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When you step back and put in context, it's not sad at all. I'm fine with it, and "moving on", to quote a great american historical figure.

Whatever. Juiced up gladiators under the lights, shooting sh*t into their asses and acting like "leaders." Videogate making me realize that most of the sportswriters I used to enjoy reading are sloppy, uninspired, unprofessional, and sanctimonious... The commissioner is J.Edgar Hoover. This sh*t really is the worst of America this year. It's embarassing.
 
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It's called growing up, a loss of naiveté. Rodney is most certainly not the only Patriot taking PEDs, nor across the NFL.

In all seriousness, what you should do is re-examine how sanctimonious you have been with so many others in sport. That's the real lesson here.

Yeah, sure, exactly. It's a league full of as*holes, so why hold anyone to any standard? A bunch of big-mouth crybaby arrogant idiots with pockets full of $20s. Okay. Fine.

Thank god for Tedy Bruschi, Tom Brady, and Chad Johnson. Keeping some integrity and fun in the game.

Meanwhile, I see a guy like Junior Seau flying around the field making plays, and instead of saying, "awesome," I say, "do they test for HGH?" It sucks. That's all.
 
Steroids raid still reverberating
Six months after Florida arrests, probe snares pro athletes, nets cash seizures

By BRENDAN J. LYONS, Senior writer
....

ALBANY -- ....


But a few days before the game, according to law enforcement sources, Harrison made what would be his first of several discreet calls over a three-year period to order drugs from a South Florida wellness clinic -- a clinic that later became a target of the Albany County district attorney.

The clinic's workers knew they had a star athlete on the phone -- he wasn't their first pro sports client -- yet they crafted a phony prescription, signed by a doctor, for the drugs that Harrison, now 34, believed would help prolong his career, sources said.

Later that month, about two weeks prior to the Patriots' Super Bowl victory over the Carolina Panthers, a package containing human growth hormone in preloaded syringes arrived at Harrison's New England residence.

HGH, as it is called, is approved by the Food and Drug Administration for treating dwarfism in children and chronic wasting disease, often a symptom of AIDS. But it was banned by the NFL in 1991 as athletes and others began abusing it, usually in conjunction with steroids, in the belief the HGH can slow aging, speed healing and increase strength, stamina and muscle mass.

The same year Harrison placed his first order for HGH, New York Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement investigators in Albany began scrutinizing the illegal prescriptions of a Utica-area doctor, Dr. David W. Stephenson, whom they said built a lucrative business doling out drugs such as steroids and HGH to a largely Internet clientele.


If you have had the misfortune of trying to find out whether a close family member is in the hospital,
you are aware that the drill now is,
"I'm sorry, sir. Privacy laws forbid us to disclose any such information
and I must end this conversation now."

Fortunately for us voyeurs in fandom, no such considerations apply to any public figure
whose name might crop up on the margin
of a criminal investigation of some entirely different person ... say, a physician.

Law enforcement seems perfectly comfortable imparting any such information
to all and sundry ... beginning with your employer.
 
It's unfortunate Rodney is a cheater, it really is. It's unfortunate Belichick broke the rules about videotaping on the sideline. It does suck that all this is being piled on at once. But, honestly, what ******* difference does the credibility of the fans have to do with winning on the field? You're a schmuck who just enjoys attempting to rile up a group of people you don't even know. You are as mature as a third grader, and that might be a compliment.

What does "winning on the field" have to do with this thread? Not trying to rile anyone. We're talking about serious matters that affect the NFL as a whole, the integrity of the game.
 
ooo the EM word. sorry it seems like that happened so long ago. I was personally surprised he had been using for that long. excuuuuse me.
No. THere is no excuse for posting stuff that isn't true. If you were sincerely too lazy to look up what he said and just posted without even bothering to check, simply apologize for your laziness.

If you were deliberately trying to deceive us, then you should try to ridicule the people who call you out. Which you chose to do, so I have to believe the deceipt was deliberate on your part.
 
A policeman on PatriotsPlanet says he's familiar with the case and says the "source" is bogus. He said that he knows the timeline of the case but can't speak about it.
 
