Rivers back...LB Herron claimed off waivers [merged]

[Pats726]

Per Reiss...I am happy he is back....Rivers is good.. Herron?? Hmmmm not bad.

 

[Pats726]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

From the draft insiders.......

The good: Herron improved steadily after starting his career at fullback. He is a dedicated worker on and off the field and he puts forth fine effort in every game. Herron became more instinctive late in his college career, reading plays better which allowed him to use his good athleticism. Though his speed is somewhat straight line, he can make stops outside the tackle box and cover in the shorter zones. He can take on blockers and is strong at the point of attack, displaying fine technique and good functional strength. He has good speed and is a solid all-around athlete with the intangibles to make the grade as a top-flight special-teams performer.

The bad: He is not a natural lateral mover and he will struggle when asked to break down and tackle in the open field. He does show some change-of-direction skills in coverage, but he is mainly a two-down defender. In pass coverage, he does not have good hip flex when dropping in coverage, but he is adequate in the short zones.

The skinny: Herron is a hard-nosed kid who can fill a few roles and has the athleticism to surprise in time, and he could eventually start inside. He will be a solid special-teams guy, and a good late pick or priority free agent with upside in a 3-4 defense.

Good..another special teamer..might be a player in time..
I think the fact that Rivers is back certainly means that possibly Brady and/or Thomas are NOT really ready to go. I thought he had a good preseason and was a bit surprised about the cut. Glad he is back.

 

[PonyExpress]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Isn't Herron supposed to play Fullback?

 

[psychoPat]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Stan, you are a godsend ... no, a geiger counter ...
to those of us so weak-minded as to get caught up in all this mischigas.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Per Reiss...I am happy he is back....Rivers is good.. Herron?? Hmmmm not bad.

Herron? We cut our fourth round pick LB and claimed an UDFA LB? Does that make sense to anyone? I'm sure BB/SP has a reason - I'm just looking for it.

Isn't Herron supposed to play Fullback?

That's Mack Herron, I think.

 

[Pats726]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Isn't Herron supposed to play Fullback?

He played fullback in college for a year I believe but was converted to ILB...I know some had him in the top 25 ILBs this year...

 

[Pats726]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Herron? We cut our fourth round pick LB and claimed an UDFA LB? Does that make sense to anyone? I'm sure BB/SP has a reason - I'm just looking for it.

That's Mack Herron, I think.

No...he did play fullback in college..BEFORE ILB. Not sure what it means..why keep 2 spots open and then bring a player back and...then a UDFA linebacker. He seems like a special teamer..but??? Not sure what the deal was in getting down 2 for these players..I agree. Maybe other things were in the works...other avenues that were dead ends..deals not made. I think in the case of Rivers, it might have been one of timing..maybe information NOT KNOWN yesterday found out today. (obviously about Thomas or Brady or both) That is the only thing I can think of.. Herron?? Not really sure...esp when they also have Mays who knows the system.

 

[BelichickFan]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

We cut our fourth round pick LB

Rogers was a 6th round pick.

 

[marcus]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Hard to understand why they would let Rogers go and take this guy instead.

I suspect the Patriots did not think any team would claim Rogers and were taken by surprise when the Cowboys did.

There is NO doubt that the Patriots have to develop some non special teams linebackers given the ages of Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, Seau.

 

[pats1]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Isn't Herron supposed to play Fullback?

That's Noah Herron, who was just IR'd by the Packers.

 

[Pats726]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

The only thing I am thinking is they will use Herron as a blocking back...ala Hochstein as he is still injured...he's played fullback...so???

 

[cloud34]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Supposedly, Belichick was going to get revenge for Minny signing Mills. Herron is the revenge..

 

[Wotan_the_Wanderer]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

There is NO doubt that the Patriots have to develop some non special teams linebackers given the ages of Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, Seau.

Agree with the sentiment, and I think that's precisely what they've been doing with Alexander, Woods, Tully (prior to his departure), Mayes, Lua and now Herron. Also, since Colvin appears on the list, AD also needs to be put on the list considering he turned 30 two weeks ago. Rosey will turn 30 this week. Barring major injuries though, I think both will be great playmakers for the next three years at the least.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Rearranging the deck chairs at backup LB? Somebody else's free agent. Yawn.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/ ....link.

 

[mgteich]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

OK, Rivers makes sense. bb gave him a chance to look around and then brought him back. He is a solid blocking TE. I'm glad he's on the team.

With all due respect, Dave Herron makes no sense. He is an small undrafted ILB that spent the preseason playing a 43 OLB for Minny. Can he really be better on ST and as a emergency backup than Mays? He doesn't know our system. This makes little sense, unless he is simply being given a quick Practice Squad tryout for a few days or a couple of weeks.

 

[RayClay]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Supposedly, Belichick was going to get revenge for Minny signing Mills. Herron is the revenge..

Huh? .................

 

[Pats726]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Huh? .................

Mills was signed off waivers By Minn...the Patriots signing Herron is revenge...IT IS possible..but I don't know about probable..

 

[moosekill]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

Hard to understand why they would let Rogers go and take this guy instead.

I suspect the Patriots did not think any team would claim Rogers and were taken by surprise when the Cowboys did.

There is NO doubt that the Patriots have to develop some non special teams linebackers given the ages of Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, Seau.

Perhaps it was because the coaches had a player that wasn't good enough to play for them so they cut him. They then found another linebacker that was cut by another team who was better, and they signed him. Jeez, you guys watch a player make a couple plays against 3rd stringers in preseason games and you think he is going to be a starter. The coaches didn't think he was good, so they cut him. They found someone who they thought was better and they picked him up. No getting even no mistakes, after watching him for a couple months they new he wasn't good enough to make the team, so they cut him.

 

[wcda]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

I think the only reason that Rivers was cut was because they had plans for Mills but when the Vikes grabbed Mills they resigned him.

 

[Pats726]

Re: Rivers back...LB Herron cllaimed off waivers

I think the only reason that Rivers was cut was because they had plans for Mills but when the Vikes grabbed Mills they resigned him.

If they had plans for Mills...why did they cut him?? They were 2 under the limit...so??? Makes no sense...