Schefter: Asante got conditional guarantee he won't be franchised

[SeanBruschi54]

PATHETIC. CAVE. DISGUSTING. I don't believe it.

Who said they caved? From everything ive read its seemed like he asked not to be Franchised again after he signed the tender.

 

[SoonerPatriot]

I'd have told him to sit his ass out until week 10.

And the defense would have suffered. Thank God BB is in charge.

 

[patsox23]

Probably because they weren't so confident with the secondary personnel that they already had.

I have a hard time believing this. The secondary is better than it's been in some years when we won the Super Bowl, and Asante had NO GROUND here, no leverage whatsoever. This is HORSECRAP.

 

[drakesta101]

So does Tomase's article about Asante getting "beat deep" get any heat?

 

[Gunnails]

PATHETIC. CAVE. DISGUSTING. I don't believe it.

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Hey it is a copy cat league, not surprised at all that he gets a similar deal to Briggs.
I wouldn't consider it caving in, if he plays well the Pats will work out a long term deal in the offseason, if not they can let him go.
Seems fair all around, considering what he could of made on the FA market.

 

[Pats Fanatic]

Were is Schefter getting the info from the Patriots or the agent.

 

[BelichickFan]

And the defense would have suffered. Thank God BB is in charge.

Well Belichick was in charge last year and they could have made the same deal with Branch. If it's me I let him sit until Week 10, Franchise and trade him; probably getting a #1 pick. We still have him for the last 1/3 of the regular season, the playoffs and then can get something for him and control where he goes.

How about if he goes to the Jets next year for nothing ? Are the 10 games worth losing that control ?

 

[drakesta101]

I guess one good thing is that the win total stipulation is likely in double digits...so let's say its 12 wins....maybe they win 11, win the east, asante can be tagged.....Me, I'd much rather go 16-0

 

[patsox23]

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Hey it is a copy cat league, not surprised at all that he gets a similar deal to Briggs.
I wouldn't consider it caving in, if he plays well the Pats will work out a long term deal in the offseason, if not they can let him go.
Seems fair all around, considering what he could of made on the FA market.

What are you talking about? We can't franchise him and trade him for a #1. This is an okay outcome for you, given the FACT that the Patriots had all kinds of leverage here? That Asante was, what, gonna BACK OUT and fly home and not collect nearly half a mill every week for ten weeks?

Good CHRIST, if they did this I'll be shocked. A PUTRID, terrible move mainly because it's COMPLETELY unnecessary.

 

[Jimke]

I have a hard time believing this. The secondary is better than it's been in some years when we won the Super Bowl, and Asante had NO GROUND here, no leverage whatsoever. This is HORSECRAP.

The secondary the last 2 years we won the Superbowl was pretty

good until the injuries began to occur. This year's secondary includes

a washed up Tory James and an oft injured Randall Gay. Even if Gay

has a good, healthy year, he has New York Jet tattooed on his

forehead for next year.

 

[BelichickFan]

I guess one good thing is that the win total stipulation is likely in double digits...so let's say its 12 wins....maybe they win 11, win the east, asante can be tagged.....Me, I'd much rather go 16-0

If the condition was : Win the Super Bowl, we won't tag you - I'd be fine with that as we'd get the big one again. Some regular season win total or snaps played ? No thanks.

Now, if there's a mutual condition - we won't tag you but you can't sign with an AFC East team - that would be a little better.

 

[patsox23]

The only way I can see this being true is if it's something ridiculous like winning 16 games - this would enable Asante to claim, truthfully, that he got some concession, without the Pats giving much up. Otherwise, it's a ridiculously STUPID move by an F.O. that is hardly ever stupid, ridiculously so or otherwise.

 

[drakesta101]

If the condition was : Win the Super Bowl, we won't tag you - I'd be fine with that as we'd get the big one again. Some regular season win total or snaps played ? No thanks.

Now, if there's a mutual condition - we won't tag you but you can't sign with an AFC East team - that would be a little better.

If they took it straight from vegas it's 11.5 games

 

[drakesta101]

The only way I can see this being true is if it's something ridiculous like winning 16 games - this would enable Asante to claim, truthfully, that he got some concession, without the Pats giving much up. Otherwise, it's a ridiculously STUPID move by an F.O. that is hardly ever stupid, ridiculously so or otherwise.

16?! That's just wishful thinking. I would be pretty happy if they retained the right to match any offer.

 

[zippo59]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that two CBs have already been lost and the season hasn't even started yet.

Both sides were being hurt from the stand still. It's a compromise and is in everybody's best interest.

 

[Slagathor]

I may be looking at this all wrong but here's the way I see it.

Give Asante the deal he wants regarding the franchise tag, stipulations attached.

You shore up a secondary which I think looks decent this year and provides you a legitimate shot to win it all.

Next year, Asante meets all his goals and signs the big deal he's looking for elsewhere.

Where does that leave you in 2008? Well, you have Randall Gay who's looked pretty damn good, plus allows you tons of cap space to extend Vince Wilfork.

Just trying to look at things positively.

Would have rather kept the tag available for next year but who the hell knows what goes on behind the scenes.

 

[drakesta101]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that two CBs have already been lost and the season hasn't even started yet.

Both sides were being hurt from the stand still. It's a compromise and is in everybody's best interest.

Agreed.....

 

[bbabin]

If this report is indeed true, I can't help but imagine that there's something going on that we don't know about. The Pats organization is not stupid enough to offer anything if AS had absolutely no leverage. It's possible that Samuel really would have stayed out for ten games and flew up only as a gesture of good faith. Who knows? Not me, and we probably will never know what really went on. We'll see next year if he's franchised or not...

 

[amazinPats]

I wonder if the report is true. Seems as if the Pats' organization didn't have to give up their option for another franchise tag. On the other hand, getting a likely 3rd round compensatory pick for the loss of Asante to free agency isn't such a bad thing either. But getting a likely 1st rounder in a trade would be even better.

If the report is true, I can only surmise that the team expects to sign Asante to a longterm contract at the end of the season. Does anybody know whether they are able to extend him during the 2007-08 season?

BTW, I am sure that the deal was agreed upon before Asante stepped on that airplane to Boston.

 

[drakesta101]

anybody know whether they are able to extend him during the 2007-08 season?

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They are not allowed to discuss an extension, but I'm sure if they really wanted to get it done they could discuss it and what not without making it known.