Whatever the penalty, does the NFL have any idea what it's created?

[Pedrorocks458]

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You are more then likely right. but we do not know if it helped the Pats or not.

Kicked our ass fair and square, I don't think so, neither does the Commish of the NFL.

Explain how it helped us to have a videotape in a sealed NFL box. Please.

 

[Gunnails]

You are right, it wasn't fair for the Jest. It wasn't fair that they did nothing in the off season to improve. It wasn't fair that they are in the same division as the Patriots. It wasn't fair for the Jest the moment the Patriots stepped on the field.

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What are 12 years old, my team gets cheated on and that some how means I and my team deserves ridicule.

Bite me

 

[Gunnails]

Explain how it helped us to have a videotape in a sealed NFL box. Please.

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Maybe you should ask BB that.

 

[Pedrorocks458]

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Maybe you should ask BB that.

Why? He would say it isn't.

 

[Gunnails]

Why? He would say it isn't.

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OK, I am starting to calm down.

Sorry to pile on you guys,

 

[Pedrorocks458]

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OK, I am starting to calm down.

Sorry to pile on you guys,

Is that a Tom Brady quote to the Jets from last game? Please attribute it to its source.

 

[Gunnails]

Is that a Tom Brady quote to the Jets from last game? Please attribute it to its source.

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LOL, thanks I needed the laugh.

 

[wdkantro2]

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Hey Goodell is obviosly of the oppinion that this is a serious rule infraction that has created at least at times an unfair advantage for the Pats.

I don't buy that everyone does what the Pats are doing, maybe I am naive.

The thing is I am waiting for the other shoe to drop, there is more going on here then I am aware of. I think there is something going to be said about radio signals in the near future.

Sure I may be naive, an I am really pissed that the Jets got there ass handed to them in a game that might of been of been skewed due to the Pats cheating.

This makes me very mad.

I disagree about Goodell. It is all about his perception and the perception of the league. He has to come down hard because the people who watch the games think it's a big deal.
And no, the game was not skewed. The cameraman was kicked out with the camera before he ever would have gotten a chance to tell the coaches anything. You actually should be happy that this has taken all the emphasis off how much the Pats embarrassed the Jets.

 

[Gunnails]

I disagree about Goodell. It is all about his perception and the perception of the league. He has to come down hard because the people who watch the games think it's a big deal.
And no, the game was not skewed. The cameraman was kicked out with the camera before he ever would have gotten a chance to tell the coaches anything. You actually should be happy that this has taken all the emphasis off how much the Pats embarrassed the Jets.

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No I am not happy about any of this.

 

[Fahrenhype]

Yeah it could be used as motivation, but really, why would people like ADT or Randy Moss need to feel motivated by it? There's been a lot of new faces on the roster lately, they've got nothing to do with whatever Belichick's schemes were. I definitely see people like Vrabel, Bruschi, etc. getting fired up though because their talents are being disregarded by the people saying everything they won is fraudulent.

 

[JoePats]

Explain how it helped us to have a videotape in a sealed NFL box. Please.

That's totally irrelevant...What is relevant is the tape exists.

 

[Pats726]

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Hey Goodell is obviosly of the oppinion that this is a serious rule infraction that has created at least at times an unfair advantage for the Pats.

I don't buy that everyone does what the Pats are doing, maybe I am naive.

The thing is I am waiting for the other shoe to drop, there is more going on here then I am aware of. I think there is something going to be said about radio signals in the near future.

Sure I may be naive, an I am really pissed that the Jets got there ass handed to them in a game that might of been of been skewed due to the Pats cheating.

This makes me very mad.

Firstly explain HOW that happened??? The video was confiscated before half time... so pea brain.. how was their cheating?? And because of all this on BB, mangini will be looked at more..first as a rat fink..then as a total scum for turning on the person that gave him a break and an opportunity and then as someone who profited by teh cheater and maybe NAMED head coach when he should not have..bad move for him...

 

[Pedrorocks458]

That's totally irrelevant...What is relevant is the tape exists.

Read previous posts please. The relevance in question is to whether it helped the Pats win the game on Sunday. Do you think it did, locked up as it was in an NFL box? Maybe you can explain how to me.

