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you could plug vasher in the pats system and you wouldnt miss a beat, we lost milloy and we won a superbowl. we lost law and we won a super bowl if we lost samuel my opinion is we can win another superbowl
Asante assumed the position.
Hopefully the Pats will make this happen again with this negotiation. :rocker:
Pats make it happen? Its up to Asante to make it happen
While I understand that Pro Bowls don't mean everything (ask Ty Warren), it is interesting that a guy who seems to think he's a top three CB in the league has never been to a pro bowl.
Without getting into who is the better player, this is CLEARLY an excellent comp for the two players. Samuel gains a little bargaining power as he's a year into the system (Vasher would have been a UFA in a year). With a reasonable agent and player, Vasher's deal should lead to a quick resolution to this if the Patriots are also reasonable.
Mike Reiss said:I just wanted to add a quick follow-up to today's Asante Samuel piece. It has been pointed out that comparing Nathan Vasher of the Chicago Bears and Dre' Bly of the Denver Broncos to Samuel is not fair because Samuel is a left cornerback and the other two are primarily right cornerbacks.
Don't get sidetracked by the sides. Last season, Samuel spent the first nine games starting at right corner, recording three of his 10 interceptions there. He switched to left cornerback in the 11th game of the season and promptly shined, pulling down three interceptions in a win over the Chicago Bears on Nov. 26 at Gillette Stadium. He played on the left side the rest of the way, including three playoff games, intercepting a total of nine passes -- two in the postseason -- in nine games as a starter on the left side.
Samuel obviously played better at left corner and has gone on record saying he feels more comfortable playing that side. However, the Patriots are big on versatility, so theoretically the left vs. right argument could be used by both sides in negotiations.
Then there is this fact: Nate Clements, the big-money corner Samuel is believed to be basing his contract stance on, started all 16 games at right cornerback last season for the Buffalo Bills.
Strong point 3 INT in 11 games vs. a prorated 2.75 INT in 11 games. Where's the so-called separation ?I don't get this line:
"Where Samuel separates himself is in the postseason. Vasher has one interception in four postseason contests. Samuel has three in 11 games, all in the last two seasons."
Why does this "separate" them? Vasher's numbers here, if pro-rated to 11 games, are nearly the same.
Strong point 3 INT in 11 games vs. a prorated 2.75 INT in 11 games. Where's the so-called separation ?
Well that's fine but 3 INT in 11 games is way too small of a sample to be comparing it to a power hitter over multiple full seasons.The separation is in the having done it already, rather than having it projected. It's kind of like comparing Carlos Pena's numbers to David Ortiz's from last year. Pena hasn't done it yet. That's the difference.