Email I Sent To Florio...Refuses To Report On Jets Cameraman Story

[BigMike]

Mike,

Thanks for jumping all over that Jets cameraman story! Great work! It was a joy to read your reporting on the Jets cameraman filming the Pats D last Sunday – excellent that you acknowledged all the posters who sent you game photos! Keep up the great work!



Mike

 

[SWelker]

If he can't flame Bill Belichick, hes not really interested in posting anything on the Pats.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Mike,

Thanks for jumping all over that Jets cameraman story! Great work! It was a joy to read your reporting on the Jets cameraman filming the Pats D last Sunday – excellent that you acknowledged all the posters who sent you game photos! Keep up the great work!



Mike

I just sent him one too - chiding him for not b!tchslapping players whinning about whether the Patriot SB victories are real or not.

I'm not surprised when other writers. players and fans are disingenious about their knowledge that the fact that signal stealing has been going on back to Vince Lombardi's days... one wouldn't want to let the facts get in the way of an overly righteous column

But I've come to expect a little bit more from Florio and let him know it. He should be all over the media and players who act like they don't know about signal stealing.

To anyone else sending an email, I'd just recommend you make your point in the Subject line - the guy gets a ton of emails and I don't expect he reads them all (I wouldn't if I were him)

 

[BigMike]

I Put "Thanks" In my subject line to Foolio - he an arrogant lawyer, so he'll open that up Im sure....prob hoping some criminal he defended is thanking him for great legal work.

 

[psychoPat]

I've linked to him many a time here.

But when he lines up with the dark side so thoroughly
as he has during this episode ...
he and his egotistic site lose me forever more.

 

[JJDChE]

So did he actually refuse you or are you just assuming his lack of response is a refusal rather than what probably happened, he deleted your e-mail without looking at it?

The guy probably gets thousands of e-mails every day. He ain't reading them all.

 

[pats1]

Florio usually responds to and/or makes indirect mention of my e-mails.

I have sent over 5 over the past few days about this and have gotten nothing.

 

[BigMike]

the silence is deafening.....even Foolio wont respond to anyones emails. Is this the grassy knoll or what? Other than a Miek Reiss one liner, no one will take this up.

On to week 2 tomorrow, I guess.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

No ones cares. unless its the pats.................... League Parity and all.

"You will all be mediocre, and like it"

 

[JJDChE]

the silence is deafening.....even Foolio wont respond to anyones emails. Is this the grassy knoll or what? Other than a Miek Reiss one liner, no one will take this up.

On to week 2 tomorrow, I guess.

Most journalists probably don't want to get suckered into a wild goose chase by anonymous internet posters. I wouldn't if I were them.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

Most journalists probably don't want to get suckered into a wild goose chase by anonymous internet posters. I wouldn't if I were them.

LOLOLOLOL, obviously have no idea about journalism do you............. The business is ALL about chasing wild geese in the hopes that you catch one. They may not wanna chase this particular goose (and there could be many reasons for that), but entire business of "reporting" is running down leads that will hopefully uncover a story that you can push. Many leads go nowhere.

my particular belief for this story only receiving lukewarm interest............ The original story is far sexier with the image that BB, arguably the best coach ever, cheated his way to the top.

If this story suddenly got legs and the ACTUAL truth of the matter got out that this stuff happens ALL THE TIME and BB is not the only one doing it, it actually makes the initial story less appealing.

The fact that their skewed (and sometimes false) coverage tarnishes or ruins the legacy of a great coach? Well, that might be important to us, but it obviously is not important to them.

 

[Deus Irae]

Most journalists probably don't want to get suckered into a wild goose chase by anonymous internet posters. I wouldn't if I were them.

Most 'journalists' would look like asses if it turned out that Mangini was doing exactly the same thing BB was doing. Exactly how hard do most people look for evidence proving that they've been a schmuck? I'm not following this photo stuff because it's too late for it to do any good for New England but, if it's true, it would be a nice "back at ya!" to Mangini.

 

[JJDChE]

LOLOLOLOL, obviously have no idea about journalism do you............. The business is ALL about chasing wild geese in the hopes that you catch one. They may not wanna chase this particular goose (and there could be many reasons for that), but entire business of "reporting" is running down leads that will hopefully uncover a story that you can push. Many leads go nowhere.

my particular belief for this story only receiving lukewarm interest............ The original story is far sexier with the image that BB, arguably the best coach ever, cheated his way to the top.

If this story suddenly got legs and the ACTUAL truth of the matter got out that this stuff happens ALL THE TIME and BB is not the only one doing it, it actually makes the initial story less appealing.

The fact that their skewed (and sometimes false) coverage tarnishes or ruins the legacy of a great coach? Well, that might be important to us, but it obviously is not important to them.

I don't think it's a lukewarm story at all, it's a hot story. The problem is that there is no story until it's confirmed. No evidence, therefore no reason for someone to follow up. If someone sent him information that definitively confirmed that a Jets team cameraman was illegally on the sidelines dong the same thing that the Patriots got pinched for he would pick it up. People are sending around these pictures asking people to do the legwork for them. It shouldn't be hard to figure out who the guy is and anyone on this board could figure it out with a few phone calls if they had the time and ambition.

 

[Rob0729]

Most journalists probably don't want to get suckered into a wild goose chase by anonymous internet posters. I wouldn't if I were them.

