Miami Players Slam Ginn Pick

[zippo59]

let veteran defensive tackle Vonnie Holliday tell it: "With the ninth pick they took a guy who is basically a kick returner -- a hurt kick returner. Here were are in June, and he hasn't been in camp yet. Maybe he'll come in eventually and become a better route-runner and make some plays. But I couldn't believe it then, and I can't believe it now."

"You notice the commissioner kind of paused before he read the name," Taylor says. "Like even he couldn't believe it."

Holliday had his own draft-day moment of revolting revelation. He was standing on the patio of his offseason home in Atlanta's Buckhead district, grilling his delectable specialty ("Best steaks east of the Mississippi," he insists), when his wife, Eboni, came rushing outside with the news.

"What did we do?" Eboni asked. Her husband nearly dropped his spatula. "About 45 seconds later," he recalls, "my phone rang. It was JT. I answered it and said, 'I know. I know. I can't believe it.'"

"Needing a young quarterback for the future, you'd think picking Quinn would've been a no-brainer," Holliday says. "I mean, the setup was perfect. It's hard enough to get the fans (in South Florida) to come to the games, and now you piss them off? But hey, they must have a plan."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/michael_silver/06/07/ginn.dolphins/index.html

 

[DaBruinz]

Where are Aqua-Boy and Feelinthepain? I really would like to hear their "unbiased" opinions of their own veteran players, including JT, questioning the pick....

 

[DaBruinz]

Wasn't Mueller the maroon who traded a 2nd round pick to the Eagles for A.J. Feeley before Saban was hired? And they gave him back the keys to the kingdom after Saban left? Man, their owner is as bad as Dan Snyder... in a "I have no friggin clue what I am doing" kind of way. If Shula and Marino had any balls, they'd put a group together to buy the Dolphins and save them from themselves.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

That about sums it up!

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Wow thats terrible for those guys to do that to the kid. They dont even know him yet.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Wow thats terrible for those guys to do that to the kid. They dont even know him yet.

I'm surprised to see Taylor say anything... I think he's really getting frustrated... maybe he'll join his former teammate and "graduate" next season

I still think Beck will surprise people... but still think that Ginn will disappoint... but geeze... give the guy a chance

 

[spacecrime]

In some players' eyes, this wasn't merely a reach -- it was proof that NFL coaches and general managers should be subject to the same drug-testing procedures as the athletes.

Feelthepain is living up to his name now

Move over Cincinnati Bungles, you have been replaced by the Miami NoWins as the assclowns of the NFL

 

[tombonneau]

Wow. I'm surprised. I've don't think I can recall veteran players ever saying something so unprofessional about a draft pick before. I thought it was a joke what they said was so bad.

I know that Bullock called out Pacman Jones before he showed up to camp, but that was different, Pacman brought that on himself.

All Ginn did was get drafted. And he was already hurt. He doesn't deserve to be trashed by his teammates like that.

Poor form.

 

[zippo59]

Wow thats terrible for those guys to do that to the kid. They dont even know him yet.

Imagine how Ginn must feel. Thanks for all the support guys.

 

[spacecrime]

At the end of the article, very funny:

When Tom Brady gets grilled more than Randy Moss for off-the-field issues at a Patriots minicamp, you know the earth has officially spun off its axis.

 

[NE39]

Holliday is already backpedaling:

Holliday said Thursday that the writer of the article didn't misquote him but, "made something out of nothing,'' after Holliday recounted to him how he initially was stunned over the pick just like many angry Dolphins fans were at the team's draft party.

"He turned it into me bashing the organization. I'm not criticizing the organization and Ginn. That's not what I did,'' Holliday said. "It was my initial shock of the selection. I'm a player. I have no idea about Ginn. There were quarterback concerns and Brady Quinn is just sitting there and I think we're picking him with the ninth pick and we don't.

"Our scouts saw that wasn't the right route.''

 

[shakadave]

Beyond unprofessional. Is it too trite to say "You wouldn't hear Patriots talking like that"?

