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Ok,we got our safety @ 24 and stockpiled some more picks for next year. Like it or not that's the way it is, so let's move on to day 2.

Who's still available that you would like the Pat's to draft? For me,if the Pat's manage to grab ILB Brandon Siler I will be very excited. I think he can do good things in a Pat's uni. I also like lb Zak Deossie out of Brown.
 
at this point, i could name every single player i know and i still dont think i'd hit.

right now i still have
bush
siler
gattis
john talley
david ball
darius walker
tim shaw
dallas sartz
jon abbate
zak deossie
desmond bishop
jared zabransky
and
tyler palko
 
at this point, i could name every single player i know and i still dont think i'd hit.

right now i still have
bush
siler
gattis
john talley
david ball
darius walker
tim shaw
dallas sartz
jon abbate
zak deossie
desmond bishop
jared zabransky
and
tyler palko

Yeah,day 1 has been like a bad trip to Vegas. But atleast the hotels had the decency to comp us for our visit next year.
 
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What makes you think the Patriots will use a pick on Day 2?
 
What makes you think the Patriots will use a pick on Day 2?

I'm sure we will trade all of our day 2 picks for a #4 next year. Then next year after Bruschi & Vrabel retire, we will pick a TE with one of the #1 picks, and trade the other #1 for a #1 in 2009. Then in 2009.......you get the picture. At least I'll save my money on draft guides the next few years.
 
RB Michael Bush. If he isn't taken then I guess there is some concern with his leg. Before the injury, he was a first round prospect.
 
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trade the other #1 for a #1 in 2009. Then in 2009.......you get the picture.
I know you are just trying to be a jerk here, but this is an excellent idea. Every year trade that first rounder for another pick and a next year's first rounder.

Every year you get an extra pick. Think of it.Year after year your base is eight picks vs everyone else's base of seven picks. And you always have an extra first rounder in case someone exceptional fall into your lap.

(If you goto patriots.com you will see an article which explains the trading the first pick for next year.)
 
It is fairly obvious that the Pats FO/scouts didn't want anything to do with this draft class. They didn't trade down...they traded out! They didn't get full value for either #28 or #91, which tells you how little they valued those picks this year. I don't think they wanted to take a day 1 prospect that they didn't strongly believe could make the gameday active 45. Don't want a first day pick to languish on the inactive list (sorry Marquise).

So what does this tell us about day 2 (9 picks, 4 must be used)? Pretty much search for some diamonds in the rough. Take some flyers and hope to score on 1 or 2 long-term propects that can help on special teams now. If there was ANYONE that they really liked that is still on the board, I think they would have kept #91.

Who should be on the radar? Contribute on special teams, position flexibility, intelligent/coachable. I have no idea who fits that profile. I'll get back to you tomorrow night.
 
Every year you get an extra pick. Think of it.Year after year your base is eight picks vs everyone else's base of seven picks. And you always have an extra first rounder in case someone exceptional fall into your lap.

Like Ben Watson. For a team like the Pats that expects to pick in the 25-32 range, having an extra 1st allows you to use the better pick and trade out of the lower one. Eventually, you are going to trade with someone that has a HORRIBLE year and lands you an elite prospect. Seattle's pick was dangerously close to being in the low-mid teens this year. They can make it up to us by throttling SF twice next year.
 
Maybe next year the Pats should put together a draft board? :D

(Seriously though, I think it was a good idea to trade out of the top of this draft. There was not a lot there, and we don't have many open roster spots).
 
An excellent analysis! They did get "full" value in that they clearly believe that next year's draft just has to be better than this year's.

It is fairly obvious that the Pats FO/scouts didn't want anything to do with this draft class. They didn't trade down...they traded out! They didn't get full value for either #28 or #91, which tells you how little they valued those picks this year. I don't think they wanted to take a day 1 prospect that they didn't strongly believe could make the gameday active 45. Don't want a first day pick to languish on the inactive list (sorry Marquise).

So what does this tell us about day 2 (9 picks, 4 must be used)? Pretty much search for some diamonds in the rough. Take some flyers and hope to score on 1 or 2 long-term propects that can help on special teams now. If there was ANYONE that they really liked that is still on the board, I think they would have kept #91.

Who should be on the radar? Contribute on special teams, position flexibility, intelligent/coachable. I have no idea who fits that profile. I'll get back to you tomorrow night.
 
Look for the Pats to concentrate on their compensatory picks.

They will probably trade the others.
 
at this point, i could name every single player i know and i still dont think i'd hit.

right now i still have
bush
siler
gattis
john talley
david ball
darius walker
tim shaw
dallas sartz
jon abbate
zak deossie
desmond bishop
jared zabransky
and
tyler palko
U guys don't like Rufus Alexander??
 
Just wait...one of our fourths is going towards a punter...
 
Daniel Sepulveda P Baylor
Michael Bush RB Louisville
Zak DeOssie LB Brown
Dwayne Wright RB Fresno St.
DeAndre Jackson CB Iowa St.

The bottom two should be there in the 6th and 7th.
 
Randy Moss
 
Welcome to day #2 and probably more of the same. Better you should

take your wife to Sunday brunch than wait and see what team ends up with

the Pats' two #4 draft choices. You will return from brunch in time to see the

Pats make their second selection in the draft (5th round compensatory pick).

