Banning Vick

[patriot lifer]

Atlanta wants Vick banned if convicted says poll

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/07/25/0726poll.html

 

[rabthepat]

Would be the right thing to do.

 

[37Harrison]

And the hits just keep on coming... (sorry if this was posted else where but there are like 40,823 Vick threads)

Vick is now a "person of interest" in an Arizona dog fighting ring.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=87869

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Let me state this as simply as I can.....


MICHAEL VICK WILL NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER PLAY FOR THE FALCONS OR ANY NFL TEAM AGAIN - HIS CAREER IS ALL BUT OVER AS FAR AS THE NFL IS CONCERNED - NO PLAYER HAS THE ABILITY TO COME BACK FROM CHARGES AS DEVASTATING AS THESE - THIS IS NOT A DRUG OR STEROIDS ISSUE,ITS MUCH WORSE FOR A CAREER.

 

[Pujo]

Let me state this as simply as I can.....


MICHAEL VICK WILL NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER PLAY FOR THE FALCONS OR ANY NFL TEAM AGAIN - HIS CAREER IS ALL BUT OVER AS FAR AS THE NFL IS CONCERNED - NO PLAYER HAS THE ABILITY TO COME BACK FROM CHARGES AS DEVASTATING AS THESE - THIS IS NOT A DRUG OR STEROIDS ISSUE,ITS MUCH WORSE FOR A CAREER.

If he's convicted you're probably right, if he's acquitted... Ray Lewis came back from worse...

 

[QuiGon]

Let me state this as simply as I can.....


MICHAEL VICK WILL NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER PLAY FOR THE FALCONS OR ANY NFL TEAM AGAIN - HIS CAREER IS ALL BUT OVER AS FAR AS THE NFL IS CONCERNED - NO PLAYER HAS THE ABILITY TO COME BACK FROM CHARGES AS DEVASTATING AS THESE - THIS IS NOT A DRUG OR STEROIDS ISSUE,ITS MUCH WORSE FOR A CAREER.

Eh... people have short memories... If he cools his jets for a year or two in the slammer, he'll come out and still be in his 20's... never say never...

 

[jcdavey]

nfl should give him the death penalty if he's convicted, yes

but there's always the cfl

 

[Oswlek]

If he's convicted you're probably right, if he's acquitted... Ray Lewis came back from worse...

I have as much disdain for Lewis' act as the next guy, but Lewis most certainly did not get away with more. It is a common misconception that Lewis was the suspect in a murder. In reality, he withheld material information about a homicide.

I am not backing his actions. But he is not the murderer that people seem to think he is.

 

[Pujo]

I have as much disdain for Lewis' act as the next guy, but Lewis most certainly did not get away with more. It is a common misconception that Lewis was the suspect in a murder. In reality, he withheld material information about a homicide.

I am not backing his actions. But he is not the murderer that people seem to think he is.

Lewis was initially charged with (and tried for) the actual murder, not as an accessory. He ended up pleading guilty to obstruction of justice when it became obvious the prosecution didn't have a case, but the initial charge was for the actual act of killing someone.

 

[DaBruinz]

Eh... people have short memories... If he cools his jets for a year or two in the slammer, he'll come out and still be in his 20's... never say never...

He's facing 5 years on the conspiracy charge. And there is the potential that vick can be charged with numerous counts of animal cruelty if they convict him on MORE than just the initial indictment.

If Vick spends 5 years in prison, he'll be 32 and won't have been on a football field for those 5 years. Vick relies almost solely on his legs. Do you honestly believe that, if he survives prison, hell still have the same speed he does now?

 

[patriot lifer]

He's facing 5 years on the conspiracy charge. And there is the potential that vick can be charged with numerous counts of animal cruelty if they convict him on MORE than just the initial indictment.

If Vick spends 5 years in prison, he'll be 32 and won't have been on a football field for those 5 years. Vick relies almost solely on his legs. Do you honestly believe that, if he survives prison, hell still have the same speed he does now?

not to mention if they bag him for the gambling. That can be a lot more jailtime, if they have the evidence. And under the NFL's policy, he can be banned for life for gambling.

 

[Dagg]

My guess is he will server about 3 years and he will play i the NFL again but not for the Falcons

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Didn't want to start a new thread for this scum. His trial date has been set for November 26th per ESPN's coverage. His conditions of bail will include his not being allowed to travel outside of the jurisdiction of his residence without permission from pre trial services. His co-defendents were both ordered to undergo drug testing due to previous convictions and to wear monitoring devices. Vick was not.