 

[spacecrime]

Imagine how Ginn must feel.

If I was Ginn I'd be thinking, "They should have picked Quinn in the first round and me with their second round pick, but hey, I'm not complaining. Do you know the difference in signing bonus between the 9th pick and the 41st pick in the draft? WHOO-HOO!"

 

[PonyExpress]

This is about money. The organization haggles over every penny with these veterans, using durability against them. Then they draft an injured kick returner and immediately pay him a signing bonus worth more than the total value of a lot of these guys' contracts. The track record of the Miami front office is so abysmal the veterans don't trust their judgment anymore. John Beck was horrible in OTAs and made the 2nd rd pick look like an immediate mistake. There is a crisis of confidence with the veterans on the team. Cam Cameron has not made a strong early impression. They don't like the way Culpepper has been manipulated in favor of Trent Green, without being given a chance to compete, after all his rehab. Unless Trent Green has more of a fastball left than he showed vs Indy in the playoffs, this could be a n absolute debacle in Miami. A couple of things can rescue this season for Miami: (1) Green had an injury vs. Indy, and still has something left (2) R. Brown emerges into a 1300 yard back (3) Jason Allen, moved back to cb, excels (I think he will be great at cb). It will be very interesting to keep an eye on Phin Training Camp. The team could go anywhere from 4-12 to 9-7, depending on Green. The schedule is very tough.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

Interesting. Feelmypain spit shines Jason Taylor's balls daily at this site, and also is 'loving' the Ginn pick, because Ginn is singlehandedly going to 'stretch the field' like never before in Miami. Meanwhile, his idol, Jason Taylor, ain't so sure.

Lover's spat?

 

[DarrylS]

Still an absence of comments from the Dolphins posters, without regard can anyone imagine a Patriot Player commenting negatively on a draft pick?? Thank goodness we are Pats Fans.

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

Where are Aqua-Boy and Feelinthepain? I really would like to hear their "unbiased" opinions of their own veteran players, including JT, questioning the pick....

I disagree with them going public with this. It should've have been available for Ginn to hear it. I don't know, maybe they're trying to light a fire under his ass a little. As for the pic, yes, it was surprising, but it's not like the Dolphins got a scrub. We still got our QB of the future and got a player who will immediately become one of the most electric players in football.

My screen name is Aqua4Ever04, it's completely unfunny when you change it for personal pleasure. If I had a really borderline name then sure, it's a field day, but doing that is completely elementary. Should I call you DaLikesItInDaButt?

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

Interesting. Feelmypain spit shines Jason Taylor's balls daily at this site, and also is 'loving' the Ginn pick, because Ginn is singlehandedly going to 'stretch the field' like never before in Miami. Meanwhile, his idol, Jason Taylor, ain't so sure.

Lover's spat?

Taylor deserves that treatment, he's the best defensive player in the NFL.

 

[sarge]

I disagree with them going public with this. It should've have been available for Ginn to hear it.

I'm thinking you meant to say shouldn't. Right? It's not the kids fault he got picked when he did, so I don't think he should have to hear that stuff

My screen name is Aqua4Ever04, it's completely unfunny when you change it for personal pleasure. If I had a really borderline name then sure, it's a field day, but doing that is completely elementary. Should I call you DaLikesItInDaButt?

I actually laughed out loud at that one.

 

[zippo59]

I disagree with them going public with this. It should've have been available for Ginn to hear it. I don't know, maybe they're trying to light a fire under his ass a little. As for the pic, yes, it was surprising, but it's not like the Dolphins got a scrub. We still got our QB of the future and got a player who will immediately become one of the most electric players in football.

My screen name is Aqua4Ever04, it's completely unfunny when you change it for personal pleasure. If I had a really borderline name then sure, it's a field day, but doing that is completely elementary. Should I call you DaLikesItInDaButt?

Hey Aqua, maybe this is some new kind of rookie hazing.