First of all, Florio runs a rumor site. He has never pretended to be a journalist in the strictest sense of the word.

Second, many big stories are found by Average Joes who pointed things out to a journalist. Ask Ron Borges if an anonymous internet poster can't break a story that went unnoticed by mainstream journalists.

 

[Rob0729]

I don't think it's a lukewarm story at all, it's a hot story. The problem is that there is no story until it's confirmed. No evidence, therefore no reason for someone to follow up. If someone sent him information that definitively confirmed that a Jets team cameraman was illegally on the sidelines dong the same thing that the Patriots got pinched for he would pick it up. People are sending around these pictures asking people to do the legwork for them. It shouldn't be hard to figure out who the guy is and anyone on this board could figure it out with a few phone calls if they had the time and ambition.

Many journalists ran with the picture of the Jets personnel who was incorrectly identified as Matt Estrella. None of them took the time to confirm it was Estrella. Because if they did or at least watched the whole game and saw the guy still on the sidelines in the fourth quarter, they would never had ran with the story.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

Most 'journalists' would look like asses if it turned out that Mangini was doing exactly the same thing BB was doing. Exactly how hard do most people look for evidence proving that they've been a schmuck? I'm not following this photo stuff because it's too late for it to do any good for New England but, if it's true, it would be a nice "back at ya!" to Mangini.

This is what BLOGGERS are made for................. BLOGGERS are notorious for turning the MSM on its head. To the point that the MSM positively hates bloggers. Just ask Ran Rather

This story might be perfect for the blogsphere, cuz It’d be pretty easy to prove for a pro given the evidence provided, including with close up, credentials ect.

If any prominent bloggers took it yup and it hit the circuit, it could catch like wild fire simply because of the rank hypocrisy on the non-coverage by the MSM and the hypocrisy of the NFL for kicking one of its icons in the nuts.

Kinda like a twofer for them. Worth a shot.

 

[PatriotsReign]

LOLOLOLOL, obviously have no idea about journalism do you............. The business is ALL about chasing wild geese in the hopes that you catch one. They may not wanna chase this particular goose (and there could be many reasons for that), but entire business of "reporting" is running down leads that will hopefully uncover a story that you can push. Many leads go nowhere.

my particular belief for this story only receiving lukewarm interest............ The original story is far sexier with the image that BB, arguably the best coach ever, cheated his way to the top.

If this story suddenly got legs and the ACTUAL truth of the matter got out that this stuff happens ALL THE TIME and BB is not the only one doing it, it actually makes the initial story less appealing.

The fact that their skewed (and sometimes false) coverage tarnishes or ruins the legacy of a great coach? Well, that might be important to us, but it obviously is not important to them.

I am by no means an expert on journalism, but has anyone thought of 60 Minutes? They do some unexpected subjects every now & then...just a thought.

 

[Rob0729]

Most 'journalists' would look like asses if it turned out that Mangini was doing exactly the same thing BB was doing. Exactly how hard do most people look for evidence proving that they've been a schmuck? I'm not following this photo stuff because it's too late for it to do any good for New England but, if it's true, it would be a nice "back at ya!" to Mangini.

I wonder how fair and balanced most journalists will be when it comes to Mangini. Peter King begrudgily admitted to Dale and Holley that there is a backlash against Mangini, but clearly doesn't agree with it. If he wants to be a responsible journalist, he will put his story about the profanity filled tirade about Mangini by an unnamed coach in his Monday Morning Quarterback. My guess is that he won't though.

 

[JJDChE]

Many journalists ran with the picture of the Jets personnel who was incorrectly identified as Matt Estrella. None of them took the time to confirm it was Estrella. Because if they did or at least watched the whole game and saw the guy still on the sidelines in the fourth quarter, they would never had ran with the story.

That was already a story, right now the anonymous photographer is a non-story. If some source leaked that it was rumoured that the Jets also had a guy on the sidelines then the pictures on the site would be popping up everywhere.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

I don't think it's a lukewarm story at all, it's a hot story. The problem is that there is no story until it's confirmed. No evidence, therefore no reason for someone to follow up. If someone sent him information that definitively confirmed that a Jets team cameraman was illegally on the sidelines dong the same thing that the Patriots got pinched for he would pick it up. People are sending around these pictures asking people to do the legwork for them. It shouldn't be hard to figure out who the guy is and anyone on this board could figure it out with a few phone calls if they had the time and ambition.

But it's like a tiger eating its young........... They're having such fun with the main story, why muddy the waters of the initial story with the "everybody does it" angle........... cuz then the average Joe says "Oh, it not that big of a deal then" ................. and moves along.

It much sexier (from a news perspective) to just say ""BB is a CHEATER, and all those rings are cuz he films defensive snaps" This story actual takes away from the main one.


I agree on the confirmation, that why I (actually I think most of us) have said there is nothing at this point to say the JETS did anything at this point. We have a series of SUSPICIOUS stills from the game showing at least 2 video folks that do not appear to in the appropriate gear/credentials and it's quite possible they work for the Jets, cuz 1 of them has been confirmed to be videotaping 3 seperate JET games (2 at home, one in Philly) this year.

The thing is, we aren't plugged into the network of resources they are. A news reporter could simple make a call or two and get a photo of the credential, or email a copy of the picture to colleague in NY who could confirm "Oh yeah, the Jimmy the JET, who works for them" or "No NFL Nick, he works for the league".