CHFF on Pats...

[patsox23]

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_1673_New_feel_for_New_England:_wins_AND_stats.html

Good read. Thanks to www.patriotsdaily.com for linking it.

 

[Water Boy]

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_1673_New_feel_for_New_England:_wins_AND_stats.html

Good read. Thanks to www.patriotsdaily.com for linking it.

Holy crap! The 1998 Minnesota Vikings had the top ranked scoring offense in the Super Bowl era.

1998 Vikings - 34.75 PPG (556 in 16 games)

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Holy crap! The 1998 Minnesota Vikings had the top ranked scoring offense in the Super Bowl era.

1998 Vikings - 34.75 PPG (556 in 16 games)

It's funny that this article mentions the 1998 Vikings w/Moss and that they are the top-scoring team (in SB era). I was thinking of those Vikings, those 15-1 Vikings. That Vikings team didn't have the defense this Pats team has.

Obviously there will be talk of 16-0 (or 19-0), but cautious preseason estimates figured the typical 11 or 12 wins, maybe an aggressive prediction of 13. Now 13 wins looks conservative. Fourteen seems like a floor at this point, with 15 very doable and 16 not out of the question. I thought the 2004 team would be the best Pats team I've ever seen, but I very well may be wrong.

Regards,
Chris

P.S. Pats, please stay healthy.

 

[Dragda]

It's funny that this article mentions the 1998 Vikings w/Moss and that they are the top-scoring team (in SB era). I was thinking of those Vikings, those 15-1 Vikings. That Vikings team didn't have the defense this Pats team has.

Obviously there will be talk of 16-0 (or 19-0), but cautious preseason estimates figured the typical 11 or 12 wins, maybe an aggressive prediction of 13. Now 13 wins looks conservative. Fourteen seems like a floor at this point, with 15 very doable and 16 not out of the question. I thought the 2004 team would be the best Pats team I've ever seen, but I very well may be wrong.

Regards,
Chris

P.S. Pats, please stay healthy.

Chris_in_Sunnyvale wrong abotu something football related? I've been waiting a long time for that day! Welcome to my world.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

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But the Patriots kept matriculating themselves up the field<<<<<

They entered college??????I think somebody opened Roget's Thesaurus and pulled out the first word they saw or had a bet they could use the word matriculate in an article. Good article otherwise...

 

[JJDChE]

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But the Patriots kept matriculating themselves up the field<<<<<

They entered college??????I think somebody opened Roget's Thesaurus and pulled out the first word they saw or had a bet they could use the word matriculate in an article. Good article otherwise...

You're a youngster, eh?

Most long time football fans will always have the image Hank Stram pop into mind when someone mentions "matriculating" the ball down the field.

 

[FlyingElvis75]

Holy crap! The 1998 Minnesota Vikings had the top ranked scoring offense in the Super Bowl era.

1998 Vikings - 34.75 PPG (556 in 16 games)

You didn't know that? The single-season scoring record?? They also went 15-1 that year. Did you know that?

Well, I didn't either. Not many people do. Why? Because that team didn't even REACH the Superbowl.

PPG and other stats like that are interesting, but they're trivia. Nobody cares about them unless you win the big one. Or at least the conf. championship.

Whoever said "The journey matters more than the destination" wasn't talking about football. In football, it seems like nobody cares about the journey unless you reach the destination.

 

[shmessy]

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But the Patriots kept matriculating themselves up the field<<<<<

They entered college??????I think somebody opened Roget's Thesaurus and pulled out the first word they saw or had a bet they could use the word matriculate in an article. Good article otherwise...

It's an "in" joke with folks who are fans of the great NFL Fims of the the 1970 Super Bowl IV.

The background story from Ed Sabol is that Stram also asked for an "honorarium" for his work being miked up.

 

[JJDChE]

You didn't know that? The single-season scoring record?? They also went 15-1 that year. Did you know that?

Well, I didn't either. Not many people do. Why? Because that team didn't even REACH the Superbowl.

PPG and other stats like that are interesting, but they're trivia. Nobody cares about them unless you win the big one. Or at least the conf. championship.

