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He didnt say that, just kidding. :) But remember just 5 years ago when so many people were calling Bledsoe the hall of fame QB and asking how you could go with this dink and dunk kid?

Now its Brady who is a sure bet Hall of Famer and Drew? Will he get there?
After losing his job to 3 young QBs in 3 different cities?

When did you see what Brady could be? For me it was the first half at Denver in his 5th start. I remember looking at him and thinking "Joe Montana". Then he went out and threw 4 picks in the second half :)

But the drive against the Rams confirmed it for me.

And now you look at this machine, this combination of the '86 Celtics and the '89 49ers, and you just have to say to Bill Belichick, thank you for having the guts to make the correct decision for the football team.

Most coaches would have gone back to Bledsoe and none of this would have happened.
 
I hope the mods start locking or otherwise dealing with threads that have false, allegedly humorous titles.
 
He didnt say that, just kidding. :) But remember just 5 years ago when so many people were calling Bledsoe the hall of fame QB and asking how you could go with this dink and dunk kid?

Now its Brady who is a sure bet Hall of Famer and Drew? Will he get there?
After losing his job to 3 young QBs in 3 different cities?

When did you see what Brady could be? For me it was the first half at Denver in his 5th start. I remember looking at him and thinking "Joe Montana". Then he went out and threw 4 picks in the second half :)

But the drive against the Rams confirmed it for me.

And now you look at this machine, this combination of the '86 Celtics and the '89 49ers, and you just have to say to Bill Belichick, thank you for having the guts to make the correct decision for the football team.

Most coaches would have gone back to Bledsoe and none of this would have happened.

It took me longer to be sold on Brady as an all-time elite QB. After the first SB win, I thought he was something special, but wasn't ready to put him in the elite. (Not because of what he had or handt accomplished yet, but he just wasnt that good yet). During 2002, I started to see it. In 2003, especially in that seasons playoffs, I was convinced he was the best in the NFL, and belonged in the all-time discussion.
Right now, I think his potential is to end his career as unquestionably the best ever. (Of course there will always be debate). He has really only had half a career, but if he stays what he is today, and never improves, barring injury, the only QB who would challenge him for that honor, IMO, would be Montana, and more rings will clinch it. (Manning has a chance too, in the very unlikely possibility he won as many SBs as Brady)
 
It took me longer to be sold on Brady as an all-time elite QB. After the first SB win, I thought he was something special, but wasn't ready to put him in the elite. (Not because of what he had or handt accomplished yet, but he just wasnt that good yet). During 2002, I started to see it. In 2003, especially in that seasons playoffs, I was convinced he was the best in the NFL, and belonged in the all-time discussion.
Right now, I think his potential is to end his career as unquestionably the best ever. (Of course there will always be debate). He has really only had half a career, but if he stays what he is today, and never improves, barring injury, the only QB who would challenge him for that honor, IMO, would be Montana, and more rings will clinch it. (Manning has a chance too, in the very unlikely possibility he won as many SBs as Brady)

I think this is the year, if Brady continues to have an MVP season and the Patriots have an historic type SB win season, that Brady moves up ahead of the Staubach, Starr, Favre class and gets to a level behind Montana, Unitas, and Elway.

But i agree, 5 more years of this and hes right there with Montana. And he seems to have the competitive drive to accomplish it.
 
Bledsoe will not make the HOF thats all that really needs to be said.

Drew was a very average QB with an above average arm. Thats all.
 
Bledsoe will not make the HOF thats all that really needs to be said.

Drew was a very average QB with an above average arm. Thats all.

Yup. And the guy was a statue behind the line too.
Brady is a lock if he retired right now.
 
When did you see what Brady could be? For me it was the first half at Denver in his 5th start. I remember looking at him and thinking "Joe Montana". Then he went out and threw 4 picks in the second half :)

For me, the game that stands out was the 17-16 game against the Jets. TB was doing nothing in the first half. They came out 5-wide in the second and came back. I was impressed the he and the team could make the halftime adjustment, and he could change his style of play so much.

BY the way, if the way to win is just to dink and dunk, why don't more teams do it more often? Maybe running an effective screen is not as easy as people think; if the D blows up a screen, it can be a big loss.
 
Here is the bottom line on the Bledsoe argument..


Bledsoe was talented , but he did not have the head for the game, he felt his talent will carry him thru.. And for the first couple yrs, it did.. But after a while he did not do the little things to improve.. Bledsoe cant hold a candle to Tom Brady.. He should still be in Buffalo, because Losman will be a bad QB..
 
Da Bears are calling him as we speak.
 
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What's impressive about Brady--well, one of the things that's impressive--is that he wins with whatever cast of wide receivers he has.

