Are the Redskins as bad as the Dolphins?

[questionman]

The opening line @ 16 says yes.

 

[reflexblue]

The opening line @ 16 says yes.

I don't think so. Miami has to be as bad as it can get. The 'Skins have a defense and a decent offese I believe. The game is in Foxboro and the Pats just keep scoring alot of points. So why stop now.

 

[Patriot Power]

Point spreads are about bringing the money in on even sides for the house, not a measuring stick for how good a team is.

 

[RoughingthePasser]

The Skins won't even score 28 pts.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

We'll get a nice look at how we do against a good secondary, playing the skins (unless there are injuries I dont know about.)

PFnV

 

[Isaac]

Agreed that point spread is not a good measuring stick, but in any case remember that this game is in NE so theoretically the Redskins would be getting 13 1/2 on a neutral site while the Phins would have gotten ~20.

Living in DC I hear plenty about the Skins. Their big problem now is injuries along the offensive line--they've been decimated. Second biggest problem is disorganization among the coaching staff which leads to all sorts of game management errors. Gregg Williams has used a different defensive philosophy this year--very little blitzing, emphasizing coverage. Unfortunately for them this results in relatively weak QB pressure, which Brady will surely enjoy. Maybe they blitz this game, it would be an interesting twist from a Redskins perspective.

 

[richpats]

Their defense will provide the biggest challenge to our offense so far. I say "challenge" relatively speaking...the Skins offense is mediocre at best though. We are going to win going away.

 

[JohnVM]

Skins have a large and fanatic fan base who will bet heavily on them regardless of the odds. Dolphins fans hate their team, and are unwilling to bet on them. This alone would account for some of the point difference.

 

[Oswlek]

The opening line @ 16 says yes.

No. The Pats are at home, which adds to the spread. Had this past geam been a home game, NE would have been favored by 22.5 points.

 

[Oswlek]

Skins have a large and fanatic fan base who will bet heavily on them regardless of the odds. Dolphins fans hate their team, and are unwilling to bet on them. This alone would account for some of the point difference.

If so, you would expect the spread to be lower than it is.

 

[letekro]

Skins have a large and fanatic fan base who will bet heavily on them regardless of the odds. Dolphins fans hate their team, and are unwilling to bet on them. This alone would account for some of the point difference.

one team's fanbase has a negligible effect on the line one way or the other. And this sure doesn't sound like fanaticism:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217778

 

[aj3380]

one team's fanbase has a negligible effect on the line one way or the other. And this sure doesn't sound like fanaticism:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217778

Hold up, Its ok to call the team into question but calling out the fan's love for the team is another. Wait till you're window is closed and you return to the Pats of old. Let's see how many fair-weather fans you have. Even with a decade of bad playing the fans have sold out that stadium, even when norv turner was the coach. The link you posted are fans who respect the pats and understand the team is an underdog but don't call out the redskins fan base.

 

[jaytyme]

as far as i can tell, there's no reason to believe our offense will be stopped regardless of how much better the skins D is. our offense has been "unstoppable" all season.

i'm sure that after we destroy the colts.....Polian will be crying to the league for changes in the rules to help the defensive secondary. lmao, the league changes the rules and belichik is the 1st to take advantage of it....what else is new

 

[PatsRI]

They are a better team than the Fins but, it's here, and I don't think they are as good as Dallas by any means.

 

[stattry]

The opening line @ 16 says yes.

Regardless of how mismatched teams are (i.e. miami and NE), there's just never going to be an outrageous point spread. I don't think you'll see one over twenty in the NFL.

I think a spread of 16 is basically vegas saying "we think it's going to be a blow out but this is just about our ceiling"

supposedly there are professionals on both sides of the ball, although it can be hard to tell sometimes.

 

[Two Eight]

The skins could easily be 6-0 and they really should have best GB to be be 5-1. They have a solid defense with a very good secondary. I think they finally found their QB in Jason Campbell, he's young and just needs to gain some experience. Decent WR's, nice TE in Cooley and a good 1-2 running game.

I think the skins will give us a good game but they have trouble finishing on offense and they're certainly not in the Pats league nobody is. They already beat Miami and will roll through NYJ and Buffalo, so I think they're better than 3/4's of the AFC East.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Hold up, Its ok to call the team into question but calling out the fan's love for the team is another. Wait till you're window is closed and you return to the Pats of old. Let's see how many fair-weather fans you have. Even with a decade of bad playing the fans have sold out that stadium, even when norv turner was the coach. The link you posted are fans who respect the pats and understand the team is an underdog but don't call out the redskins fan base.

By Pats of old, do you mean the great teams in the late 70's?

The AFC champion team of 1985?

The solid team of the mid 90's, AFC champions in 1996?

Just curious.

I guess we will have to wait until at least 2013 to find out, since Belichick is signed up until then.

That should make for twenty years of good football teams, going back to the Bledsoe era.

Of course, if Belichick is not extended past 2013, what makes you think this team will resemble something from the 1960's?

Just curious.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

The opening line @ 16 says yes.

We're at home, not away and, unlike last week, so it would probably be 10--13 if we were playing in DC. I also think the line might contract a bit in the next day or so. But, to answer your question, No, they are not as bad as the Dolphins.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Hold up, Its ok to call the team into question but calling out the fan's love for the team is another. Wait till you're window is closed and you return to the Pats of old. Let's see how many fair-weather fans you have. Even with a decade of bad playing the fans have sold out that stadium, even when norv turner was the coach. The link you posted are fans who respect the pats and understand the team is an underdog but don't call out the redskins fan base.

i assume you're a 'skins fan out here for the week. Welcome. Keep your comments knowledgeable and polite and you will find a nice reception.

As for your comment, I agree that the Redskins fanbase is among the most dedicated and loyal in all of Football. How else could Dan Snyder have built a billion dollar franchise with an inconsistent (at best) team.

As for the "days of old," you have to go back to the '70's to find a consistently losing team. Since 1985, the team's record is 194--164, with seven losing seasons out of 22 years (three of them in the years between Berry and Parcells).

 

[aj3380]

By Pats of old, do you mean the great teams in the late 70's?

The AFC champion team of 1985?

The solid team of the mid 90's, AFC champions in 1996?

Just curious.

I guess we will have to wait until at least 2013 to find out, since Belichick is signed up until then.

That should make for twenty years of good football teams, going back to the Bledsoe era.

Of course, if Belichick is not extended past 2013, what makes you think this team will resemble something from the 1960's?

Just curious.

don't make me laugh. Come on, let's be civil here. Your saying the pats were a strong franchise before, please. YOu sound like eagle fans. What makes you think after brady is gone that the team will not stink again. You saw what happened when the backup went in against Miami. It happens to all great teams. I hope you don't think your franchise is better then the steelers or cowboys because then you're just insane.