double standard. It's okay though... keep pretending it doesn't exist cause it's just fuel to the fire--or as one poster likes to say--tacklin' fuel!

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

Thanks for the link.

 

[Fixit]

Very fun read.

 

[Krugman]

Thats a good read,thanks.

 

[ALP]

one of the best articles i have read in a long time...guy actuallly knows how to write as well, with real evidence...very nice job

 

[BadMoFo]

I was looking at that Texans game, that's the only one where Manning stayed in the whole game. Up 42-7 in the fourth against the Texans, Manning passes on 6 of 10 plays. After that, they sat him in the fourth in their next three blowouts.

 

[FreakGoDeep]

great article thats filled with facts. So rare in todays media.

You go Eric WIlbur.

 

[baba booey]

Bob Kravitz from Indystar responds to Eric Wilbur:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071102/SPORTS03/711020428

 

[The Boston Patriot]

What pisses me off is crap like this from the mediots:

"The NFL's premier rivalry for five years running, with these success-soaked
franchises combining for four of the past six Super Bowl titles."

THe freakin' Dolts have won one! ONE! The Pats have won THREE! Don't
include the under-achieving grain-heads in with our boys. They haven't
even come close. Sheeesshhhh....

 

[paragon11]

What pisses me off is crap like this from the mediots:

"The NFL's premier rivalry for five years running, with these success-soaked
franchises combining for four of the past six Super Bowl titles."

THe freakin' Dolts have won one! ONE! The Pats have won THREE! Don't
include the under-achieving grain-heads in with our boys. They haven't
even come close. Sheeesshhhh....

I don't see anything wrong with it, because it's the truth.

Terry

 

[Arrrr]

LOL!! So true! Testify brother Wilbur, test-i-fy!!!!



Hey Colts fans--this is EXACTLY what we're always talking about. The obvious double standard. It's okay though... keep pretending it doesn't exist cause it's just fuel to the fire--or as one poster likes to say--tacklin' fuel!

I really don't care if the Patriots run up the score or whatever. If they do it Sunday against the colts i would be angrier at the defense and defensive coordinator than anyone else.

 

[bradmahn]

Bob Kravitz from Indystar responds to Eric Wilbur:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071102/SPORTS03/711020428

To which I say, is it only piling it on if it occurs with ten minutes left in the game (for Manning at least)?

Beyond that, he does have a point. You cannot simply look at scores and deem someone as having "run it up."

At the same time just because Manning didn't throw a TD pass does not mean that he is absolved of any accusations of attempting to "run it up." BadMoFo touched on this in his post, but in the Texans game, with a 35 point lead and twelve minutes left in the game, Manning came onto the field. A good, decent QB and coach (as the media and Kravitz would lead you to believe) would strictly run the ball in this situation to kill the clock (but, folks, you can't kill the clock by throwing it). What did Manning do? Threw four straight times (three of which coming on first down) before being intercepted.

Just because he was unsuccessful in his attempt does not make him any better than Brady.

 

[FreakGoDeep]

To which I say, is it only piling it on if it occurs with ten minutes left in the game (for Manning at least)?

Beyond that, he does have a point. You cannot simply look at scores and deem someone as having "run it up."

At the same time just because Manning didn't throw a TD pass does not mean that he is absolved of any accusations of attempting to "run it up." BadMoFo touched on this in his post, but in the Texans game, with a 35 point lead and twelve minutes left in the game, Manning came onto the field. A good, decent QB and coach (as the media and Kravitz would lead you to believe) would strictly run the ball in this situation to kill the clock (but, folks, you can't kill the clock by throwing it). What did Manning do? Threw four straight times (three of which coming on first down) before being intercepted.

Just because he was unsuccessful in his attempt does not make him any better than Brady.

Kravitz is wrong. He said the pats had a 17 point lead 5 times...sorry bob, it's only been 3 times. This redskins game, the dolphins fiasco and the bills game.
and 2 other 4th quarter TDs came with drives starting in the 3rd.

Brady started his last skins drive in the 3rd and it went into the mid 4th. Manning had a 4th qtr TD with 13 left in the 4th....yea, and the drive started in the last minute of the 3rd. Manning ran the hurry up offense and scored....brady ran a 9 minute drive to kill time.

"The Colts beat Houston 49-14. Manning threw five TD passes, none in the fourth quarter."
Mannign played the whole game. 2 4th qtr drives with passing (most incomplete)

Don't give manning credit becasue he couldn't score late in the game when he was trying.


o facts...they can spoils a prefectly good article.

 

[The Boston Patriot]

I don't see anything wrong with it, because it's the truth.

Terry

Then how do you explain the description of "success-soaked" being applied to
the Colts? They have achieved one SB. Is that your interpretation of
"success-soaked"? Not mine, but yours obviously does.

 

[sieglo]

Following the 51-24 win over Tennessee, the Indy Star's Bob Kravitz wrote, "At this point, we're not just watching football anymore. We're watching history. Every week, the Indianapolis Colts' offense uses the football field as its canvas, and every week, it creates an art form that is distinct from everything else in the copycat NFL."

Flash forward almost three years, and the very same Kravitz wrote about the juggernaut New England Patriots, "In the last three weeks, New England has scored 48, 49, and 52 points, inspiring inquiring minds to wonder, 'Did the Patriots pile on?' And every week, the obvious answer is, 'Duh.'"

Kravitz = pwned.