Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind?

[TheSeymonsta]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

but don't pretend that you're basing it on any kind of logic.

Its based upon common sense....

No person in their right mind turns down what he was offered. He is in never, never land if he thinks he is going to get 30 Million up front after 8 great games and 3 and a half seasons of mediocre...:bricks:

 

[patsgo]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

Its based upon common sense....

No person in their right mind turns down what he was offered. He is in never, never land if he thinks he is going to get 30 Million up front after 8 great games and 3 and a half seasons of mediocre...:bricks:

i think pujo is part of asante's represenative team , its to bad they revert to fans forumns

 

[Displaced - Fan]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

The whole point is the risk Asante faces by gambling that he wont get hurt this year before he realizes his long term deal.

How stupid would his move look if he took the 8MM, blew out a knee and never got a chance to see his mega deal come to fruition.

I see his point and I don't blame him one bit. He paid his dues as far as honoring his contract and now the Patriots are doing what is well within their rights, but Asante sure is as well.

I still think he reports with two weeks to go in preseason - but man that risk won't go away.

About as stupid as he was at passing up the 13 million guaranteed that was sitting on the table he did pass up. :bricks:

Yeah poor Asante...NOT!

 

[bbaptiste]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

Its based upon common sense....

No person in their right mind turns down what he was offered. He is in never, never land if he thinks he is going to get 30 Million up front after 8 great games and 3 and a half seasons of mediocre...:bricks:

I agree with P. Some team would throw near 30mil(in real money) at Asante. That's why the Pats have locked the franchise tag on him.

 

[TheSeymonsta]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

I agree with P. Some team would throw near 30mil(in real money) at Asante. That's why the Pats have locked the franchise tag on him.

Thats fine some team might......But not the Pats.

And the reason they have him locked up is they want compensation if he is going to leave.

 

[psychoPat]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

For the first time
it occurs to me that
Meriweather may not sign either
until Asante's situation becomes much more clear.

His value ... hence, his leverage ... is considerably higher
if Samuel is AWOL.

 

[Pujo]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

Its based upon common sense....

No person in their right mind turns down what he was offered. He is in never, never land if he thinks he is going to get 30 Million up front after 8 great games and 3 and a half seasons of mediocre...:bricks:

He might get it, but if he doesn't it's his loss. I still don't hate him for trying, $8 million might just not be very much to him.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

He might get it, but if he doesn't it's his loss. I still don't hate him for trying, $8 million might just not be very much to him.

Another thing to think about is that his teammates are not behind him on this one. Guys have come out about Asante saying hes on his own because several of the Patriots best players Vrabel, Harrison, Bruschi, etc have never seen that kind of money for one year.

 

[fgssand]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

About as stupid as he was at passing up the 13 million guaranteed that was sitting on the table he did pass up. :bricks:

Yeah poor Asante...NOT!

Stupid would be taking a deal below market value because you were franchised.

I do not think he should get Clement money he seeks, but I do feel he is close to Vasher or Tillman money.

I do think the Bears were dumb to give away their leverage in terms of giving up franchise rights for Briggs next year. They sold out their future in order to get one last year out of him.

I also think, as was pointed out, a good insurance policy and playing for the 7.9MM is his very best option for both the long and the short term.

I think the Patriots should creatively seek a way to pay him his 7.9MM to get him to come in - but NOT if it means giving up the franchise tag opportunity for next year.

 

[TheSeymonsta]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

He might get it, but if he doesn't it's his loss. I still don't hate him for trying, $8 million might just not be very much to him.

I dont hate him....

Really could care less. But if 8 million isnt very much to him, he is out of touch with reality.

 

[patriot lifer]

according to PFT, the Bears and Briggs aren't that close to a deal as at first suggested today

 

[amazinPats]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

Being a human being means, or should mean, being objective. Obviously you want your team to win, you don't need to be objective there, but if your opinions are driven by that, rather than an honest assesment of the situation, your opinion's only worth the 2 minutes you spent typing it.

If I say "A is true because of B", but actually I mean "A is true because I'm a fan of the Patriots and want it to be true", how is somebody going to take you seriously? If you're going to debate, ground yourself in fact instead of emotion.

Believe me, I'm not taking people to task here, I'm guilty of homerism once in a while just as bad as anyone else, but this whole Asante thing has really brought out the most illogical in people. It's fine if you think he should play for whatever the team offers, but don't pretend that you're basing it on any kind of logic.

I totally agree here. We can have a bias towards the Pats, which most of us do, but unless there's a modicum of objectivity or an urge towards being fair to other teams, then your opinion isn't worth very much. Might as well read what a 10 year old thinks about his team.

