How do you see Randy Moss's stats for this upcoming season with Tom Brady??

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

I still get all "giddy inside" thinking about how Tom Brady has Moss and Stallworth to throw to. I think Moss catching 10+ TD's should be a lock and will make it back to the pro bowl. As far as recieving yards, I think Moss will reach at least 1,000 yards but not much more because the Pats have so much talent at reciever. The "Moss of old is back". Write that down!

 

[fgssand]

I still get all "giddy inside" thinking about how Tom Brady has Moss and Stallworth to throw to. I think Moss catching 10+ TD's should be a lock and will make it back to the pro bowl. As far as recieving yards, I think Moss will reach at least 1,000 yards but not much more because the Pats have so much talent at reciever. The "Moss of old is back". Write that down!

And Welker and Watson, Thomas, Brady, Brown, Faulk, and one of three Gafney, Caldwell, Washington and the kid too......WOW is right.

 

[rabthepat]

Just something to consider...

"On May 15, 2007, more than two weeks after the trade to New England, Moss was called out by his former Raiders coaches. His former offensive coordinator, Tom Walsh, said of Moss, "Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills...Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career." [1] Walsh also reported that Moss told him, "'I'm too old to practice on Wednesday and Thursday, but I'm not too old to play on Sunday.'"

From John Tomase
For Sporting News
7/19/07

"Minutes later, the Patriots finished with a series of gassers. One of the fastest men ever to don pads, Moss finished last virtually every time. He could not have looked less interested, which was also the case during a number of drills.

And thus began the debate over how he'll fare in New England. He has already declared that "the old Moss is back." Whether that's the perennial 1,000-yard terror in Minnesota or the lazy malcontent in Oakland remains to be seen. "

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

hopefully. but he isn't the best deep passer. Of course, stallworth and moss will make him shine anyways.
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I was thinking more of YAC as they run away from defenders........

 

[DarrylS]

Yeah but we never had anyone as talented as Moss.

Just curious, how do you claim the nom de plume, city of champions.. but otoh, guess city of champion does not sound very good.. keep wishing maybe you can pluralize some day.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

They've got to be peein their pants in Indy...

I'm gonna get me a T-shirt made after this year that says "Hoosierdaddy"

 

[Vern]

This is how NE's top receiver has faired each year under Belichick. No receiver has ever caught more than 7 TDs in season under Belichick.

Year Rec Yds TDs Player
2006 61 760 4 RC
2005 78 998 5 DB
2004 56 874 3 DG
2003 57 803 3 DB
2002 97 890 3 TB
2001 101 1199 5 TB
2000 83 944 4 TB

Average 76 924 4


My guess for Randy would be 65 receptions, 850 yards and 6 TDs.

Yeah, but the problem is, Moss isn't/won't be the #1 WR - Stallworth is. Stallworth will lead in receptions and yardage. Moss will be a sort of hybrid between the role Givens and Patten played - deep threat and red zone threat. Where Givens in the Red Zone made his TDs off the hitch and WR screen, Moss will do it with the fade but the results will be similar - lower total receptions and yards, but very high YPC and TDs.

Compare to:
Patten 2004 44 800 18.2 48 7
Givens 2003 34 510 15.0 57 6

except that Moss should get more like 55 receptions and 10 TDs. The hardest thing to figure is his final YPC. He's have plenty of deep balls, but a lot of those TDs are going to be 6 yard fades to the back corner of the endzone, so that could bring the average way down.

All this assumes no health considerations.

 

[godef]

i am thinking around 70 catches 900 yds and 7 td's...What do you guys think?

It won't be Moss's best season statisitically, but it may be Brady's best. Every receiver's stats will go up because Brady spreads the ball around, and Moss will be just as valuable gobbling up the defensive resources of other teams allowing other receivers to be free, as he will be receiving the ball.

 

[Krugman]

I dont see gaudy numbers from Moss ,but respectable.The guy is a weapon we all know that,he wont be wasted,However,his downfield threat can only open passes to Welker,Stallworth,Jackson Watson and runs for Maroney.Nothing new in that,I know,but barring some major injury to TB,the RB or an O-Line person,what else can you reasonably expect? Imagine the five reciever set,where the pass rush/blitz is hard to conceal,I see a high completion ratio .

 

[sebman2112]

Yeah, but the problem is, Moss isn't/won't be the #1 WR - Stallworth is. Stallworth will lead in receptions and yardage. Moss will be a sort of hybrid between the role Givens and Patten played - deep threat and red zone threat. Where Givens in the Red Zone made his TDs off the hitch and WR screen, Moss will do it with the fade but the results will be similar - lower total receptions and yards, but very high YPC and TDs.

Compare to:
Patten 2004 44 800 18.2 48 7
Givens 2003 34 510 15.0 57 6

except that Moss should get more like 55 receptions and 10 TDs. The hardest thing to figure is his final YPC. He's have plenty of deep balls, but a lot of those TDs are going to be 6 yard fades to the back corner of the endzone, so that could bring the average way down.

All this assumes no health considerations.

I too think Stallworth will be the number 1

 

[BHSL2]

Just something to consider...

"On May 15, 2007, more than two weeks after the trade to New England, Moss was called out by his former Raiders coaches. His former offensive coordinator, Tom Walsh, said of Moss, "Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills...Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career." [1] Walsh also reported that Moss told him, "'I'm too old to practice on Wednesday and Thursday, but I'm not too old to play on Sunday.'"

From John Tomase
For Sporting News
7/19/07

"Minutes later, the Patriots finished with a series of gassers. One of the fastest men ever to don pads, Moss finished last virtually every time. He could not have looked less interested, which was also the case during a number of drills.

And thus began the debate over how he'll fare in New England. He has already declared that "the old Moss is back." Whether that's the perennial 1,000-yard terror in Minnesota or the lazy malcontent in Oakland remains to be seen. "

This is the same Raiders' staff whose offense only scored 12 offensive touchdowns as a whole.

 

[rabthepat]

This is the same Raiders' staff whose offense only scored 12 offensive touchdowns as a whole.

You are right that the Raiders were lame in the TD department. Yet, all Tom Walsh is saying is that Randy needs to put more effort into his practice habits if he wants to perform at a higher level. He isn't 23 years old anymore and from what I am reading his practice efforts with the Pats so far are closer to Allen Iverson than Jerry Rice.

 

[BHSL2]

Lol, great Iverson comparison.

You are right that the Raiders were lame in the TD department. Yet, all Tom Walsh is saying is that Randy needs to put more effort into his practice habits if he wants to perform at a higher level.

I agree that Moss still has something to prove on and off the practice field. But as for the Raider's coaching staff...meh

 

[Pats4ever3]

. He isn't 23 years old anymore and from what I am reading his practice efforts with the Pats so far are closer to Allen Iverson than Jerry Rice.

To be honest I don't see many similarities between Allen Iverson and Randy Moss when it comes to practice efforts, except from the fact that both of them missed a practice now and then. When Iverson steps on the field he puts he heart into everyhting whether it's practice or gameday. That is not the case with Moss who tends to slack through practice sessions and drills.