If he has to win by dinking and dunking, he does.

If he has to win with by throwing long, he does.

If he has to win with moderately talented guys, he does.

If he has to win with great players, he does.

He can adjust his game to just anyone who's on the receiving end of his passes, and that is pretty remarkable.

It is also in sharp contrast to Peyton, who has had the good luck to have one or more terrific speedsters during his entire career.
 
I hope the mods start locking or otherwise dealing with threads that have false, allegedly humorous titles.

Come on, calm down. He was just kidding. And said so in his first sentence! Jeez. Rule 62, people. RULE 62!
 
Da Bears are calling him as we speak.

He would be a great fit for the Bears heres why

1) big game recievers who can get down the field
2) big strong ofensive line
3) Solid running game
4) A quality defense that is going to give him a lot of short fields to work with

Bledsoe was a great QB for the first 6 years of his carrer he was the fastest to 40k. He should be in the hall on his stats alone. You can draw alot of comparisons between him and Marino, of course the biggest difference was pocket presence but actually in DB's first 4 years he had a monster line and rarely got sacked. it wasn't till Carrol came in that their line went to Pot and he was exposed for a the feet in cement QB he is. I still say Bledsoe to Coates was the most prolific QB-TE combo ever
 
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Actually Drew would be a great pickup for the Bears. By season's end, assuming they hadn't already lost too many games, he'd be in sync for the playoffs. Problem being it's late to START learning an O on week 4.
 
Actually Drew would be a great pickup for the Bears. By season's end, assuming they hadn't already lost too many games, he'd be in sync for the playoffs. Problem being it's late to START learning an O on week 4.

Bledsoe sucked on a loaded Dallas offense. No way he can do it for Chicago which comparatively has less weapons than Dallas.

My Brady moment was the Snow Bowl. Sure, he had other solid games that are mentioned (17-16 Jets, etc) but prior to XXXVI, being down 13-3 in the 3rd qtr and going 32-50 for 302 yards in a blizzard was for the ages.
 
My Brady moment was the 23 point comeback in Champagne, Illinois against the bears in 2002.

As for Bledsoe, that 2002 season and a brief stretch in 2006-07 were the only times Bledsoe was great. Other than that, he was a regular, 3800 yard, 22 touchdown, 18 interception quarterback. Never great.
 
My Brady moment was the 23 point comeback in Champagne, Illinois against the bears in 2002.

As for Bledsoe, that 2002 season and a brief stretch in 2006-07 were the only times Bledsoe was great. Other than that, he was a regular, 3800 yard, 22 touchdown, 18 interception quarterback. Never great.

That comeback had so much more to do with Kevin Faulk working his ass off while the rest of the team struggled to find a groove. Once things started clicking, Brady was a good contributor but that comeback doesn't happen without #33
 
The overtime TD pass to Troy Brown in Miami in '03 80 some odd yards to win the game
 
As for Bledsoe, that 2002 season and a brief stretch in 2006-07 were the only times Bledsoe was great. Other than that, he was a regular, 3800 yard, 22 touchdown, 18 interception quarterback. Never great.
You forgot that 17 game stretch in the 2001 season with the exception of the AFC Championship game where Drew pulled the team's knickers out of a jam.

Yeah, I've been a Pats fan longer than most who have posted on this thread, and yes, Drew has thrown in the towel after being ineffective in Buffalo and Dallas. But he put this team on the map and is only one of two QBs to lead his team to the Super Bowl in the past 15 years with a non-top 10 defense. Lacking anything resembling running game for much of his tenure in the 90s until Curtis Martin came to the team (hey, what happened to Curt . . . nevermind), Bledsoe stood in there and was revered by the fans of New England.

Recently, he appears to be the butt boy of many who started watching the team during the Belichick era. Now, many are true fans and just started following the team during the past 6 years due their youth. However, be aware that Drew was solid and considered one of the best in the league for several years. He played injured and stood tall in many games. He flourished under Bill Parcells and suffered with the Pete Carroll schemes (and I use that term loosely).

There's no doubt Brady is a step above and is peerless in this league, maybe in NFL history. I prefer to save that discussion for when he finally retires in 25 years ;). Yet, Bledsoe deserves credit for putting this team in the public eye and moving it in to the spotlight in New England during his tenure.
 
I think Drew got something of a raw deal at times; he played on some really terrible teams and there was those times where he would take a snap, go two steps back and the D-line will already have been there and can just take their best shot on him, and that was when he was taking a record number of pass attempts. Given his lack of mobility or peripheral vision it was just about the worst environment there could be and he still had a pretty successful career.
 
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