King rips the Pats (again)

[richpats]

I enjoy King as well, but he has rarely missed a chance to put down Randy Moss so far this offseason. (and thus the Pats) "Beating a dead horse" is the phrase that comes to mind.

I think you get where I'm going with this. If King wants to pick Indy over NE, that's fine by me....however he has laced his columns since January with anti-Patriot sentiment.

 

[richpats]

See, I put you in (here) because I was intially responding to a different poster. Only at the end did I have a message specific to you.

Now, when you are actually responding to MY post, then your remark to me is implied, the no ( ) necessary

Find yourself a board that wants you? Uhh, ok?

Wow, I wasted 10 seconds of my life reading that

 

[PonyExpress]

King's souring on the Pats IMO has nothing to do with football analysis. It is a result of his prissy moral attitudes and his feeling of betrayal after having depicted the Pats as "different" for years because of the type of players he assumed they preferred. That is why he continually pushed the Rutgers FB as the Pats #1 pick during draft season. When the Pats got Moss and Meriweather, and Brady's personal life became public fodder, and BB's personal life became public fodder, King's sensibilities were offended. That is why
1) he has spent time complimenting Shaugnessy's crirticism of the Krafts
2) lauded the work of Ron Borges, who accused the Pats of no longer being character driven
3) continually pretends that Brady lost the AFCCG with his INT, when everyone knows it was already lost the second Addai scored. IMO this is not a sincere response to Brady's on-field play, but to Brady's off-field peccadillos. King is firing a warning shot across Tom's bow. King is really saying: "Just as I created your myth when I thought you were the All-American boy, I can tear it down because you have betrayed the image of you I imagined."

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Well thats good bulletin board material for Belichick and crew already. Wonder what Bill and Peter will talk about when they meet at TC?

 

[zippo59]

When you pick Superbowl winners at this time of year you can't be wrong. And it isn't THAT unreasonable like picking the Lions to win it or something.

So while I don't agree with him he isn't wrong...yet.

 

[TheSeymonsta]

Patriots largely weren't on the field for the second half.

All I see is excuses....

Bruschi was sick, Seau, Harrison blah, blah, blah...

Harrison hasnt made it through a full year in 2 years what makes anyone think he is going to this year??

Bruschi is a year older....

Seau hasnt made it through a full year in 4 years....

The same people who were not avalable last year may very well not be available this year....

What will the excuse be next year if it happens again??

 

[He Ban Me]

Wow, I wasted 10 seconds of my life reading that

Perhaps if you started a more interesting, meaningful thread, you could engage in a better discussion.

Peter King disses Pats, Wahhhhhhhhh!!!!

 

[BelichickFan]

All I see is excuses....

I didn't say anything about why they weren't on the field. But the fact remains that when the season starts there will be about half of our defense back. That deserves a mention as a mitigating factor. If he wants to say the defense is old, injury prone and will likely be missing half of it's players again - fine, more power to him and his opinion - but to not even mention that half our starters were out suggests to me he made this prediction without even being aware of that fact.

 

[letekro]

Seems that all Mr. Know-it-all can use as an excuse for not picking the Pats is one bad half of football. Gee, I wonder how the Colts were picked year-in and year-out after their playoff blunders:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/06/03/mmqb/index.html

I don't listen to writers that use the word "zaniest."

That's about the soundest rule I can think of.

 

[DarrylS]

All I see is excuses....

Bruschi was sick, Seau, Harrison blah, blah, blah...

Harrison hasnt made it through a full year in 2 years what makes anyone think he is going to this year??

Bruschi is a year older....

Seau hasnt made it through a full year in 4 years....

The same people who were not avalable last year may very well not be available this year....

What will the excuse be next year if it happens again??

But this year if all the injuries happen we have Thomas, Meriweather and a few others on this very deep team. How about it there are not significant injuries, the pendulum swings both ways.

 

[fair catch fryar]

Who F&*KING cares what Peter King or anyone else thinks. Personally, I hope nobody picks us! It bodes better for us in the end. While I think it is a little trashy to pick apart the Pats the way some writers do, it also seems to be trendy to do so. Ultimately, until some knocks the Colts off, IMO, they ARE the team to beat.

 

[patsfanofNC12]

Then add in:

A Seymour that didn't get injured on the first play
A Wilfork that didn't have the flu
Mike Wright
James Sanders
Artrell Hawkins

And just for ha ha's, one would think that a running game might help the defense, so add in Faulk, a healthy Maroney and {that other guy whose name escapes me right now}.

Judging that NE team based on the second half is no more relevent than wondering whether Indy's offense is in trouble since they only scored 21 total points in 6 consecutive quarters (Balt game and first half of NE game).

True, but even with a great running game we have to select the play to run the ball first. If I remember correctly we barely ran the ball the whole second half.

 

[DarrylS]

True, but even with a great running game we have to select the play to run the ball first. If I remember correctly we barely ran the ball the whole second half.

Maroney, Faulk and Dillon were all hurt, not sure who would do this assignment...

 

[Jacky Roberts]

Seems that all Mr. Know-it-all can use as an excuse for not picking the Pats is one bad half of football. Gee, I wonder how the Colts were picked year-in and year-out after their playoff blunders:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/06/03/mmqb/index.html

Colts lose a bunch of guys off of a bad defense, the Pats shore up their defense, and its the Pats who won't be able to stop anyone in a key spot? King is usually not bad, but he's John Clayton-esque in his idiocy here.

 

[JackBauer]

Meriweather should solve this problem.

 

[TheSeymonsta]

But this year if all the injuries happen we have Thomas, Meriweather and a few others on this very deep team. How about it there are not significant injuries, the pendulum swings both ways.

Thomas is a starter.

Meriweather is a rookie.

Our bench is no better than last year as far as LB's go.

 

[JackBauer]

Thomas is a starter.

Meriweather is a rookie.

Our bench is no better than last year as far as LB's go.

It probably is, actually.

Who cares if Meriweather is a rookie? He'll be ready to play, just like Geno.

I'd expect Woods and Alexander will be more experienced and saavy this season, so we might not see such a drop-off with Alexander, in particular, on the field.

 

[TheSeymonsta]

It probably is, actually.

Who cares if Meriweather is a rookie? He'll be ready to play, just like Geno.

I'd expect Woods and Alexander will be more experienced and saavy this season, so we might not see such a drop-off with Alexander, in particular, on the field.

I never count on rookies especially in this system.

Woods and Alexander....

I will believe that when I see it...I have no hope for the scrubs behind Seau...

 

[PatsMyBoyz!]

Im glad he is not picking the Pats, the last 2 yrs, they have not made the super bowl.. The last time he did not pick the pats, he picked Jax vs Seattle , the Pats played the eagles in that super bowl.

Me too. Here's his best line in the article: "Such is life when it comes to my picks, which, invariably, stink out loud".

 

[JackBauer]

I never count on rookies especially in this system.

Woods and Alexander....

I will believe that when I see it...I have no hope for the scrubs behind Seau...

I actually saw a mock draft ages ago with Pierre Woods going to the Patriots in the first round. The kid has plenty of talent, and I would wager you now is the future at OLB behind Colvin.

Alexander could be serviceable, certainly no worse than the ILB depth players on many other teams.