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Carucci: Manning is now a better QB than Brady after Saints game


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First of all, who gives a crap? Secondly, Manning IS better than Brady. Brady's the better leader, better in the clutch, whatever, but Manning is PHENOMENAL, for lots of reasons. I love Brady, I prefer Brady, but you guys saying it's "ridiculous" that arguably THE best QB in the history of football is better than Tom Brady - it makes you look wild-eyed and out of touch. Relax. Our guy's good, too.

Brady's the 1b to Manning's 1a, but I think Manning's the better QB as well. Still, let's wait for their enshrinement ceremonies before we see their legacies (Brady could go crazy and win 4 more Super Bowls and 4 NFL MVPs, Manning could tear every ligament in his throwing shoulder this week in practice).
 
First of all, who gives a crap? Secondly, Manning IS better than Brady. Brady's the better leader, better in the clutch, whatever, but Manning is PHENOMENAL, for lots of reasons. I love Brady, I prefer Brady, but you guys saying it's "ridiculous" that arguably THE best QB in the history of football is better than Tom Brady - it makes you look wild-eyed and out of touch. Relax. Our guy's good, too.

I think the ridiculous was in reference to one game changing Carucci's mind. Afterall, they've been in the league for 15+ years combined. One game, the first game of the season mind you, shouldn't change much. I think Manning is phenomenal, but I'd like to see Brady have a Harrison and Wayne to throw to for 8-10 years. Hopefully this year he'll have something like that.
 
Brady's the 1b to Manning's 1a, but I think Manning's the better QB as well. Still, let's wait for their enshrinement ceremonies before we see their legacies (Brady could go crazy and win 4 more Super Bowls and 4 NFL MVPs, Manning could tear every ligament in his throwing shoulder this week in practice).

Who would you take, Marino or Montana?
 
Probably Marino

Where would Montana be without Walsh?
 
The big difference between Brady and Manning is Manning has had stability at WR. Brady has won 3 Super Bowls with far less talent and hardly ever the same pass catchers around. He started to develope that with Branch as Branch totaled close to 21 catches in only TWO Super Bowl appearances. Now imagine Tom Brady still playing with Givens and Branch at wideout going into last seasons AFCCG. It would have been Super Bowl win #4 easily in my opinion.
They need to stop screwing the guy over and give him steady WR's to work with. The way it's going now Tom will have different WR's AGAIN next season. I'd be pissed off if I were him. Mostly all those deals are for one freakin year.

THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE so don't expect huge fireworks from Brady because it will take time to get to know Stallworth, Moss and Welker. Manning has had that luxury for seasons now with Wayne and Harrison.
 
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Probably Marino

Where would Montana be without Walsh?


Making the Pro Bowl for the Chiefs in his second to last season after guiding his team to an 11-5 record and getting his new team to the AFC Championship game in his first season as the team's quarterback.
 
This is like comparing Terry Bradshaw to Dan Marino....Dan was the better quarterback "statistically" but Terry had the Rings. I'ld rather have the rings!!!!
 
but if you put thoose QB's with rings with other teams to start their career, you can't guarentee they would have as many rings or any rings at all
 
Brady has won 3 Super Bowls with far less talent

It bugs me when people use Super Bowls as the measuring stick for a QB. Football is a team sport. Its not golf. Yes Manning has had better receivers than Brady, but until last year's play-offs, the Colts have had absolutely no defense, were consistently out-coached by the Patriots, and it was entirely incumbent upon Manning and the offense to carry the team. The Patriot's Super Bowls were won with execution on offense, defense, special teams and coaching. Yes Brady was a huge contributor to these Super Bowl victories, arguably event the biggest, but that doesn't make him a better QB than Peyton Manning.
 
It bugs me when people use Super Bowls as the measuring stick for a QB. Football is a team sport. Its not golf. Yes Manning has had better receivers than Brady, but until last year's play-offs, the Colts have had absolutely no defense, were consistently out-coached by the Patriots, and it was entirely incumbent upon Manning and the offense to carry the team. The Patriot's Super Bowls were won with execution on offense, defense, special teams and coaching. Yes Brady was a huge contributor to these Super Bowl victories, arguably event the biggest, but that doesn't make him a better QB than Peyton Manning.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=261

Obviously, it's not fully updated, but it should be enough to make the point. Blaming the defense of the Colts is simply inaccurate.
 
That is real funny it's fine keep stirring that pot for Tom to have something to prove as if having 3 championships under his belt just going into his prime, wasn't enough.
Sometimes I think the organization instructs the media to be this stupid to always keep that fire lit in Brady's heart.
 
Manning has surpassed Brady over the last 2 years...easily. Manning is in complete control of his offense, is more accurate, and hits his WRs in stride. Brady has been underthrowing his targets, throwing behind them, and throwing that once-a-game pick in the endzone. Just look at the Pats losses and you will see a sorry statline with multiple picks. Tommy is great...and has been great...but Manning has been playing some of the best QB in the history of the NFL.
 
Scanning through all this, it finally crystallized exactly how I feel:

I do not care who is better. Honestly, could not care less.

Brady is amazing. Manning is spectacular. They're both first-ballot hall of famers, both among the best QBs the game has ever seen. Fans of both teams are blessed and will be talking about these guys to their children and grandchildren.

We'll never know what Brady would have done as a Colt or what Manning would have done as a Patriot. Who cares??? We know what they've done with the hands they've been dealt, which is plenty. So I am officially refusing to waste one single brain cell on this question. (I'm short on brain cells as it is.)

That is all. Carry on. :)
 
When all is said and done.....

Brady is the football equavilent of Bill Russell.

Manning is Wilt Chamberlin.

Both great both HOF players, I know who I want on MY team though.....
 
As if the media ever really argued that Brady was better even before Manning won his Superbowl. Please. As far as the media has been concerned, it's been Manning, Manning, Manning....when we were winning the Superbowls, and when we didn't.
 
When all is said and done.....

Brady is the football equavilent of Bill Russell.

Manning is Wilt Chamberlin.

Both great both HOF players, I know who I want on MY team though.....
GREAT friggin analogy!
That's right on...I wish I had come up with that. Can I use it at the gameday party tomorrow?
 
As if the media ever really argued that Brady was better even before Manning won his Superbowl. Please. As far as the media has been concerned, it's been Manning, Manning, Manning....when we were winning the Superbowls, and when we didn't.

I think Manning is a better QB than Brady. So what? Without the team around
them neither one would succeed. But, on skill and ability, I'll take Manning over
Brady. I just think he is better, not lots better, but better. Brady seems to have
lost a little bit on his fastball over the past year. For what reason, I don't know.
May be due to his crappy receivers, Matt "The Human Turnstyle" Light, or his
screwed up personal life. His game doesn't seem to be improving.
 
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