Trade value for our WRs? Who - to where - and for what?

[JoeSixPat]

Barring injury, in great contrast to last year, we have significant depth at WR... so much so that our 5/6 WR could be a solid 3, or maybe even #2 WR on another team.

So here's the question

again, barring injury, do you see the team trading a WR? If so, who - and for what? A draft pick? If so where? Or perhaps a trade for a position player. Any insights on what teams have need at WR - and where they might have depth that could benefit us?

Seems to me that Gaffney and Washington are the most likely trade candidates. One can debate keeping Gaffney or Caldwell - I'd say Caldwell has the edge with timining with Brady - though I think Gaffney does some things better than Caldwell - hence good trade value.

Washington's effectively in a "show me" first year of a contract that - if he produces for a team, can be a real value. If he doesn't he renegotiates or gets cut - again, worth taking a chance for a team.

Maybe its conditional picks for either - that always strikes me as fair.

Doug Gabriel garnered only a 5th rounder from us last year - though I think we'd all agree even that was overpaying. I'd say a 4th round draft pick is possible - maybe higher if its a conditional pick and the players do well with extra playing time on another team. Of course much depends on the performance of the players in pre-season, but let's just assume everyone plays to general expectations.

So all things being equal, whos' the best trade bait from our WR depth should everyone remain healthy and perform to expectations?

 

[37Harrison]

I don't think the Pats are going to be able to trade with anyone. Teams will just wait until the Pats have to cut one of them and then sign.

The only way I see this happening is if a team is extremely desperate for a WR (like the Pats last year) and have the luxury of forfeiting one if their draft picks. Even then, it's a long shot.

Teams are going to wait until after the mandatory cuts are made and then sign whomever gets cut.

 

[italian pat patriot]

I don't think the Pats are going to be able to trade with anyone. Teams will just wait until the Pats have to cut one of them and then sign.

The only way I see this happening is if a team is extremely desperate for a WR (like the Pats last year) and have the luxury of forfeiting one if their draft picks. Even then, it's a long shot.

Teams are going to wait until after the mandatory cuts are made and then sign whomever gets cut.

personally i agree with you

 

[stinkypete]

Maybe the Pats could get a 6 out of someone for Washington. A team like the Texans or Raiders may be willing to cough up.

While trades are unlikely this time of year, don't forget we pulled off 2 preseason trades last year.

 

[MetalBleachers]

I don't think the Pats are going to be able to trade with anyone. Teams will just wait until the Pats have to cut one of them and then sign.

:agree: Besides, you never know how the WRs will interact and what the best combo will be. I'm rooting for Bam.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Maybe the Pats could get a 6 out of someone for Washington. A team like the Texans or Raiders may be willing to cough up.

While trades are unlikely this time of year, don't forget we pulled off 2 preseason trades last year.

As others have pointed out before, the advantage to not waiting is that there's less competition. I could definitely see the Pats trading one of the lower WRs to, say, the Titans.

 

[Pats726]

Very possible...I also think an offfensive lineman might be gone.

 

[BelichickFan]

I don't think the Pats are going to be able to trade with anyone. Teams will just wait until the Pats have to cut one of them and then sign.

We can probably get a low pick - no point in waiting for them to be cut then the team has to compete against 30 other teams. Toss a #6 our way and the player is their's.

 

[sieglo]

I don't think the Pats are going to be able to trade with anyone. Teams will just wait until the Pats have to cut one of them and then sign.

The only way I see this happening is if a team is extremely desperate for a WR (like the Pats last year) and have the luxury of forfeiting one if their draft picks. Even then, it's a long shot.

Teams are going to wait until after the mandatory cuts are made and then sign whomever gets cut.

The problem with this theory is that it assumes there's only one team out there that needs a WR. As soon as there are more than one team that has need, you create a situation where a team might be willing to compensate the Pats for the surety of a trade.

 

[JoeSixPat]

I don't think the Pats are going to be able to trade with anyone. Teams will just wait until the Pats have to cut one of them and then sign.

We can probably get a low pick - no point in waiting for them to be cut then the team has to compete against 30 other teams. Toss a #6 our way and the player is their's.

Right - that's why trades happen - if there's a player you want, or a player you need, you trade for him. There's always injuries and high need during pre-season at different positions. It's tough to imagine there won't be a team in need of WR depth.

If you wait until the player is cut you're pretty much not interested in that player in the first place and willing to take the risk that 29 other teams might sign him before you.

Most GMs understand this - which is why I think a trade is very possible given our depth.

 

[psychoPat]

Besides those 3 supernumerary WRs,
i also view Kaczur
and Josh Miller as trade bait.

As ever, at this stage of the cycle expect to receive lower value
for players who are cut candidates anyway. (Kaczur is not.)
But when several teams could be interested in a guy
... each has some small incentive to keep the player under contract thru a trade,
rather than bidding for him in an auction.

 

[jbb9s]

Washington and Stallworth and Brown were all free agents this offseason. I would think that if any team wanted any of those three, they would have just gone and signed them directly instead of giving the patriots the chance to sign and broker a trade for compensation.

 

[Keegs]

we should trade Caldwell for whatever we can get for him.

 

[patriot lifer]

we should trade Caldwell for whatever we can get for him.

yippee, a sixth or seventh round pick. maybe we'll get another insider linebacker with it

 

[Keegs]

yippee, a sixth or seventh round pick. maybe we'll get another insider linebacker with it

Sounds fine to me, seriously.


At this point i would be happy with trading him for Monty Beisel. (kinda kidding but not really).

 

[patriot lifer]

Sounds fine to me, seriously.


At this point i would be happy with trading him for Monty Beisel. (kinda kidding but not really).

and maybe the replacement won't have great saucer-like eyes that don't blink

 

[shakadave]

We can probably get a low pick - no point in waiting for them to be cut then the team has to compete against 30 other teams. Toss a #6 our way and the player is their's.

This is exactly what I was going to say, right down to the 6th rounder.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Seriously folks, look over the history of trades when there's a need on a team - why we ourselves have given up a 2nd round draft choice for a #3 WR and a CB who will remain nameless. If there's a need or injury elsewhere in the NFL I think we can get more than a 6th round draft choice for a player who could assume #3 or #2 WR duties on another team.

Obviously Stallworth, Moss, Welker and Troy are not going to be traded for various reasons. Caldwell, Gaffney and Washington all could be.

 

[pats1]

and maybe the replacement won't have great saucer-like eyes that don't blink

Get over it.

 

[patriot lifer]

Get over it.

they're hypnotic