A policeman on PatriotsPlanet says he's familiar with the case and says the "source" is bogus. He said that he knows the timeline of the case but can't speak about it.

Not to doubt you, but that sounds like one of those "cousin's boyfriend's uncle says..." type things.
 
What does "winning on the field" have to do with this thread? Not trying to rile anyone. We're talking about serious matters that affect the NFL as a whole, the integrity of the game.

The same thing that the "credibility of Patriots fans" does. For someone so concerned with integrity, you seem to lack the very thing.
 
Not to doubt you, but that sounds like one of those "cousin's boyfriend's uncle says..." type things.


Actually it is not. ALL these cases are co-ordinated with FDA agents. I know nothing about Rodney, but I do know the timeline of certain things. I also know this is an ongoing investigation and anyone that "knows" particulars about Rodneys section of the case would not tell the media. These are not street level officers involved here.

Second I would point out that I posted here about the Pacman case. I was "called out" by a few people here that I couldn't possibly know about a video in the club and that he was going to be charged. According to posters I was making stuff up....well low and behold...what what happened? What was the evidence?

I don't make stuff up and it is never my "cousins" friend. If it is opinion I am clear I am giving a professional opinion not based on actual information just expereince. This is not opinion.

You might want to think for yourself though also. Funny how this comes out HOW LONG AFTER Rodney is suspended? I said this before, everyone calls BS on Hines Ward and others for spouting off about games in the past that they knew the Pats were cheating 4 years ago but NEVER SAID ANYTHING??? OH now they speak out? Think about it...
 
Actually it is not. ALL these cases are co-ordinated with FDA agents. I know nothing about Rodney, but I do know the timeline of certain things. I also know this is an ongoing investigation and anyone that "knows" particulars about Rodneys section of the case would not tell the media. These are not street level officers involved here.

Second I would point out that I posted here about the Pacman case. I was "called out" by a few people here that I couldn't possibly know about a video in the club and that he was going to be charged. According to posters I was making stuff up....well low and behold...what what happened? What was the evidence?

I don't make stuff up and it is never my "cousins" friend. If it is opinion I am clear I am giving a professional opinion not based on actual information just expereince. This is not opinion.

You might want to think for yourself though also. Funny how this comes out HOW LONG AFTER Rodney is suspended? I said this before, everyone calls BS on Hines Ward and others for spouting off about games in the past that they knew the Pats were cheating 4 years ago but NEVER SAID ANYTHING??? OH now they speak out? Think about it...

Thanks for posting, Patsblue, and for your work.
 
Actually it is not. ALL these cases are co-ordinated with FDA agents. I know nothing about Rodney, but I do know the timeline of certain things. I also know this is an ongoing investigation and anyone that "knows" particulars about Rodneys section of the case would not tell the media. These are not street level officers involved here.

Second I would point out that I posted here about the Pacman case. I was "called out" by a few people here that I couldn't possibly know about a video in the club and that he was going to be charged. According to posters I was making stuff up....well low and behold...what what happened? What was the evidence?

I don't make stuff up and it is never my "cousins" friend. If it is opinion I am clear I am giving a professional opinion not based on actual information just expereince. This is not opinion.

You might want to think for yourself though also. Funny how this comes out HOW LONG AFTER Rodney is suspended? I said this before, everyone calls BS on Hines Ward and others for spouting off about games in the past that they knew the Pats were cheating 4 years ago but NEVER SAID ANYTHING??? OH now they speak out? Think about it...

Are you FirstAndGoal too? I'm just wondering by way you seem to indicate my post was directed towards you.
 
Are you FirstAndGoal too? I'm just wondering by way you seem to indicate my post was directed towards you.



Uuuh no, I don't post under multiple names. I am the poster from the Planet, so your post was ABOUT me so I responded.
 
Uuuh no, I don't post under multiple names. I am the poster from the Planet, so your post was ABOUT me so I responded.

Ah, now I understand. I was a little thrown off there for a second.
 
