Is Ty Law happy now???

[ClevTrev]

Watching the Saints dismantle the Chiefs last night and looking at the kind of season the Chiefs are facing as the team starts to deteriorate, I couldn't help but wonder that if he knew this would happen, what would Ty Law have done years ago when he had the opportunity to re-sign with the Pats???

As I recall, they made him a fairly generous offer at the time, but he turned them down only to later indicate before he left the team for good that if the same offer was on the table, he'd remain a Patriot. I believe I have this correct.

The question now is whether Ty is truly happy with his place in KC or does he wish deep down that he'd like to be back in the fray with his friends and teammates vying for the playoffs. As many observed, his HOF chances were diminished once he moved away from the Patriots. He certainly will no longer be in the headlines with his current team.

Thoughts?

 

[patsox23]

No, I believe the question is, "HOW HARD AM I F-ing LAUGHING?" ONCE AGAIN a professional athlete finds out the hard way that money - especially at this level - isn't everything. Hope you're having fun, Ty. So much for the HOF, huh?

 

[Phokus]

maybe he can pull a rod woodson and turn into a safety and come back to us after harrison retires!

 

[scout]

Too bad for both parties, as he could have made the difference in one or two more championships as we were hurting so bad in the defensive backfield. If he played halfway close to his previous healthy years we probably wouldn't be looking at Manning gracing every magazine cover.

 

[psychoPat]

Too bad for both parties, as he could have made the difference in one or two more championships as we were hurting so bad in the defensive backfield. If he played halfway close to his previous healthy years we probably wouldn't be looking at Manning gracing every magazine cover.

If Law had been here, at his multi-millions cap cost
... who else would not have been here?

 

[LloydBraun]

He may not admit it now, but one day he will definitely regret and wonder, "what if...".

The Hall of Fame issue, if it plays out that way, which is likely, will stick with him forever.

Asante should look at Ty's situation and realize greed isn't such a good thing.

 

[Jimke]

Let's face reality. Money is everything to most professional football players.

For every Ty Warren, Matt Light, Dan Koppen, and Tom Brady; there are

ten Deon Branches, David Givens, Daniel Grahams, Damien Woodys, and

Ty Laws. Show them the money. Championships don't feed their families.

 

[BradyManny]

The question now is whether Ty is truly happy with his place in KC or does he wish deep down that he'd like to be back in the fray with his friends and teammates vying for the playoffs. As many observed, his HOF chances were diminished once he moved away from the Patriots. He certainly will no longer be in the headlines with his current team.

Thoughts?

I often think about how disappointing it was that Law chose not to come back when he had a chance. He was always one of my favorite Patriot players throughout his career and I can remember following him since his days at Michigan.

I hope that he regrets his decision, b/c he should. It was a very stupid one considering the point in his career he was at.

 

[LloydBraun]

I wonder if anyone has the exact dollar amount he has gained in the past few years by playing in NY and KC instead of here.

This amount would be salaries earned compared to alleged salaries offered by NE, playoff $$, etc.

Thanks in advance for that info.

Maybe it's just me, but I would would choose personal success, playing with close teammates and a lot of money over less success and more money.

But, I tend to side with the Koppen and Warren attitudes as opposed to the greedy types.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

I think that Ty wanted to play for Herm, more than anything else. His coaching abilitites aside, Herm seems to be a great guy, and you have a hard time finding anyone who has a bad thing to say about him personally.

The Chiefs are going to be awful this year.

 

[Number Cruncher]

Let's face reality. Money is everything to most professional football players.

For every Ty Warren, Matt Light, Dan Koppen, and Tom Brady; there are

ten Deon Branches, David Givens, Daniel Grahams, Damien Woodys, and

Ty Laws. Show them the money. Championships don't feed their families.

I wouldn't put David Givens in this category. As a late round draft pick, he got bupkis for dough during his time here. I don't begrudge him cashing in at his one shot at the money. IIRC, the amount he received was way more than what the Pats were (or weren't) offering. Sure, if he had a bigger rookie signing bonus, or left for a measely 200 thousand clams, then sure, bash away. But that is not the case here. As much as I loved David Givens, his work ethic, and ability to make big plays in big games, and as sorry as I was to see him go, it was the right thing to do. Difficult, but correct....

