Brady closing in on Manning's statistics...

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

It is incredible how much ground Brady has made up in a single season, and now is threatening to catch Manning in lots of categories that at one time seemed impossible. Despite Manning playing in a dome, and always having all-pro talent around him, Brady's statistics are remarkably close. If the Patriots re-sign Moss, I would expect Tom to pass Peyton in many categories within one year, if his numbers continue at the same pace, it will be less than one year.


Career Statistics

QB Rating
Manning- 94.7
Brady- 92.2 (was under 89 to begin season)

Completion Percentage
Manning- 64.2%
Brady- 62.9% (was under 61 to begin season)

Yards per attempt
Manning- 7.7
Brady- 7.2 (was 6.8 to begin season)

TD/INT ratio
Brady- 2.21 (has passed Manning this season)
Manning- 2.01

Attempt/TD
Manning- 17.8
Brady- 18.8 (this category was once a landslide victory for Manning)

Attempt/INT
Brady- 41.6 (I believe this is the best ever)
Manning- 35.9

lol... for years Colts fans have cited these stats as the reason why Manning is leaps and bounds better than Brady... what will happen in six months if Brady passes Manning in all of them, breaks every single season record, and wins his fourth Super Bowl, despite the Colts having a better ranked defense?

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

Interesting. I have to admit, I always assumed that Manning was way ahead in the "gaudy" stats department. Thanks for posting it

 

[letekro]

for years Colts fans have cited these stats as the reason why Manning is leaps and bounds better than Brady... what will happen in six months if Brady passes Manning in all of them, breaks every single season record, and wins his fourth Super Bowl, despite the Colts having a better ranked defense?

This is the dirty little secret of the Manning-Brady debate - Manning has been a starter in the league for two more years than Brady. Manning in his 8th year of development MAY have been ahead of Tom in his 6th, but Tom in his 7th year is way ahead of Peyton in his 7th year (I think the year they got beat by the Steelers).

 

[indyfan1985]

Brady will never touch Manning's all time great statistics. Brady did this for ONE year, while manning has been putting outstanding stats up for many years.

 

[godef]

This is the dirty little secret of the Manning-Brady debate - Manning has been a starter in the league for two more years than Brady. Manning in his 8th year of development MAY have been ahead of Tom in his 6th, but Tom in his 7th year is way ahead of Peyton in his 7th year (I think the year they got beat by the Steelers).

But these are not accumulative numbers, they are averages. Brady's numbers would potentially change faster since they're based on fewer years. But still, that they have changed so much in half a year is a reflection of how gaudy Tom's numbers have been this season.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

Brady will never touch Manning's all time great statistics. Brady did this for ONE year, while manning has been putting outstanding stats up for many years.

Which stats are those???? I think that was the point of the thread. Brady's all-time stats DO touch Manning's. In fact, in the GREATEST QB stat ever (which wasn't even listed btw), Superbowl Rings, Brady leads 3-1.

Are there other stats not listed that you are referring to. Honestly curious too, not being a jerk. If you are refering to Career stats (like total yds, total tds, ect.)..... you really can't do that yet, cuz they are both in the middle of their careers. That's for when they are said and done.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Brady will never touch Manning's all time great statistics. Brady did this for ONE year, while manning has been putting outstanding stats up for many years.

lol...that is too funny! Way to brush off the thread that suggests the opposite. There is a reason why Manning has done it for many years.

Harrison
Wayne
Clark
Faulk
Addai


All first round draft picks, playing in a climate controlled dome.


Brady has almost caught him already, with only a half year to work with comparable talent.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Not to reign on the parade(I do think Brady is better than Manning, just never had the weapons) but, Peyton is still miles away in yards 39,418/ 23,995 and TD's 288/177 in just two more seasons. That isss a difference of 15,423/ 111 respectively. I do however think that if Moss and co stay around, Brady can catch up and eventually pull ahead.

Yes, but it is actually three years, and these are quantitative stats, while I posted qualitative stats, which balances out numbers due to an uneven amount of passing attempts.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

Not to reign on the parade(I do think Brady is better than Manning, just never had the weapons) but, Peyton is still miles away in yards 39,418/ 23,995 and TD's 288/177 in just two more seasons. That isss a difference of 15,423/ 111 respectively. I do however think that if Moss and co stay around, Brady can catch up and eventually pull ahead.

Precisely, that's why it's unfair to compare those stats now. You can compare passer rating and "in progress stats" but totals are kinda unfair. Let's say Peyton retires this year to pursue a career in commercials , and Tom goes on to score 400 more TD's and 40,000 more yds in the next 10 years :rocker: .

See, some stats are for later, some for now.

 

[letekro]

But these are not accumulative numbers, they are averages. Brady's numbers would potentially change faster since they're based on fewer years. But still, that they have changed so much in half a year is a reflection of how gaudy Tom's numbers have been this season.

You completely missed the point.

Let me try again:

Manning has had two more years of in-his-prime stats to improve both his quantitative AND qualitative numbers. A fair qualitative analysis would compare Brady's career qualitative numbers in 2009 to Peyton's qualitative numbers today (each having 9 years as starters).

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Yes I follow you on all that, I was simply just pointing out that Brady will slowly close the gaps. Presumably he will have a year or 2 after Manning retires, in which to finalize his mark as well.

I do agree with you in the sense that Brady won't set records for career TD passes or career passing yards, but Manning probably will.

 

[solman]

Manning's stats are badly inflated by the fact that he plays most of his games in a dome.

Even before he good receivers, Brady had better indoor statistics than Manning, and better outdoor statistics than Manning.

Both players improve their QB ratings by over 16 points when playing inside of a dome.

But Manning plays nearly 60% of his games with this advantage while Brady plays fewer than 15% of his games indoors. This gives him a 7-8 point passer rating bonus.

Now that Brady has decent receivers, its obvious that Manning isn't even in his class.

Without the bonus that Manning gets for playing indoors, he's roughly as good as Jeff Garcia.