Banks & King: definitely will lose first day pick, considering multiple game suspe...

[sebman2112]

Well this article says according to their sources BB might be suspended for 2-3 games and their sources claim the Patriots are very likely going to lose a first day pick, maybe even a first rounder. The important part of the article is this though...

NFL sources said league commissioner Roger Goodell has not yet decided Belichick's punishment, and that there are still several options, varying in severity, under consideration. Goodell is still expected to announce his decision on Friday, sources said.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/09/13/belichick/index.html

So in other words this is all still speculation....doesn't sound good at all though.

Edit: I changed my wording slightly, sorry.

 

[sebman2112]

Re: Banks & King: Likely lose first day pick BB might be suspended

Also this part might be at least somewhat useful....although I never thought they'd have to give the win back anyways.

"One disciplinary option ruled out by Goodell is the forfeiture of the Patriots' 38-14 win over the Jets on Sunday at Giants Stadium, a source said."

 

[mgteich]

Re: Banks & King: Likely lose first day pick BB might be suspended

This is as several have said for days. The Commissioner quickly had all he needed to determine guilt. The question was penalty. It seems that the team penalty has been decided (although there are varying estimates).

The open question, the one that has delayed a decision, SEEMS TO BE what did Belichick know and when did he know it?

I still don't think this punishment is for one event.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: Banks & King: Likely lose first day pick; BB might be suspended

This is a tough time for us, it hurts...No matter what happens the damage is unrepairable...

 

[sebman2112]

Re: Banks & King: definitely will lose first day pick, considering multiple game susp

I can't believe their really thinking about suspending for 2-3 games...If the commish is seriously thinking about that than he's most likely going to get at least a one game suspension. This entire thing is a lot of BS if you ask me, and frankly this has taken a tole on my feelings for the Commish, the league, and those pushing for such a penalty. I might even take a break from the NFL if this really goes through.

 

[Double G]

Re: Banks & King: definitely will lose first day pick, considering multiple game susp

If the end result of this is a 500,000.00 fine, a first and third round draft pick and a two to three game suspension with loss of wages for those two to three weeks, all I can say is there has to be something more going on here than just recording signs at the Jets game.

If there is nothing else going on, the punishment far, far exceeds the crime and the team will either rally around this and have a monster season, or things will go up in flames and the season will go down the toilet........................

 

[Brady to Brown]

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This is a tough time for us, it hurts.. No matter what happens the damage is unrepairable..

I agree. He was warned and he felt that he was above the rules.

The damage is huge.

Yet again today Belichick, when asked about the fans in all of this, said nothing. Perhaps this is the league taking him down a notch. I think he may need it.

 

[nowayback]

Re: Banks & King: definitely will lose first day pick, considering multiple game susp

whatever the punishment it is! they will get on and play...and i will be watching them just like before...and they will be winning again...and the refs will be making calls like in denver and indy...and polian willlbe thinking of new rules to stop the pats.

 

[BelichickFan]

Re: Banks & King: definitely will lose first day pick, considering multiple game susp

This entire thing is a lot of BS if you ask me, and frankly this has taken a tole on my feelings for the Commish, the league, and those pushing for such a penalty. I might even take a break from the NFL if this really goes through.

I feel the same way - not sure what I could do to take a break, though, I'm kind of stuck with it.

 

[spacecrime]

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This is a tough time for us, it hurts...No matter what happens the damage is unrepairable...

No damage is unrepairable. The glaciers scoured every bit of soil off of the Foxboro area and covered it in a mile-think sheet of ice. And look at it now: Patriot Place!

If Foxboro can recover from the glaciers, it can recover from BB being fined and losing a draft pick or two.

 

[BelichickFan]

Re: Banks & King: Likely lose first day pick; BB might be suspended

If Foxboro can recover from the glaciers, it can recover from BB being fined and losing a draft pick or two.

We can recover from the penalty - recovering from everyone calling it a Fake Dynasty is a little tougher.

 

[SVN]

Re: Banks & King: definitely will lose first day pick, considering multiple game susp

If the end result of this is a 500,000.00 fine, a first and third round draft pick and a two to three game suspension with loss of wages for those two to three weeks, all I can say is there has to be something more going on here than just recording signs at the Jets game.

