Marcus Spears - Dumbest man in the NFL

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

Eh, I don't know. We'll see. I think the Pats came out a little flat vs. the Browns, but I also think Romeo Crennel did a nice job taking Moss away, defensing Brady in general - I mean we still put up big points and won handily, but it wasn't necessarily JUST the Pats being bored.

And the Pats don't look for disrespect JUST against bad teams, and I'm sure they don't overlook the Cowboys. Most of us here think the Patriots will win, but I think we all consider Dallas a very good challenge. The thing is, the Pats LIKE being dissed to the point that they exaggerate at times and create bulletin board material to then "respond" to.

Thanks for your contributions, it's been good to hear a different P.O.V. You have a good, solid team.

To be fair to Romo-I thought he just started pressing too hard in the Buff game. I hope it was a learning experience for him(and to be fair to TO, Romo overthrew a couple of potential TDs to him, and missed another on the 5th INT). Maybe the crowd noise made him nervous? I dunno.

With that being said-Honestly, I don't expect Brady to start coming out pressing or anything. I wish, but doesn't look like it.

 

[Ahriman]

I remember said something like "If you ain't trying you ain't cheatin'", but wow, he said THAT??!! You gotta be kidding me!

Yep, Andrea Kramer even mentioned it during the game.

And I had forgotten about that cheating comment.

Honestly, though, Rodney Harrison is the main culprit in the locker room when it comes to spreading these things around. I think he should be given an honorary position: DS - Disrespected Saftey. You can be a choir boy all week long and he'll find a way to manufacture some sort of insult you may or may not have said about him, the team, or any living human being in general. In that respect, like patsox said, they are somewhat childish. But hey, it works, apparently.

 

[patsox23]

To be fair to Romo-I thought he just started pressing too hard in the Buff game. I hope it was a learning experience for him(and to be fair to TO, Romo overthrew a couple of potential TDs to him, and missed another on the 5th INT). Maybe the crowd noise made him nervous? I dunno.

With that being said-Honestly, I don't expect Brady to start coming out pressing or anything. I wish, but doesn't look like it.

I think it's totally pointless for any Pats fan - or any ANY fan, for that matter - to think/hope Romo's performance THIS week will be informed on any level by how crappy he looked last week. I think it was an aberration. I hope I'm wrong, but the guy can play. He just sucked last week. He'll be far better Sunday afternoon.

 

[sebman2112]

Whats up with you guys and the 5 year and 6 year were so amazing come backs. Seriously, I can go on and talk about former glory years...

Yes, I follow football more than some baseball/football local homer who only follows their team when its winning. Only pathetic teams need bulletin board material week in and week out to come out on Sunday/Monday and perform. Look at those weak dolphins trying to guarantee wins and talk trash every week, yet they do nothing. They are trying motivational tactics that end up failing. Keep it in the lockerroom....

Bulletin board material is a plus to keep your team motivated when EASY teams are coming up. You don't really need bulletin board material when playing 5-0 teams. The motivation for playing those teams comes from the need to prove yourself on the public stage.

But what do I know about football...

Your asking us this question after your "mental fortitude" statement? And yes the Patriots recent history is a valid point concerning your assertion's as that recent history proves they're more than able when dealing with simular situations. If anything they've been one of the best teams in the league at getting an opponents head out of the game, but you've been watching football for years so you must have already known this?

 

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

Your asking us this question after your "mental fortitude" statement? And yes the Patriots recent history is a valid point concerning your assertion's as that recent history proves they're more than able when dealing with simular situations. If anything they've been one of the best teams in the league at getting an opponents head out of the game, but you've been watching football for years so you must have already known this?

I have to admit-teams like Baltimore, Pitt, SD, etc pride themselves on statistics(i.e. being the #1 D in the league in ALL categories, et al). However-what I've really liked how NE during their run this decade is how they're quite the contrary.

That '01 team was what-15th in yardage allowed and scoring D? And those '03 and '04 teams weren't exactly the '85 Bears or the '00 Ravens, but they must have set a record for most defensive stops at the right times(i.e. when they stuffed the Colts 1 yard short in an '03 reg season game).

Pt being that the Pats always get their matchups spot on at the right places and at the most opportune times. The stat sheets may not show it, but they get rewarded with many more W's.

 

[sebman2112]

I have to admit-teams like Baltimore, Pitt, SD, etc pride themselves on statistics(i.e. being the #1 D in the league in ALL categories, et al). However-what I've really liked how NE during their run this decade is how they're quite the contrary.

That '01 team was what-15th in yardage allowed and scoring D? And those '03 and '04 teams weren't exactly the '85 Bears or the '00 Ravens, but they must have set a record for most defensive stops at the right times(i.e. when they stuffed the Colts 1 yard short in an '03 reg season game).