 

[spacecrime]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

Anyone attacking Asante on this is just being a fanboy.

Believe it or not, there are valid opinions out there besides your own. Possibly more valid, since they seem to be able to articulate theirs and the only way you seem to be able to make your point is to say that everyone else is a "fanboy," whatever that is.

The whole point is the risk Asante faces by gambling that he wont get hurt this year before he realizes his long term deal.

There is truth to this, but why start with this year? He could have blown his knee out last year. Or the year before. Every game and practice since April 2003 was a chance he could have blown out a knee and never had a big second contract.

How stupid would his move look if he took the 8MM, blew out a knee and never got a chance to see his mega deal come to fruition.

How stupid would he look if he holds out until week ten and then blows out his knee out in week 11? He has two choices: Play the whole year or play the last six games. The odds of getting hurt are much higher IMO is he starts off when everyone else is going at mach speed.

For that matter, how stupid will he look if he holds out and gets in a car accident and never plays again?

He can make 8 million dollars by signing his name. It is the sensible thing to do. Very few people will call him stupid for making the right choice at the time. If future freak events work against him later on, that doesn't mean he didn't make the right choice. Were the Patriots wrong to draft Robert Edwards? No, they made the right choice, and Samuel will be making the right choice by taking 8 million this year and another 15 million next year.

 

[FarScapeR]

Signing or not, it's his prerogative. He's had his fair share of injuries and he's gotten his superbowl ring. In the same situation, I would've held out too. It's not everyday a player gets to lead the league in position defining stats in the year before free agency. It's not a matter of what he's really worth-- it's more an issue of what he could have gotten in free agency in a year when there was a dire need in his position, for which teams were willing to pay a boatload. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity and, like it or not, the Pats took that away from him when they used the franchise tag.

But, that said, the rules are the rules. Plus, he is getting a raise for performing well in a system that set him up to succeed in his position.

 

[BadMoFo]

according to PFT, the Bears and Briggs aren't that close to a deal as at first suggested today

Well, the World Wide Leader in Sports says otherwise.

All-Pro linebacker Briggs signs one-year tender offer
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Updated: July 25, 2007, 6:01 PM ET

Two-time Pro Bowl weakside linebacker Lance Briggs, who was unable to reach a long-term deal with the Chicago Bears as the team's designated franchise player, will sign the one-year qualifying offer worth $7.2 million, and report to camp on Thursday, ESPN.com has learned.

Chicago will advance Briggs, who had earlier threatened to sit out until the 10th week of the season, $1 million. More important, the Bears have agreed that they will not use a franchise marker in 2008 on Briggs, provided the four-year veteran participates in 75 percent of the defensive snaps this season.

Briggs, 26, has averaged nearly 90 percent of the defensive snaps the past three years.

Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.

 

[SWelker]

I don't see the Pats ever agreeing to what the Bears agreed to - not putting the tag on him in 2008, so I expect a Samuel holdout to proceed as he has planned.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Briggs to sign a 1 year contract within the next day according to Sirius NFL Radio sources just now reported in.

 

[Pujo]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

Believe it or not, there are valid opinions out there besides your own. Possibly more valid, since they seem to be able to articulate theirs and the only way you seem to be able to make your point is to say that everyone else is a "fanboy," whatever that is.

There are valid opinions besides my own, and there are also a lot of people giving a complete stranger financial advice and expecting that he should take it. Anyone who's suggesting that Samuel take this deal because it's good for Samuel is like a corporation that tries to get away with something by saying it'll "benefit the consumer". It feels like it's only a matter of time until someone screams, "Oh won't someone think of the children!"

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Re: Briggs close to signing tender. Is Asante far behind ?

The whole point is the risk Asante faces by gambling that he wont get hurt this year before he realizes his long term deal.

How stupid would his move look if he took the 8MM, blew out a knee and never got a chance to see his mega deal come to fruition.

I see his point and I don't blame him one bit. He paid his dues as far as honoring his contract and now the Patriots are doing what is well within their rights, but Asante sure is as well.

I still think he reports with two weeks to go in preseason - but man that risk won't go away.

I completely agree with everything except your prediction that he shows up in the preseason. I think he means it that he'll sit and I think we end up trading him right after the beginning of the season. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Crowpointer]

I don't see the Pats ever agreeing to what the Bears agreed to - not putting the tag on him in 2008, so I expect a Samuel holdout to proceed as he has planned.

What would be the over/under on "Belichick is leaving" threads started if they agreed not to tag him in 2008?