Reche or Jabar -- Who makes it?

[tombonneau]

At this point, I doubt that both make the team. But chances are one of them makes it.

Who do you think that will be?

My money is on Jabar. I think he is more of the prototypical Pats WR -- almost a poor man's Deion Branch.

Plus, from everything I've read he has a great personality and is well-liked in the locker room.

As far as Reche, I just think Caldwell gets lost in the numbers game. He was serviceable, but that's about it. I for one won't be sad to see he's gone.

 

[Kontradiction]

Jabar... playoff hero. Reche... dropped a big pass.

 

[Sporin]

I think Jabar, he was really coming on in the late games alts year and I don't think BB has forgotten Caldwell's drops.

 

[BelichickFan]

I can't even guess. However it Jackson is PUPed or IRed then they could both make it at the expense of Washington.

Moss
Stallworth
Welker
Brown
-----------
Caldwell
Gaffney
Washington
Jackson

The top 4 should make it, assuming Brown doesn't retire. Then you can pick, at most, 2 from the bottom group.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Both.

.....

 

[bradmahn]

Reche makes it over Jabar, easily.

 

[PushnPencils]

I'm no Reche hater, as he was a very valuable addition last year. He did have a few critical drops, but let's face it, the guy has never been more than a 3rd stringer since drafted.

That being said, Gaffney is my binky. Putting aside his great playoff production, he show flashes of immense talent as a possession receiver.

I think he has a MUCH greater upside than Caldwell, and unlike Reche seemed to thrive under the pressure of the playoff environment.

That end-zone catch against the Colts was the nail in Reche's coffin as far as I'm concerned.:rocker:

 

[tombonneau]

Reche makes it over Jabar, easily.

Why do you think this? I personally think Reche's size and style is too similar to Moss, Stallworth, & Washington to justify keeping him.

Meanwhile, I think Jabar is a great posession guy who can be be part of the Welker/Brown in the slot.

These gives you three bigger prototypical vertical guys:

Moss
Stallworth
Washington

and three smaller, shiftier posession guys:

Welker
Gaffney
Brown

To me that makes the most sense, vs. keeping only two of the smaller guys (that NE's offense historically prefers).

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

Reche did a great job to step up and take the role of starting receiver when the Pats needed someone to.

Late in the season Gaffney looked like the better receiver. The one advantage Reche seemed to have was familiarity with Brady.

Jackson is likely starting the season on PUP. Washington is only guaranteed something like 300K if he gets cut. If BB wants to keep both he will be able to. If one fails to compete for the job he can be cut.

Who knows. I figure Gaffney might get the nod over Reche, but I know nothing of how BB feels about them.

*edit* something worth mentioning now that I think of it is that everyone but Welker is signed for just this year. Moss and Stallworth may be too expensive in '08, so Gaffney or Caldwell may factor more into '08 than '07 if they're kept around and resigned.

 

[tombonneau]

*edit* something worth mentioning now that I think of it is that everyone but Welker is signed for just this year. Moss and Stallworth may be too expensive in '08, so Gaffney or Caldwell may factor more into '08 than '07 if they're kept around and resigned.

this is a good point. however, one could also argue that both will likely be available in 08 anyway, regardless of whether the pats sign them.

 

[satz]

reche for sure .rememeber when their no one he did step and bust his ass to be a #1 WR even though he did not have the skills for it.you cannot drop a guy who went beyond his talent for the team.

as a #2 WR he is very servicable and remember he was on WR screen with alot successfull one`s last season.Jabbar never did any of this patterns which involved TE and OL developing block down feild and running with patiences.

also ,after troy brown strip against SD the guy running to catch also was reche hence jumping on the ball getting it back for us. Its is the small thing but i think it tilts the balance to him.

 

[wdkantro2]

I think Reche gets a bad rap, purely because he had the title of "#1 receiver" coming into the year. Gaffney came in midseason with no expectations, so anything we got out of him was a positive. Reche didn't perform like a #1, but I think he is a more talented WR than Gaffney. Gaffney was just in a better position last year.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

I will take Jabar Gaffney over Caldwell... I do want to see what we get out of Kelly Washington, i think he has a good chance to do something

 

[ursa99]

Reche dropped THE big pass in the playoff game. For just that I would dump him considering our other receivers.

 

[JoeSixPat]

There's a long way to go between now and the start of the season... people tweak hamstrings and there are plenty of scenarios where Caldwell and Gaffney both make the team.

But I'd have to say that Brady had no choice to develop timing with Caldwell last year and that Caldwell has an edge on Gaffney in that regard.

Given their low salaries neither needs to be cut to save cap space - but Caldwell, Gaffney, Welker and Troy are all in the same 8-12 yard per catch category, so if there needs to be a choice there I don't see the need for all three - and Welker's not going anywhere

 

[patchick]

Both.

.....

I lean that way too. Right now they are the most experienced guys in the system, the likely security blankets until Brady gets in sync with the new toys. Say it's week 1 or 2, you need some crucial first downs, would you feel comfortable with Brady gazing out at Welker, Stallworth and Moss? Plenty of talent there, but not the mind-reading QB-WR link. Think of how much Brady leaned on Brown early last year in those situations.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Too bad we can't trade either of them because as good WRs with low salaries they'd probably be worth something to some team at the end of training camp should we not have any injuries (knock on wood)

Oh, wait! We can trade them!

... and the rich get richer

 

[braveht]

Why do you think this? I personally think Reche's size and style is too similar to Moss, Stallworth, & Washington to justify keeping him.

Meanwhile, I think Jabar is a great posession guy who can be be part of the Welker/Brown in the slot.

These gives you three bigger prototypical vertical guys:

Moss
Stallworth
Washington

and three smaller, shiftier posession guys:

Welker
Gaffney
Brown

To me that makes the most sense, vs. keeping only two of the smaller guys (that NE's offense historically prefers).

I disagree with your logic. I would prefer to have all receivers big= Moss size rather than smaller ones to "complement". Reason: Teams can match their big and small CBs if we have a small #2. If the WO's are both big, one CB will have to try to cover a big wideout. Welker and Brown are quick slot rcvrs, able to get free in the short zone.

 

[drewdagreat]

Neither. We have too many damn Gators as it is.

Seriously though, I'll go Reche. He has over 60 catches and has never stolen jewlery from his teammates like Jaburglar(just a little joke because of the Merriweather threads).

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

I'd be suprised if both don't make it, at least to start the year. Washington will likely DQ himself in camp. Never been impressed with him.