Whoever said "The journey matters more than the destination" wasn't talking about football. In football, it seems like nobody cares about the journey unless you reach the destination.

I certainly remember that. What a brutal end to the season for the Vikings that year.

Their season ended due to a missed FG in the NFCCG. It was Gary Anderson's first missed FG of the season. He was 35-35 up to that point.

 

[JJDChE]

Make no mistake, the faux-erudite Stram could be creative with language, too. His entreaty to his Kansas City Chiefs players during their victory over Minnesota in Super Bowl IV, to keep "matriculating" the ball up the field, boys, is certainly one of the most unforgettable moments in the NFL Films archive. In truth, it is just a masterful bit of malapropism, since "matriculate" means to enroll at a school of higher education, not to advance a football.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2100503

 

[FlyingElvis75]

I certainly remember that. What a brutal end to the season for the Vikings that year.

Their season ended due to a missed FG in the NFCCG. It was Gary Anderson's first missed FG of the season. He was 35-35 up to that point.

I agree, I probably would have jumped off a bridge if I were a Vikings fan that season. Illustrates my point, though...the '98 Vikings are remembered more for choking away the NFC game than for setting the scoring record.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Chris_in_Sunnyvale wrong abotu something football related? I've been waiting a long time for that day! Welcome to my world.

Que?

Are you from ASFPNE-P and remember my posts there? If so, then yeah I post a lot less here only because the quality is typically better here so I'd only be repeating what others have said.

Regards,
Chris

 

[PrairiePat]

I certainly remember that. What a brutal end to the season for the Vikings that year.

Their season ended due to a missed FG in the NFCCG. It was Gary Anderson's first missed FG of the season. He was 35-35 up to that point.

It was a brutal end to the season, but Anderson's miss wasn't the reason - the Vikes led by 7 with ~ 2mins to go, and Anderson's FG would have put them up by 10.

After the miss, the Falcons marched down and scored on the not-so-hot Vikings defense to tie the game and send it to OT, where Atlanta then won it on a FG of their own.

It just goes to show that for all the accolades our Offense is getting, the Defense is still the critical element needed to advance in the playoffs. Just ask the Colts (though we did hang 34 on them in their building last Jan).

 

[JJDChE]

It was a brutal end to the season, but Anderson's miss wasn't the reason - the Vikes led by 7 with ~ 2mins to go, and Anderson's FG would have put them up by 10.

After the miss, the Falcons marched down and scored on the not-so-hot Vikings defense to tie the game and send it to OT, where Atlanta then won it on a FG of their own.

It just goes to show that for all the accolades our Offense is getting, the Defense is still the critical element needed to advance in the playoffs. Just ask the Colts (though we did hang 34 on them in their building last Jan).

You can look at it either way, if Anderson hits the FG it's a 10-point lead with 2mins left. Game Over.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

It's an "in" joke with folks who are fans of the great NFL Fims of the the 1970 Super Bowl IV.

The background story from Ed Sabol is that Stram also asked for an "honorarium" for his work being miked up.

All I remember Stram saying over and over again is "65 toss power trap".......

 

[njpatsfan]

The New England offense, meanwhile, is averaging a nifty 38.0 PPG, with a clean, easy-to-calculate 38 points in each of the three games this year.

This is technically wrong as stated. The *team* scored an average of 38 ppg, not the offense - 7 of the 114 points were scored by the defense (the Thomas INT for a TD).

Little point, but an uncharacteristic lapse by a great site that prides itself on accuracy.

R

 

[Oswlek]

It's funny that this article mentions the 1998 Vikings w/Moss and that they are the top-scoring team (in SB era). I was thinking of those Vikings, those 15-1 Vikings. That Vikings team didn't have the defense this Pats team has.

Obviously there will be talk of 16-0 (or 19-0), but cautious preseason estimates figured the typical 11 or 12 wins, maybe an aggressive prediction of 13. Now 13 wins looks conservative. Fourteen seems like a floor at this point, with 15 very doable and 16 not out of the question. I thought the 2004 team would be the best Pats team I've ever seen, but I very well may be wrong.

Regards,
Chris

P.S. Pats, please stay healthy.

15-1 with the only loss by 3 points.