PFT embarrasses ESPN's reporting of Vick

[QuiGon]

After reading PFT, I think ESPN should be ashamed of themselves. The PFT guy is a lawyer and clearly knows a hack of a lot more about what is going on than the hacks at ESPN.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

VICK ADMITS EVERYTHING

We've reviewed in detail the plea agreement signed by Michael Vick on Thursday, along with the statement of facts.

Notwithstanding the anonymous source who told the anonymous reporter at ESPN that Vick would not admit to killing dogs or to gambling, Vick admits to everything.

 

[patriot lifer]

espn, put thine foot into thine mouth

 

[TeamPats]

After reading PFT, I think ESPN should be ashamed of themselves. The PFT guy is a lawyer and clearly knows a hack of a lot more about what is going on than the hacks at ESPN.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

VICK ADMITS EVERYTHING

We've reviewed in detail the plea agreement signed by Michael Vick on Thursday, along with the statement of facts.

Notwithstanding the anonymous source who told the anonymous reporter at ESPN that Vick would not admit to killing dogs or to gambling, Vick admits to everything.

PFT really has used this Vick case to launch its image, I have noticed that the mainstream references them quite often concerning this case. I love PFT but I worry that it no longer will be an underground website that can post whatever they think with little consequences.

 

[QuiGon]

espn, put thine foot into thine mouth

That PFT guy is clearly much more knowledgeable than them... I trust his news and analysis more than I do their's...

 

[patriot lifer]

That PFT guy is clearly much more knowledgeable than them... I trust his news and analysis more than I do their's...

and I like Florio's videos and "The All Seinfeld Team."

Mike Tice: David Puddy
Herm Edwards: Jackie Chiles.

priceless.

 

[ClevTrev]

and I like Florio's videos and "The All Seinfeld Team."

Mike Tice: David Puddy
Herm Edwards: Jackie Chiles.

priceless.

It doesn't take much, but that just made my day!

 

[patriot lifer]

It doesn't take much, but that just made my day!

for all those out there who are too lazy to search for it.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/All-SeinfeldTeam.htm

 

[goalkeepr]

The plea agreement is here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0824071vick1.html

 

[Rob0729]

Well, the Feds pretty much delivered a slam dunk case of animal cruelty charges for Poindexter, the Virginia prosecutor. I think Vick could be facing some more serious jail time. If he is convicted for killing 8 dogs, he can get 40 years by the state. I assume his plea in federal court is admissible in the state trial. Considering he admits guilt to the charges he would be on trial for, I don't know how he could weasle out of that one.

I really think we may have seen the last of Michael Vick.

 

[borg]

PFT really has used this Vick case to launch its image, I have noticed that the mainstream references them quite often concerning this case. I love PFT but I worry that it no longer will be an underground website that can post whatever they think with little consequences.

Having read PFT multiple times each day over the past few years, what I've noticed is that Florio no longer needs to float crazy ideas that may or may not end up being true. His sources apparently have expanded to the point where his word is being treated as gospel. I've given up reading any media source that is in bed with a particular league. ESPN and the NFL Network serve only as a propaganda extension for the NFL. Mainstream sports writers have climbed so deep into bed with their subjects that unbiased reporting does not exist as we once knew it. I'll take PFT as my source for NFL info...and if he happens to get the story wrong, at least he is entertaining. Can't wait till he discloses who bought Vick's house.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I am very happy to live in a time where the media is diverse. No longer must we regard our one or two sources as gospel. We've seen their clay feet.

 

[patriot lifer]

Having read PFT multiple times each day over the past few years, what I've noticed is that Florio no longer needs to float crazy ideas that may or may not end up being true. His sources apparently have expanded to the point where his word is being treated as gospel. I've given up reading any media source that is in bed with a particular league. ESPN and the NFL Network serve only as a propaganda extension for the NFL. Mainstream sports writers have climbed so deep into bed with their subjects that unbiased reporting does not exist as we once knew it. I'll take PFT as my source for NFL info...and if he happens to get the story wrong, at least he is entertaining. Can't wait till he discloses who bought Vick's house.

until Newscorp buys pft. darn you rupert murdoch!

