Question for Redskins fans

[The Gr8est]

This has nothing to do with this week's games, but since a lot of Skins fans are visiting this week it is a good time to ask this.

The year after Bill Polian got his new emphasis on pass interference into the rules, there were a lot of instances when teams would throw up a pass with less hopes of completion than of getting a large gain due to a gift interference call.

I remember one game in particular that I know involved the Cowboys and Terry Glenn, and I believe the opponent was the Redskins and that it was a Monday night game. I don't remember the particulars except that there were two egregious calls that both went against the same team one on offense and one on defense that were a striking example of the referees essentially handing the game to one of the teams over these bogus calls.

So do any of you Redskins fans remember the game and could you remind me of the details?

 

[DCSkinsFan]

Yeah that was the Monday Night Miracle...

We won anyway. 2 bombs to Moss in under 2 mins.

I really don't think the refs are bogus. It's a tough job. I really want to believe they have more integrity than those in the NBA.

 

[loosebearing]

Yeah that was the Monday Night Miracle...

We won anyway. 2 bombs to Moss in under 2 mins.

I really don't think the refs are bogus. It's a tough job. I really want to believe they have more integrity than those in the NBA.

What Gr8est was pointing out is that if you use the competition committee to make rules and establish point of emphasis rules then isn't that a far worse crime. (ie cheating)

The whole idea of the salary cap was to knock down the dynasties of Dallas and San Francisco.

The competition committee isn't fair competition - its keep one or two teams from being better. (As in it's motto is Leave no Team behind)

 

[DCSkinsFan]

What Gr8est was pointing out is that if you use the competition committee to make rules and establish point of emphasis rules then isn't that a far worse crime. (ie cheating)

The whole idea of the salary cap was to knock down the dynasties of Dallas and San Francisco.

The competition committee isn't fair competition - its keep one or two teams from being better. (As in it's motto is Leave no Team behind)

Missed his point. Thanks for clarifying. Yes, in my opinion it is a far worse crime.

 

[Skins72]

This has nothing to do with this week's games, but since a lot of Skins fans are visiting this week it is a good time to ask this.

The year after Bill Polian got his new emphasis on pass interference into the rules, there were a lot of instances when teams would throw up a pass with less hopes of completion than of getting a large gain due to a gift interference call.

I remember one game in particular that I know involved the Cowboys and Terry Glenn, and I believe the opponent was the Redskins and that it was a Monday night game. I don't remember the particulars except that there were two egregious calls that both went against the same team one on offense and one on defense that were a striking example of the referees essentially handing the game to one of the teams over these bogus calls.

So do any of you Redskins fans remember the game and could you remind me of the details?

Yea, the Refs tried to hand Dallas the game. We just got super lucky with Brunell to moss for two 50+ yard scores in like 3 minutes.

 

[Oswlek]

Yea, the Refs tried to hand Dallas the game. We just got super lucky with Brunell to moss for two 50+ yard scores in like 3 minutes.

I :enranged: :violent: that game. I had a 20+ point lead in a fantasy league and the only guy going for the other team was Moss. I went to bed in the middle of the 3rd quarter thinking I had locked it up and literally thought there was an error on yahoo when I first saw the standings the next day. :bricks:

 

[Skins72]

I :enranged: :violent: that game. I had a 20+ point lead in a fantasy league and the only guy going for the other team was Moss. I went to bed in the middle of the 3rd quarter thinking I had locked it up and literally thought there was an error on yahoo when I first saw the standings the next day. :bricks:

Haha... Yea that has to be one of the best victories ever for us.

 

[Double G]

There you go then, something to hang your war bonnet on, a thrilling victory that amounted to jack squat in the grand scheme of things.

But hey, it made you happy for 12 seconds, so good for you.

 

[blriesenbeck07]

There you go then, something to hang your war bonnet on, a thrilling victory that amounted to jack squat in the grand scheme of things.

But hey, it made you happy for 12 seconds, so good for you.

That win helped us get to the playoffs that year.

 

[xmarkd400x]

There you go then, something to hang your war bonnet on, a thrilling victory that amounted to jack squat in the grand scheme of things.

But hey, it made you happy for 12 seconds, so good for you.

I sense some baggage. No reason to be mean in a casual conversation.

 

[TerpSkins]

It wasn't the miracle game. I believe it was the game from previous year where we ended up losing the game. The 1st call was where Glenn clearly pushed off our CB and caught the ball. The 2nd was when Gardner went up for the ball in the end zone, and Newman held his arm and there was no call. Those 2 calls went against us and was a 14 point turnaround.

Refs also missed a call late to end that game where Gardner caught a deep ball and he was down by contact (his knee was on the ground and was touched by a Cowboy), then Roy Williams hit him helmet to helmet. If that call is made, we kick the FG and go into OT.

 

[CoachJoe]

It wasn't the miracle game. I believe it was the game from previous year where we ended up losing the game. The 1st call was where Glenn clearly pushed off our CB and caught the ball. The 2nd was when Gardner went up for the ball in the end zone, and Newman held his arm and there was no call. Those 2 calls went against us and was a 14 point turnaround.

Refs also missed a call late to end that game where Gardner caught a deep ball and he was down by contact (his knee was on the ground and was touched by a Cowboy), then Roy Williams hit him helmet to helmet. If that call is made, we kick the FG and go into OT.

Yeah -- I believe that is correct, it was the Monday night game in DC the year before.

 

[The Gr8est]

It wasn't the miracle game. I believe it was the game from previous year where we ended up losing the game. The 1st call was where Glenn clearly pushed off our CB and caught the ball. The 2nd was when Gardner went up for the ball in the end zone, and Newman held his arm and there was no call. Those 2 calls went against us and was a 14 point turnaround.

Refs also missed a call late to end that game where Gardner caught a deep ball and he was down by contact (his knee was on the ground and was touched by a Cowboy), then Roy Williams hit him helmet to helmet. If that call is made, we kick the FG and go into OT.

Yes, that is the game I was referring to. I incorrectly remembered it as a game that showed the problems with the re-emphasis on pass interference, rather it was a blatant example of the referees having far too much influence on the result of the competition. The referees were responsible for a 14-point swing in the score and virtually ruined any chance the Redskins had of winning.