Superceding indictment to be filed in August which means that they may be adding new charges or dropping someone who is cooperating already per Roger Kossack of Court TV (there are rumors that Taylor and Vick have had a falling out and he's been out of the ring since 2007). That could require a new arraignment and trial date depending on how much the indictment changes. Vick and his codefendents waived the right to a speedy trial, but it only gained them about 6 weeks.

Vick's lawyer is now talking flanked by Mama Boddie doing the Michael will be vindicated in court. Read a statement purportedly by Mike proclaiming his innocence but only apologizing to his Mama for all the trouble HE has caused the family and his teamates for not being with them in "spring training" (I think his lawyer mis ghost-wrote that for Mike...).

 

[Real World]

Lewis was initially charged with (and tried for) the actual murder, not as an accessory. He ended up pleading guilty to obstruction of justice when it became obvious the prosecution didn't have a case, but the initial charge was for the actual act of killing someone.

Amazingly, they never convicted any for murder in that case, IIRC. Truly sad.

 

[Pujo]

for not being with them in "spring training"

Lol, maybe he's planning a career in baseball?

 

[Real World]

Lol, maybe he's planning a career in baseball?

Deion Sanders Redux.

 

[Terence]

Didn't want to start a new thread for this scum. His trial date has been set for November 26th per ESPN's coverage. His conditions of bail will include his not being allowed to travel outside of the jurisdiction of his residence without permission from pre trial services. His co-defendents were both ordered to undergo drug testing due to previous convictions and to wear monitoring devices. Vick was not.

Superceding indictment to be filed in August which means that they may be adding new charges or dropping someone who is cooperating already per Roger Kossack of Court TV (there are rumors that Taylor and Vick have had a falling out and he's been out of the ring since 2007). That could require a new arraignment and trial date depending on how much the indictment changes. Vick and his codefendents waived the right to a speedy trial, but it only gained them about 6 weeks.

Vick's lawyer is now talking flanked by Mama Boddie doing the Michael will be vindicated in court. Read a statement purportedly by Mike proclaiming his innocence but only apologizing to his Mama for all the trouble HE has caused the family and his teamates for not being with them in "spring training" (I think his lawyer mis ghost-wrote that for Mike...).

You guys need to stop judging this man and let the trial play out. If he comes out innocent, all of you will look like idiots! These are accusations with evidence coming from witnesses who are thugs themselves. How much trust can you put in someone who is already doing dirt! Just wait for all the facts to come out before you deem the man guilty!

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Even Mort and the ESPN waterboys are now saying not only will bhe never take a snap in Atlanta again, he likely won't take another in the NFL. Mort claims the cap hit isn't as bad as previously predicted to cut him, and he thinks Blank will do that if somehow Vick gets off or tries to come back pending trial if the Commissioner doesn't extend his "suspension" or whatever it is he's on now. But Mort expects that if the Commissioner's new independent council finds sufficient evidence to corroberate any of the charges in the indictment, Goodell will suspend him probably by the 3rd week in August.

BTW the judge who presided in the bond proceding (who was not the trial judge) said he'd received a lot of impassioned email about the case and while passions run high that as repulsive as the cruelty charges are they are not part of the indictment which primarily relates to an interstate gambling enterprise...

 

[Pujo]

You guys need to stop judging this man and let the trial play out. If he comes out innocent, all of you will look like idiots! These are accusations with evidence coming from witnesses who are thugs themselves. How much trust can you put in someone who is already doing dirt! Just wait for all the facts to come out before you deem the man guilty!

I don't have to wait for the trial, I think he's guilty now. I think OJ's guilty too, though the trial said otherwise. I'm not always right, I thought the Duke players were guilty, and boy was I wrong, but I feel comfortable given the evidence that I've seen to decide that he was involved.

 

[Terence]

I don't have to wait for the trial, I think he's guilty now. I think OJ's guilty too, though the trial said otherwise. I'm not always right, I thought the Duke players were guilty, and boy was I wrong, but I feel comfortable given the evidence that I've seen to decide that he was involved.

That's the problem with society today! People want to judge people without knowing all the facts. I guess that makes you part of the problem!