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I amongst many others on here bashed Marquise Hill in earlier times and said he was a waste of a draft pick,an unmotivated player a bust and a guy that should be kicked off the roster years ago.

I,as a man are admitting being guilty of this and am seeking Marquise and gods forgiveness for not respecting the man and treating him as just a football player and not a breathing being.

It takes a ton of talent to even sniff the level of the NFL and we really have no right to bash any player (especially one of our own here in Patriot Nation) in reality because it takes a ton of work and talent to get to this point and none of us here have that.

I said things like he should be a waterboy instead of a linebacker and here I sit empty hearted because I remember these things I said on here and am truly sorry.

If Marquise is up there somehow understanding my plea for his forgiveness please forgive me for all the bad things I said about you..I never knew about the father he was or the hard worker he was in the days before a game (Jim Miller on Sirius was saying Marquise was as hard a worker as he had ever seen when the two played here and that Marquise never took a day off and was always lifting and running hard) - I never knew the hero he was to become and this all just proves I am human and beg for Marquise and Gods forgiveness.

I,like many of my fellow Patriots fans is empty hearted and broken hearted this Memorial Day evening and my deepest sympathy goes out to any relative of the Hill family,May your son/uncle/nephew/grandson/cousin/father live an everlasting happiness where he is at now,He is a Warrior,and a hero in my book and may his soul rest in the arms of god forever :( :(

Marquise...We will miss you so much and the 2007 season is in honor of you!

If we need any motivation to win it all this year then there is no bigger bulletin board material needed in the Patriots Locker Room but one that simply says "GIVE IT YOUR ALL AND WIN IT ALL FOR MARQUISE HILL"

I gotta end this post now..I am getting teary eyed.
 
The best tribute we can give to him is to treat all players, no matter what skill level, as we would treat our friends and family, with respect.
 
read my huge post in the other thread. straight from heart..similar subject
 
The best tribute we can give to him is to treat all players, no matter what skill level, as we would treat our friends and family, with respect.

Very true indeed...Next time I think of a guy like Chad Jackson or someone else who I think may be a failure on this team I will keep it to myself..or better yet never get the inner feeling to begin with - We all pay for it in time when we open our mouths and insert foot.
 
Nah, you can't beat yourself up for stuff that you said about Marquise-the-football-player. In the grand scheme of things football doesn't make an iota of difference, but it is a world unto itself and those involved in it, as players or fans, expose themselves to the good and the bad of the profession, which includes criticism. Hill was good enough to be in the NFL, on the roster of the greatest team of the decade. He was putting himself out there for praise or critisism, as a competitor he wanted it. RIP.
 
Dont feel guilty about it. No one could have ever seen this coming. It should just ask people not to judge players or call them names and say they suck especially when he is a very good person who helped in the wake of Hurricane Katrina and is now also a hero.
 
Very true indeed...Next time I think of a guy like Chad Jackson or someone else who I think may be a failure on this team I will keep it to myself..or better yet never get the inner feeling to begin with - We all pay for it in time when we open our mouths and insert foot.

imo, i think its fine if you criticize a player..but know the limits. you can say..hes playing like **** and what not but the line is when you say: why cant we just get rid of him..hes a waste..hes the worst player and all that


remember..not everyone can make it to college..theres a handfull that do. Once they make it to college..its slim picking to the NFL. you have to realize..even if u went up against a guy like Beisel lets say, you would still be amazed at how good he is. These athletes are a lot beter than people give them credit. And worthless at times? Think practice..it starts there. They help make the starters better. their talent isnt bad..sometimes they dont fit into a system..some dont work hard enough..some take money for granted and all that
 
Ditto the last two posts... I actually have been a sometimes Marquis-Hill-Hoper for the last couple of years. But you know what? It doesn't matter. We talked about the player, not the man -- and that's understood, except in those rare cases when people go so far as to make personal comments (lazy, greedy, yadda yadda...)

He did the right thing in the end, helping a girl survive, even though he did not. As a man, he was a hero at the end.

I don't care if you thought he'd make the squad or was a wasted draft pick... just recognize these guys are human when we post, which most of us do.

There's speculation that some players/families/whatever read these boards. If so, all fan love/prayers/thoughts are for Marquis Hill and family tonight.
 
Ditto the last two posts... I actually have been a sometimes Marquis-Hill-Hoper for the last couple of years. But you know what? It doesn't matter. We talked about the player, not the man -- and that's understood, except in those rare cases when people go so far as to make personal comments (lazy, greedy, yadda yadda...)