 

[JoePats]

Read previous posts please. The relevance in question is to whether it helped the Pats win the game on Sunday. Do you think it did, locked up as it was in an NFL box? Maybe you can explain how to me.

Ok then my mistake, but just because the tape didn't help the Pats on Sunday doesn't make the action any less wrong.

 

[Gunnails]

Firstly explain HOW that happened??? The video was confiscated before half time... so pea brain.. how was their cheating?? And because of all this on BB, mangini will be looked at more..first as a rat fink..then as a total scum for turning on the person that gave him a break and an opportunity and then as someone who profited by teh cheater and maybe NAMED head coach when he should not have..bad move for him...

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I do not know how the Pats would of profited from the tape even if they hadn't got caught.

Mangini is a hero, and he seems to be getting alot more support the Beli.

Spin it any way you want, the Jets and Mangini did nothing wrong

The Pats on the other hand??????????

 

[Pedrorocks458]

Ok then my mistake, but just because the tape didn't help the Pats on Sunday doesn't make the action any less wrong.

Never said it did. I apologize for snapping, I'm fighting a troll (which I shouldn't do in the first place) and it's testing my patience.

 

[Pedrorocks458]

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I do not know how the Pats would of profited from the tape even if they hadn't got caught.

Mangini is a hero, and he seems to be getting alot more support the Beli.

Spin it any way you want, the Jets and Mangini did nothing wrong

The Pats on the other hand??????????

We did something wrong. We did disturbing things to your entire roster on Sunday, without our videotape cheating. Wow, this team could be special since we just rode a videotape to our other championships.

 

[Pats726]

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I do not know how the Pats would of profited from the tape even if they hadn't got caught.

Mangini is a hero, and he seems to be getting alot more support the Beli.

Spin it any way you want, the Jets and Mangini did nothing wrong

The Pats on the other hand??????????

Mangini did nothing wrong???
If that is teh way you run your life I'd hate to have any kids raised as you as an example. But then again...examples like you who see NOTHINg wrong do not surprise me. Mangini will get his...karma will hit him quite hard..and frankly...when it does..I won't care at all. If he's a hero..I wouldn't be surprised if Benedict Arnold wasm't far behind...or Judas..

 

[Dr Pain]

Mangini did nothing wrong???
If that is teh way you run your life I'd hate to have any kids raised as you as an example. But then again...examples like you who see NOTHINg wrong do not surprise me. Mangini will get his...karma will hit him quite hard..and frankly...when it does..I won't care at all. If he's a hero..I wouldn't be surprised if Benedict Arnold wasm't far behind...or Judas..

Someone in the real media has to be willing to ask the question who this guy really is. He's standing right there amongst the entire Jets team. Someone has to know! I've emailed Florio. Please everyone keep harrassing anyone you can.

I got a response froom a media guy, they know who he the cameraman on the Jets sideline is and he works for the Jets. It had not occurred to them that they were doing the same thing since the photos show him aiming at the Jets while the Patriots offense was out. I told him to look at the film to see what he is shooting while the Patriots defense is out. Also that it is the same infraction the Jets did.


i think because they are press, they don't see anything wrong even though this is clearly against the rules. We don't know what he filmed as they didn't grab the film but that is not the point. That he is there is the same bad thing the Patriots did so the penalty would be the same. Stealing signals is not the infraction, its having the cameraman.

Mangini and the Jets should get the same punishment

 

[Gunnails]

Mangini did nothing wrong???
If that is teh way you run your life I'd hate to have any kids raised as you as an example. But then again...examples like you who see NOTHINg wrong do not surprise me. Mangini will get his...karma will hit him quite hard..and frankly...when it does..I won't care at all. If he's a hero..I wouldn't be surprised if Benedict Arnold wasm't far behind...or Judas..

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Mangini did nothing wrong.

the Pats brought this upon them selves.

You are in the denial/anger stage, next comes acceptance and depresion.

Best team of the decade, and then they pull a stunt like this, I truely feel sorry for the crap you guys are going to have to put up with.