Pt being that the Pats always get their matchups spot on at the right places and at the most opportune times. The stat sheets may not show it, but they get rewarded with many more W's.

Yea, and you have to remember they battled record setting injuries during those 2003-2004 seasons, which only added to their defensive scheme being that of "bend but don't break" They'd let you move the ball down the field but once you got inside the 20 it was very tough going.

 

[patsox23]

I have to admit-teams like Baltimore, Pitt, SD, etc pride themselves on statistics(i.e. being the #1 D in the league in ALL categories, et al). However-what I've really liked how NE during their run this decade is how they're quite the contrary.

That '01 team was what-15th in yardage allowed and scoring D? And those '03 and '04 teams weren't exactly the '85 Bears or the '00 Ravens, but they must have set a record for most defensive stops at the right times(i.e. when they stuffed the Colts 1 yard short in an '03 reg season game).

Pt being that the Pats always get their matchups spot on at the right places and at the most opportune times. The stat sheets may not show it, but they get rewarded with many more W's.

The Pats D in 2003 and 2004 were not equivalent to the '85 Bears and '00 Ravens, but the premise of your post seems to be that they were merely opportunistic and made the plays they needed to make "at the right times." The Patriots defenses in those years, and in most of the years under THE BEST DEFENSIVE MIND THE NFL HAS EVER SEEN, has been ELITE. It's a really good system and they have a lot of really good players.

It's not just, "Well, now we have to step up and make a play here." It's good, sound playmaking, outstanding coaching and toughness that few can equal. It's an excellent defensive team, not just a timely one.

 

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

The Pats D in 2003 and 2004 were not equivalent to the '85 Bears and '00 Ravens, but the premise of your post seems to be that they were merely opportunistic and made the plays they needed to make "at the right times." The Patriots defenses in those years, and in most of the years under THE BEST DEFENSIVE MIND THE NFL HAS EVER SEEN, has been ELITE. It's a really good system and they have a lot of really good players.

It's not just, "Well, now we have to step up and make a play here." It's good, sound playmaking, outstanding coaching and toughness that few can equal. It's an excellent defensive team, not just a timely one.

I've said this in many other threads-honestly, over that '99-'01 three year span, the national sports media kept making Kurt and Sue Warner look like Brangelina.

Alot of football fans are VERY thankful that you guys finally exposed the Rams for the frauds they are(in that SB, I couldn't help but laugh every time Bruce/Holt/Az-Hakim kept hitting the ground every time a Pats defender was in front of them)-since then, Warner's MVP trophies are full of dust, and he's been lucky to get serviceable backup roles since.:singing:

 

[sebman2112]

The Pats D in 2003 and 2004 were not equivalent to the '85 Bears and '00 Ravens, but the premise of your post seems to be that they were merely opportunistic and made the plays they needed to make "at the right times." The Patriots defenses in those years, and in most of the years under THE BEST DEFENSIVE MIND THE NFL HAS EVER SEEN, has been ELITE. It's a really good system and they have a lot of really good players.

It's not just, "Well, now we have to step up and make a play here." It's good, sound playmaking, outstanding coaching and toughness that few can equal. It's an excellent defensive team, not just a timely one.

Yea, they had that bend but don't break scheme workin' to perfection, as they would give up yards but were 1st in scoring defense in 2003 and 3rd in scoring defense in 2004. Just goes to show you going by yardage allowed rankings doesn't tell you entirely enough of the story. To think they had the no.1 & no.3 scoring D's in '03/'04 while going through those record setting injuries I talked about. Pretty amazing really. Oh, and from 2003 to present NE's 16.5 PPG allowed is number one in the entire NFL during that time span.

 

[emoney_33]

Ive been only watching the 2007 Patriots for 3 weeks, studying you as our game gets closer. You are a good team who seems to get bored playing weaker teams as you progress throughout the season. If your coaches and leaders don't create ways to keep your team motivated when playing those lesser teams you might end up with a loss.

If you think the cowboys are a lesser team and you need material to keep yourself motivated, your coaches and players are strongly mistaken.

I'm out for tonight, will bookmark till after Sundays game. I usually surf opposing forums, but don't rub it in their faces after we win because of karma. :bricks:

Chances are we won't see you guys for 4 years after this week, hope it turns out to be an amazing game.

Hmmmmm the pats get bored of weaker opponents and come out with 17+ point wins every week. The cowboys play the bills and need everything to go right in the last 2 minutes to squeak out with a win. Yea you definitely follow football and your vast football intelligence just shows all over this thread...

 

[emoney_33]

I have to admit-teams like Baltimore, Pitt, SD, etc pride themselves on statistics(i.e. being the #1 D in the league in ALL categories, et al). However-what I've really liked how NE during their run this decade is how they're quite the contrary.