He did the right thing in the end, helping a girl survive, even though he did not. As a man, he was a hero at the end.

I don't care if you thought he'd make the squad or was a wasted draft pick... just recognize these guys are human when we post, which most of us do.

There's speculation that some players/families/whatever read these boards. If so, all fan love/prayers/thoughts are for Marquis Hill and family tonight.

From what little I know, I think you hit the nail on the head, PFiV.

From the reports, it sounds like Marquise Hill died during an act of heroism that exceeds anything anyone can accomplish on a mere football field.
 
I posted something about this on another thread-I am sad to say I knew nothing about Marquis Hill,The Man,prior to watching the video clip from Louisiana (posted under RIP). He sounded like a great human being and he died as a great human being. Godspeed #91,and thank you for teaching me a lesson about appreciating EVERY member of this team.
 
I amongst many others on here bashed Marquise Hill in earlier times and said he was a waste of a draft pick,an unmotivated player a bust and a guy that should be kicked off the roster years ago.

I,as a man are admitting being guilty of this and am seeking Marquise and gods forgiveness for not respecting the man and treating him as just a football player and not a breathing being.

* Guilty of what? Honest criticism? His dying, which is truely a sad event, changes none of that.
 
This is exactly true. We should not feel guilty for criticism, even unreasonable criticism. Today, we pray for the man, the hero. Yes, the patriots lost a family member. We celebrate Hill's character.

Perhaps LSU fans mourn the loss of a hero on the football field. The grief among the patriots and fans is real, but it has nothing to do with Hill's football contributions as a patriot. \

Each of us has much for which to pray for forgiveness; honesty is not included.

I amongst many others on here bashed Marquise Hill in earlier times and said he was a waste of a draft pick,an unmotivated player a bust and a guy that should be kicked off the roster years ago.

I,as a man are admitting being guilty of this and am seeking Marquise and gods forgiveness for not respecting the man and treating him as just a football player and not a breathing being.

* Guilty of what? Honest criticism? His dying, which is truely a sad event, changes none of that.
 
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Some of these threads are getting ridiculous.
 
Maybe there needs to be a new forum. Call it the Patriots Confessional.
 
Despite my moniker, I am not one for praying. As long as the line of criticizing Hill as a man vs. as a player was not crossed, I don't think anyone has anything to be ashamed of. It can be a fine line sometimes, for sure.
 
I am not ashamed that I didn't think Hill was a very good player. It has nothing to do with his life.

However I feel like **** because I saw the following headline on PFT:

"PATS DEFENDER MISSING IN LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN"

My heart sank as I started scrolling down and I felt an instant of relief when I saw Hill's name. How pathetic is that? I was relieved that it wasn't a starter. It was only for a second and I felt terrible for thinking it afterward, but there you go. I suck.
 
I can relate to this. Most Bronco fans, including myself, trashed Darrent Williams multiple times last season for crappy play on the field and we called him a waste of a second rounder. Things like this really put things in perspective. Unfortunately, though, even after 2 deaths you can still find players being trashed on the Broncos boards.
 
And I hope I don't start another problem like the Crazy Patriots Guy thread. I hadn't even seen it yet when I posted. CPG, you're not the only one.
 
I amongst many others on here bashed Marquise Hill in earlier times and said he was a waste of a draft pick,an unmotivated player a bust and a guy that should be kicked off the roster years ago.

I,as a man are admitting being guilty of this and am seeking Marquise and gods forgiveness for not respecting the man and treating him as just a football player and not a breathing being.

* Guilty of what? Honest criticism? His dying, which is truely a sad event, changes none of that.

I agree 100% with you.

I am not one of those who actually berated or criticized Marquis Hill, because in all honesty I never really thought of him as part of the team. If I had criticized him, however, I wouldn't feel guilty whatsoever.

As unfortunate as his death is, it does not turn back the clock and make him a good NFL football player and make him unworthy of criticism. Sure, we all realize that it takes tremendous talent to make it to the NFL in the first place, but as fans we have the right to critique players. As athletes, they are subject to such criticism. They take the good with the bad, and trust me, they get rewarded handsomely for it in their paychecks.



If Ryan Leaf were to pass away, does that make all of his previous criticism unjustified? *

note: I do not wish any harm to Ryan Leaf, just making a point
 
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