 

[TomBradyWoot]

Having read PFT multiple times each day over the past few years, what I've noticed is that Florio no longer needs to float crazy ideas that may or may not end up being true. His sources apparently have expanded to the point where his word is being treated as gospel. I've given up reading any media source that is in bed with a particular league. ESPN and the NFL Network serve only as a propaganda extension for the NFL. Mainstream sports writers have climbed so deep into bed with their subjects that unbiased reporting does not exist as we once knew it. I'll take PFT as my source for NFL info...and if he happens to get the story wrong, at least he is entertaining. Can't wait till he discloses who bought Vick's house.

I think he should disclose it now. Thats what made PFT great to begin with, getting news before anyone else.

 

[SoonerPatriot]

And what's embarassing about PFT is through all of this Vick hullabaloo I can't find the Wednesday, Thursday or Friday morning one liners anywhere on the site. Highly annoying.

 

[Deus Irae]

And what's embarassing about PFT is through all of this Vick hullabaloo I can't find the Wednesday, Thursday or Friday morning one liners anywhere on the site. Highly annoying.

Florio has gotten too busy telling everyone exactly what their reaction should be about every aspect of every occurrence to keep up with his job.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Florio has gotten too busy telling everyone exactly what their reaction should be about every aspect of every occurrence to keep up with his job.

But he's doing that as a public service. Most of us internet geeks get so wound up at the first blush of news we spent the next two weeks missing whatever else is going on so we can continue arguing about what really already happened.

I just listened to Roger Kossack on ESPN Radio beside himself trying to correct the impression that the hosts were intent on making that this was a good deal for Vick. Kossack said in wrapping it up Vick pled guilty to gambling and killing dogs. The wildcard that remains is he agreed to become a "snitch" for the Feds on dog fighting. That might lead to a delay in his sentencing to see what he delivers, if anything, and he could theoretically end up serving his sentence on home detention if he delivers on some big rings.

Of course, keepin' it real, the downside is he may have to go into witness protection by the time he gets his sentence reduced...

 

[Deus Irae]

But he's doing that as a public service. Most of us internet geeks get so wound up at the first blush of news we spent the next two weeks missing whatever else is going on so we can continue arguing about what really already happened.

I just listened to Roger Kossack on ESPN Radio beside himself trying to correct the impression that the hosts were intent on making that this was a good deal for Vick. Kossack said in wrapping it up Vick pled guilty to gambling and killing dogs. Thw wildcard that remains is he agreed to become a "snitch" for the Feds on dog fighting. That might lead to a delay in his sentencing to see what he delivers, if anything, and he could theoretically end up service his sentence on home detention if he delivers on some big rings.

Of course, keepin' it real, the downside is he may have to go into witness protection by the time he gets his sentence reduced...

But let's be real. Do you really give a **** what Florio thinks about sufficiency of Vick's plea statement on the "rumor mill" page?

 

[mtbykr]

Well, the Feds pretty much delivered a slam dunk case of animal cruelty charges for Poindexter, the Virginia prosecutor. I think Vick could be facing some more serious jail time. If he is convicted for killing 8 dogs, he can get 40 years by the state. I assume his plea in federal court is admissible in the state trial. Considering he admits guilt to the charges he would be on trial for, I don't know how he could weasle out of that one.

I really think we may have seen the last of Michael Vick.

yes it is...if all this is true mr vick will be going away for a long time

 

[DaBruinz]

Well, the Feds pretty much delivered a slam dunk case of animal cruelty charges for Poindexter, the Virginia prosecutor. I think Vick could be facing some more serious jail time. If he is convicted for killing 8 dogs, he can get 40 years by the state. I assume his plea in federal court is admissible in the state trial. Considering he admits guilt to the charges he would be on trial for, I don't know how he could weasle out of that one.

I really think we may have seen the last of Michael Vick.

This is the same Poindexter who dragged his feet and wasn't planning on filing charges against Vick. The same Poindexter whose inactivity forced the Feds to step in.

I don't see Poindexter filing anything unless he feels some heat from inside the Virginia government.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

This is the same Poindexter who dragged his feet and wasn't planning on filing charges against Vick. The same Poindexter whose inactivity forced the Feds to step in.

I don't see Poindexter filing anything unless he feels some heat from inside the Virginia government.

Absolutely agree. I would be shocked if that Vick synchophant and enabler filed any substantive charges against Vick. As you said, it was his non-response that led to the Feds steping in and actually doing something.