If there is nothing else going on, the punishment far, far exceeds the crime and the team will either rally around this and have a monster season, or things will go up in flames and the season will go down the toilet........................

actually the punishment will exceed the crime because of the precedent goodell has set with pacman and the dallas coach and also because he is close to kraft. If he goes lenient it will a large hue and cry about kraft's influence.

 

[Keegs]

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No damage is unrepairable. The glaciers scoured every bit of soil off of the Foxboro area and covered it in a mile-think sheet of ice. And look at it now: Patriot Place!

If Foxboro can recover from the glaciers, it can recover from BB being fined and losing a draft pick or two.

But the glaciers and icebergs didn't videotape the soil and trees before it kicked their butts

 

[stcjones]

Re: Banks & King: definitely will lose first day pick, considering multiple game susp

If the end result of this is a 500,000.00 fine, a first and third round draft pick and a two to three game suspension with loss of wages for those two to three weeks, all I can say is there has to be something more going on here than just recording signs at the Jets game.

If there is nothing else going on, the punishment far, far exceeds the crime and the team will either rally around this and have a monster season, or things will go up in flames and the season will go down the toilet........................

If there is ANY MORE THAN recording signs......like all this radio frequency sh##, logorithms and all the other rumors flying around.....IF any of this is actually true, and the reason why these brutal punishments are happening......BB may have more to worry about than simply a suspension by the league....I think we may be looking for his termination with the team......This whole f#@king media witch hunt debacle....will set this organization back for years to come.....everytime they come up to the line of scrimmage...."Here come the cheating Patriots"......I feel like I am living in a f#)king nighmare.......

 

[stcjones]

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We can recover from the penalty - recovering from everyone calling it a Fake Dynasty is a little tougher.

Get ready to get in alot of fights boys........because all these fans of every other loser, piece of sh@# team is going to be riding your a##.......and getting in your face........get ready to use the f word and you together........If anyone tries to take away what this team has achieved the past 6-7 years, they are pathetic, sore a##ed losers.....

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Banks & King: Likely lose first day pick; BB might be suspended

Perhaps this is the league taking him down a notch. I think he may need it.

You sound like Felger in that you two think it is more important for a head coach to be likeable and socially pleasant than to be driven and obsessed with winning.

Lombari, Marchibroda, Landry, Parcells, Allen, these guys were all lacking is the social skills you and Felger seem to think are so important. Guys like Jimmy Johnson and Don Shula are okay now, but in their coaching days they would not fit your definition of how a coach should behave.

You can have Pete Carroll and Herm Edwards and all the touchy-feely coaches. Give me a guy whose only goal in life is to win football games.

 

[BelichickFan]

Re: Banks & King: Likely lose first day pick; BB might be suspended

Get ready to get in alot of fights boys........because all these fans of every other loser, piece of sh@# team is going to be riding your a##.......and getting in your face........get ready to use the f word and you together........If anyone tries to take away what this team has achieved the past 6-7 years, they are pathetic, sore a##ed losers.....

I just call them f*cking idiots and move along. Disobeying an instruction and being smashed by a guy who thinks he has something to prove does not equal cheating. Many are too stupid to understand that though.

 

[Robdude]

Re: Banks & King: Likely lose first day pick; BB might be suspended

We can recover from the penalty - recovering from everyone calling it a Fake Dynasty is a little tougher.

Another SuperBowl win in the next couple of years (or two! or three!) will fix anyone calling this a fake dynasty. winning solves many things. I know many people have made the same statement as you BelichickFan and i understand what you are saying but we know there is a GREAT team here and they will show all the wins have been earned

 

[dtbrks]

Re: Banks & King: Likely lose first day pick; BB might be suspended

Another SuperBowl win in the next couple of years (or two! or three!) will fix anyone calling this a fake dynasty. winning solves many things. I know many people have made the same statement as you BelichickFan and i understand what you are saying but we know there is a GREAT team here and they will show all the wins have been earned

While I agree with you, I think other teams will always think we cheat if BB is the coach, ASSUMING this penalty is true.

 

[jbb9s]

Re: Banks & King: definitely will lose first day pick, considering multiple game susp

I just don't understand this: if the teams change the signs every game, and the Mangini obviously knows how BB operates and he is using alternate signs anyways in the first place, how in the heck would taping help the Patriots during their next matchup? If they are trying to steal realtime for this game in progress, why the use of video camera - why not just watch with binoculars?