Then, back to the Pats' 2007 draft strategy and say goodbye to two 6th

round choices. Then, joy as we select back to back 6th round choices

(compensatory picks). We really didn't want that #7 pick from Oakland

so off that goes in trade. We end the fiasco by signing our 7th round

compensatory pick.
 
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Wait, Manny Ramirez is still there for the taking!!!!

Just think of the fun we can have with that. Manny being Manny, I bet his jersey will sell! Hell Manny himslef might get confused and take the call from BB out in left field today!!!
 
Who's still available:
RB Mchael Bush
RB Antonio Pittman
RB Dwayne Wright
RB Kolby Smith
RB Ken Darby
RB Darius Walker
RB Deshawn Wynn
FB Le'Ron McClain
S John Wendling
S Josh Gattis
S Michael Johnson
S Marvin White
S Daren Stone
S Kevin Payne
S Brandon Harrison
S Melvin Bullitt
TE Ben Patrick
TE Martrez Milner
TE Joe Newton
QB Jordan Palmer
QB Jared Zabransky
LB Desmond Bishop
LB Brian Robison
LB Zak DeOssie
LB Prescott Burgess
LB Tim Shaw
LB Justin Warren
LB Rufus Alexander
LB Antwan Barnes
LB Earl Everett
LB Jay Moore
LB Brandon Siler
WR Aundrae Allison
WR Chris Davis
WR Courtney Taylor
WR Rhema McNight
WR Dallas Baker
NT Paul Soliai
NT Walter Thomas
DT Antonio Johnson
DE Baraka Atkins
OT Doug Free
CB Tanard Jackson
CB Fred Bennett
CB Kenny Scott
CB Michael Coe
CB CJ Gaddis
CB David Irons
CB DeAndre Jackson
P Daniel Sepulveda

Who I like the most from that list:
1. RB Mchael Bush (First round talent who fell because of the injury, at this point in the draft I'd take the chance.)
2. RB Antonio Pittman (I thought he was late second round talent so his still being available is a surprise to me.)
3. RB Dwayne Wright (I really like his game, and we're getting into the rounds were taking him should be a serious option.)

1. WR Aundrae Allison (I think he's late second/early third talent so his still being available is a surprise to me.)
2. WR Chris Davis (I thinkh fits NE's offense better than any WR available, and some already taken. Elusive, reliable hands, crisp route runner, and good at finding the hole in zone defense. He's Deion Branch like.)
3. WR Courtney Taylor (Good possession WR.)

1. S John Wendling (Best Safety available. Has great size to play SS, his coverage range is good, and he has better recovery ability than some think. I think he's the next John Lynch.)
2. S Josh Gattis (Good Safety with size who could play either FS or SS, and I think he's better than some of the Safeties already taken.)
3. S Michael Johnson (has the size to play either FS or SS, and his game is a little simular to Michael Griffins. With some time to develop he could be a very good Safety.

1. CB DeAndre Jackson (Without the injury he's gone in the first two rounds. He is physical in man-to-man, can play zone defense, supports the run, hits, ball skills, and is a good returner. He's a bigger version of Hobbs.)
2. CB Kenny Scott (Good CB with height, who just needs to add weight. Good in man coverage, supports th run, good tackler, experienced, and a return man.)
3. CB Michael Coe (Good size, physical, ball skills, good instincts, intelligent with good intangibles.)

1. ILB Desmond Bishop (Decent size, very good tackler, good instincts and awareness, strong against the run, motor never stops, has a nasty attitude, team leader, loves the game, and is a very hard worker.)
2. ILB Brandon Siler (Intelligent, instinctive, has all the intangibles, hits with power, solid tackler, good against the run, good blitzer/pass rusher, takes on blockers well, nasty, and experienced.)
3. ILB Prescott Burgess (Good size, good in coverage, plays faster than he times, very good ball skills, very good pursuit, high motor, hard worker, hits with force, and can play with an attitude. Has loads of upside.)
4. ILB Antwan Barnes (Very good speed and explosion, 22.5 tackles for loss in '06, very good pass rusher/blitzer who could be a fantastic small school sleeper.)

1. OLB Zak DeOssie (I'm putting him at OLB because that's the position he said he want's to play. Very good size, speed is good fr his size, high motor, good pursuit, good range, and is very good in coverage.)
2. OLB Brian Robison (Good size, has speed, good pass rusher, plays physica and is tough, very good pusuit, high motor, has all the intangibles, hard worker, experienced, very good on special teams where he was a PK blocking freak.)
3. OLB Jay Moore (Great size, tough and reliable, intelligent, always behind the LOS, very high motor, all the intangibles, hard worker, great bull rush, and versatile. Underrated becaus he played on the other side of Carriker.)

1. TE Ben Patrick (Has all-around skills, and frankly I'm surprised he's still on the board. BB had him in for a private workout and I think his value should be pretty high at this point in the draft.)

1. P Daniel Sepulveda (What's there to say, best punter available.)

1. NT Paul Soliai (Best NT available, and his value will start becoming to much to ignore.)
2. NT Walter Thomas (All potential, but worth taking a chance on in the later rounds (6-7).)
1. DT Antonio Johnson (I thought he would last this long, but I really like his game. If he's still on the board for NE's fifth round pick they'll have to seriously think about it.)
 
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