That '01 team was what-15th in yardage allowed and scoring D? And those '03 and '04 teams weren't exactly the '85 Bears or the '00 Ravens, but they must have set a record for most defensive stops at the right times(i.e. when they stuffed the Colts 1 yard short in an '03 reg season game).

Pt being that the Pats always get their matchups spot on at the right places and at the most opportune times. The stat sheets may not show it, but they get rewarded with many more W's.

Situational football. BB hammers down situational football to the players more than any other coach. This team is always prepared for almost any situation so when the big ones come around, they are fully prepared

 

[TruthSeeker]

Ive been only watching the 2007 Patriots for 3 weeks, studying you as our game gets closer. You are a good team who seems to get bored playing weaker teams as you progress throughout the season. If your coaches and leaders don't create ways to keep your team motivated when playing those lesser teams you might end up with a loss.

Clearly you don't have a clue about the Patriots. There is no better team in the NFL in focusing on the game at hand than the Patriots. I think that this is well-known throughout the League and I have heard it discussed on national sports shows often over the years (so that many non-Patriot fans are very well aware of this).

Perhaps you weren't paying attention through the videotaping accusations when BB said, "I'm just focusing on the San Diego Chargers". Guess what? He really was just focusing on the San Diego Chargers! And so were the Patriot players! And it led to a 24 point half-time lead! Just like this week they are "just focusing on the Dallas Cowboys". Certainly no guarantees about how the game will turn out, but be assured that whether the Cowboys were 5-0 or 0-5, the Patriots would totally focus on them and be prepared to play them.

BB doesn't need any bulletin board material from other teams to focus his players. After the Patriots had won 4 straight blowouts to start the season, BB noted that they had scored 114 points in their wins. He said that another Patriot team from 5 years ago had scored 115 points in 4 straight wins to open the season - and then had gone on to lose their next 3 in a row. The message was clear and was understood. And BB has a message every week that gets the players' attention, is factual and is worth paying attention to.

No one knows better than the Patriots that every game in the NFL is a losable game if you're not doing the things it takes to win. And no fanbase should know this better than Patriots because we hear the same thing every week from the coach and the players - it they don't focus all their efforts in properly preparing for this week's game, they could well end up losing a winnable game. That's the Patriot mantra.

Now you know. There are no "weaker teams" that get ignored by the Patriots or less than their best effort. To believe that there is is ignorance at best or foolishness at worst.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Marcus Spears didn't really say anything you guys haven't been hearing for weeks. Everyones been saying this, and most players have been coming out calling you dirty. I imagine in order for something to be bulletin board material and causes motivation it needs to be fresh.

I kind of wish someone would trash talk, I don't think the patriots have the mental fortitude to take it.

That is because you are an idiot.

Unlike the brokeback boys, we have either won superbowls or been in the playoffs in 5 of the last 6 years and set the all time win streak in NFL history.

Mental fortitude is clearly part of that.

 

[upstater1]

Marcus Spears didn't really say anything you guys haven't been hearing for weeks. Everyones been saying this, and most players have been coming out calling you dirty. I imagine in order for something to be bulletin board material and causes motivation it needs to be fresh.

I kind of wish someone would trash talk, I don't think the patriots have the mental fortitude to take it.

do you know how many swaggering talkers like you have come to this board over the last 6 years?

And how many have gone home with their tail between their legs?

We're not impressed little boy.

 

[BTTA]

Marcus Spears I kind of wish someone would trash talk, I don't think the patriots have the mental fortitude to take it.

There is a lot more mental fortitude in NOT trash trash talking than there is IN trash talking. 95% of the trash talkers are declaring to the world: "I have low self regard, and I'm trying to cover it up with this pitiful attempt at bringing you down." It's a spin off of the pitiful "respect me or I'll get mad at you" sub culture.

There are exceptions (Bird, Jordan, Brady at times); these are players who are picking their targets because they know the other player is susceptible to it. They use it strategically.

 

[PATSNUTme]

A big thanks to Wade and Marcus. No, the Patriots do not need this to get them fired up for the game. But, it adds just a little more fire to the fire that already burning.

When do NFL players and coaches ever learn. Think it but don't say it a few days before you play another team.

 

[jbb9s]

All we need now is a last minute comment from the original 81, other then the 'note', about not knowing the names of the Patriot defensive backs.

 

[FrontSeven]

Marcus Spears
I kind of wish someone would trash talk, I don't think the patriots have the mental fortitude to take it.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[reflexblue]

Must I remind you guys of your new logo's?

really jimy johnson admited doing the same thing when he coached the cow's Eienstien.

 

[Terry Glenn is a cowgirl]

Right. Because the Patriots haven't dealt with that and kicked its ass OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER for almost a decade. Where do you come up with this stuff? Do you follow football?

Apparently she doesn't...