Actually it is not. ALL these cases are co-ordinated with FDA agents. I know nothing about Rodney, but I do know the timeline of certain things. I also know this is an ongoing investigation and anyone that "knows" particulars about Rodneys section of the case would not tell the media. These are not street level officers involved here.

You might want to think for yourself though also. Funny how this comes out HOW LONG AFTER Rodney is suspended? I said this before, everyone calls BS on Hines Ward and others for spouting off about games in the past that they knew the Pats were cheating 4 years ago but NEVER SAID ANYTHING??? OH now they speak out? Think about it...

The fact is, it's not just FDA officers, it's also the Albany D.A., who could gain by leaking reports to the media (namely because he's an elected official). This reads more like a "look what our D.A.'s doing" article than a "the Patriots were cheating" article. It's coming out 4 years later because the sting caught Rodney relatively recently. The same reason Troy Glaus came up, and Rick Ankiel.

By the way, for anyone who called this "New York media," Albany's further from New York than it is from Boston. The Times Union has a Patriots writer on staff, along with the Giants, Jets, and Bills.
 
In 10 years, just about EVERYONE will be using HGH (I know I will!). It is a GREAT advancement in medicine. Im not sure why everyone frowns on it.
 
Ah, now I understand. I was a little thrown off there for a second.



Just picked up on this thread again. Yes, that's who said it. I didn't know he posted here until now. I'm not in the habit of posting wild rumors but from following posts of his from the other board, it seemed that he might have reasonable information that people should consider before jumping off the deep end.
 
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The fact is, it's not just FDA officers, it's also the Albany D.A., who could gain by leaking reports to the media (namely because he's an elected official). This reads more like a "look what our D.A.'s doing" article than a "the Patriots were cheating" article. It's coming out 4 years later because the sting caught Rodney relatively recently. The same reason Troy Glaus came up, and Rick Ankiel.

By the way, for anyone who called this "New York media," Albany's further from New York than it is from Boston. The Times Union has a Patriots writer on staff, along with the Giants, Jets, and Bills.

I could leave your post with "the sting caught Rodney relatively recently" which would basically PROVE that the story about Rodney wasn't true..but I need to correct your post.

Rodney didn't get caught by any "sting" first. They are not charging ANY clients in these cases at all. Second Rodney's name did not come out recently because he "recently" got caught. No names were mentioned, produced or anything of the sort until charges were handed down. this is fairly obvious so I am assuming you just didn't type correctly and realize this so I will get off of this.

first this whole case is more than just this one Doctor...that is what the FDA's invovlement is. They co-ordinate and make sure no one steps on someone elses toes, they are a clearing house for on going invesitgations and the TIMELINES of those investigations.

Yes the DA could make a name, but he already has it with Rodney's name out there already adding to the media crucifixtion of the Pats does nothing for him at all. How does that make him look any better?

The "reporters" "source" is BS period. These guys make up more crap than a hollywood B movie screen writer
 
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Yeah, sure, exactly. It's a league full of as*holes, so why hold anyone to any standard? A bunch of big-mouth crybaby arrogant idiots with pockets full of $20s. Okay. Fine.

Thank god for Tedy Bruschi, Tom Brady, and Chad Johnson. Keeping some integrity and fun in the game.

Meanwhile, I see a guy like Junior Seau flying around the field making plays, and instead of saying, "awesome," I say, "do they test for HGH?" It sucks. That's all.

I'm with ya. While it's hard to root for "cheaters," I am not a perfect person either.

I am working on a novel (have been for too long) about three mediocre professional football players that use an experimental performance enhancing drug with dramatic results. I was very careful to make the characters likeable cheaters. It wasn't that hard. (sitting my butt down and working on this project every week IS hard).
 
From what i heard on the radio this morning HGH was NOT BANNED in the nfl until 2005. So if the stories are true he used it prior to it being banned..
 
I'm with ya. While it's hard to root for "cheaters," I am not a perfect person either.

I am working on a novel (have been for too long) about three mediocre professional football players that use an experimental performance enhancing drug with dramatic results. I was very careful to make the characters likeable cheaters. It wasn't that hard. (sitting my butt down and working on this project every week IS hard).

Sounds interesting man, good luck!
 
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