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

I wouldn't put David Givens in this category. As a late round draft pick, ........and as sorry as I was to see him go, it was the right thing to do. Difficult, but correct....

You beat me to the same post by a few minutes. The other difference was there was no acrimony in the Givens situation and he spoke only postively of his time here. He made the most of his opportunity and I for one hope that his does well, rehabs and is successful there.

 

[scout]

I wouldn't diss Grahm either. So what if he went home (Denver) for more money to a pretty good team. The Patriots had already told him they were only going to pay him x amount. I don't believe Grahm did anything wrong.

 

[mgteich]

The patriots made a take it or leave it offer to Ty Law. He chose to go elsewhere. I do NOT think he regrets his decision, anymore than Milloy or Woody did. And BTW, I don't think top football players are more money-oriented than top lawyers, singers, race car drivers, or anyone else.

Many think that players should play for less. I suggest that these posters consider working for 40% less next year at the same line of work.

The patriots make offers. Players accept them or not. It is the way things should be. Last year we played the season without Branch or Law and had $7M left in cap money. The front office gambled, and the front office lost. We couldn't simply go out and sign adequate replacements for Branch. We brough in Caldwell to replace Givens, but when Branch left, the front office's answer was Gaffney and Gabriel. Maybe, just maybe Branch was more valuable than they thought. Or maybe, just maybe they were a bit arrogant in thinking that they could work something out. Perhaps there should ahve been a Plan B. If you don't think there were misjudgements, then please consider the change in approach this year.

This year we are playing hardball with Samuel, whose long-term deal would have saved cap money. In any case, we will again be pushing cap mioney into the future. We could have well afforded a large salary ($8M r more this year, with lower salaries in the future). The FO makes its decisions. The players make theirs. I have no problem with either side.

 

[Captain Cliche]

Pioli intimated recently in an interview that if it wasn't for the Postons there would have been a different outcome.

Sometimes these guys aren't so bright....letting their agents lead them around by the nose.

I imagine about now Ty realizes he f'd up.

David Givens, on the other hand, did need to feed his family and honestly addmitted he was going for the most money to the highest bidder.

Unfortunately he has been injured alot...no?

 

[patsox23]

The patriots made a take it or leave it offer to Ty Law. He chose to go elsewhere. I do NOT think he regrets his decision, anymore than Milloy or Woody did. And BTW, I don't think top football players are more money-oriented than top lawyers, singers, race car drivers, or anyone else.

Many think that players should play for less. I suggest that these posters consider working for 40% less next year at the same line of work.

This is a short-sighted argument we hear CONSTANTLY in this line of discussion. First of all, was Ty Law really offered 40% LESS by the Patriots? Secondly, and more to my point, this RIDICULOUS, LUDICROUS idea that somehow athlete's salaries are directly comparable to Joe Q. Football Fan's weekly paycheck is asinine. I'm pretty sure Ty could afford to feed his FAMILY and boost his chances for legendary-ish status (HOF) and post-career opportunity.

 

[makoute]

Maybe he is happy, (truth of the matter is we just don't know how he feel) maybe he only cares about the money. And the Chiefs did make the playoffs last year.

 

[mgteich]

Athletes are no different than those at the top of any other profession. They should reap the rewards, as do those do in othr professions.

This is a short-sighted argument we hear CONSTANTLY in this line of discussion. First of all, was Ty Law really offered 40% LESS by the Patriots? Secondly, and more to my point, this RIDICULOUS, LUDICROUS idea that somehow athlete's salaries are directly comparable to Joe Q. Football Fan's weekly paycheck is asinine. I'm pretty sure Ty could afford to feed his FAMILY and boost his chances for legendary-ish status (HOF) and post-career opportunity.

 

[mgteich]

What part of "Ty Law didn't want to play in New England any more" don't people understand? He wanted to work for Herm. He wanted to make more money, and he wanted out of New England. He accomplished all three. It will take Asante another year or two. Believe it or not, some players really do prefer to work elsewhere.

The patriots are one of the best run, most successful sports enterprises in history. It does not follow that everyone should want to work for the patriots rather than for anyone else.

 

[patsox23]

The patriots are one of the best run, most successful sports enterprises in history. It does not follow that everyone should want to work for the patriots rather than for anyone else.

Again, WHO IS ARGUING THAT? Straw men, left and right.