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ROUND ONE w/ trades

(1) Raiders - JAMARCUS RUSSELL, QB, LSU
I know they're attempting to bring in a QB so they can select Calvin, but nobody is interested in Moss or Porter.

(2) *TRADE* Falcons - CALVIN JOHNSON, WR, GEORGIA TECH
Detroit doesn't want the pressure of having to select this high. Atlanta has the extra picks to make this move & what better way to support Vick.

(3) Browns - JOE THOMAS, OT, WISCONSIN
With a history of bad luck with injury prone RBs Cleveland shys away from Peterson. Savage knows 1st hand as the GM during Baltimore's SB run that a franchise QB isn't always necessary.

(4) Buccaneers - GAINES ADAMS, DE, CLEMSON
They lose out on the Calvin sweepstakes, but get the future replacement for Simeon Rice instead.

(5) Cardinals - AMOBI OKOYE, DT, LOUISVILLE
With Thomas off the board the Cardinals look to address the DL with this 19 year old phenom.

(6) *TRADE* Dolphins - BRADY QUINN, QB, NOTRE DAME
Miami trades up ahead of Minnesota in case they or Detriot had their eyes on the potential franchise QB.

(7) Vikings - LARON LANDRY, S, LSU
Minnesota would prefer to trade down & get a WR, but they probably won't find any buyers. Landry will become Sharper's future replacement & should help improve their run D.

(8) Lions - PATRICK WILLIS, LB, MISSISSIPPI
A bit of a reach perhaps, but Detroit is desperate to fix this defense. Along side Sims, Willis makes for a great combo at LB.

(9) Redskins - LEVI BROWN, OT, PENN STATE
Replacing Samuels should go along way in improving this OL. Without a pick in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th rounds Snyder would be wise to trade down.

(10) Texans - ADRIAN PETERSON, RB, OKLAHOMA
Houston may be the happiest team on draft day. Peterson slides right into their laps & just maybe helps the fans forget about Reggie Bush.

(11) 49ers - ALAN BRANCH, DT, MICHIGAN
In order to have an effective 3-4 you need a massive NT who can take on multiple blockers.

(12) Bills - LEON HALL, CB, MICHIGAN
Replacing Clements will be a point of emphasis come draft day. Hall is a better value than Lynch at this point.

(13) Rams - JAMAAL ANDERSON, DE, ARKANSAS
The defense needs a major face lift. Linehan understands the importance of having a solid pass rush.

(14) Panthers - TED GINN JR, WR, OHIO STATE
A burner alongside Smith is just what the doctor ordered for this offense. Ginn's return skills will make him extra valuable to Carolina.

(15) Steelers - DARRELLE REVIS, CB, PITTSBURGH
Pittsburg should know better than to let this local product slip past them here. Revis presents great value & he should fit right in with that D.

(16) Packers - MARSHAWN LYNCH, RB, CALIFORNIA
Ahman Green he is not, but Lynch's versatility should make for a great weapon for Brett Favre.

(17) Jaguars - REGGIE NELSON, S, FLORIDA
Jacksonville misses out on Ted Ginn, but in the process see the 2nd best S slide to them here.

(18) Bengals - PAUL POSLUSZNY, LB, PENN STATE
Cincinnati assures themselves of getting a high character guy in Paul. His tenacity isn't lacking either.

(19) Titans - CHRIS HOUSTON, CB, ARKANSAS
Pacman is gone for the season & Tennessee needs a shut down corner if they're going to compete with Indy.

(20) Giants - LAWRENCE TIMMONS, LB, FLORIDA STATE
Depth has been a concern at LB for the Giants. After losing Emmons & Arrington there is no greater need right now.

(21) Broncos - JOE STALEY, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Revamping a once great OL will be crucial for the future success of Jay Cutler in Denver.

(22) Cowboys - ADAM CARRIKER, DE, NEBRASKA
Dallas lands the perfect fit for their 3-4 defense. Adam will be a great bookend with Marcus Spears.

(23) Chiefs - DWAYNE BOWE, WR, LSU
Kansas City lacks a receiving threat outside of Tony Gonzalez. Bowe will give them another weapon in the red zone.

(24) Patriots - ROBERT MEACHEM, WR, TENNESSEE
Not a great need right now, but with Stallworth likely only here for 1 year the value is too great to pass up. Besides we all know last season was the year of the Gator WRs & that this year is clearly the Vols turn. :p

(25) Jets - GREG OLSEN, TE, MIAMI
NYJ have been lacking a consistent TE threat for a long time. Olsen shot up many boards with his workout at the combine.

(26) *TRADE* Lions - MARCUS MCCAULEY, CB, FRESNO STATE
Detroit trades up to nab their guy in fear that New Orleans may take him. With the loss of Dre Bly getting a CB of size is imperative.

(27) Saints - AARON ROSS, CB, TEXAS
New Orleans still manages to get a quality CB without much drop off in value. Ross also has value as a returner.

(28) Patriots - BRANDON MERIWEATHER, S, MIAMI
Preferably I think we would like to trade down here, but the only potential buyer at this point might be Tampa. Meriweather has the versatility to play CB as well as S.

(29) Ravens - JUSTIN BLALOCK, G, TEXAS
Pretty much the consensus pick with the aging OL. Run blocking is Blalock's strong suit, which should fit in well with what Baltimore likes to do.

(30) Chargers - MICHAEL GRIFFIN, S, TEXAS
As deep as the WR class is this year it would be a reach to select one here. SD has to address the S position.

(31) Bears - ZACH MILLER, TE, ARIZONA STATE
Chicago picks up a great weapon for Rex. Zach has more in common with Todd Heap than just being a TE from ASU.

(32) Colts - JON BEASON, LB, MIAMI
The late run on DBs forces Indy to hold off on addressing their most obvious need. Replacing Cato June is also crucial to their attempt at repeating.


*Detroit trades #2 to Atlanta for #8, #39 & #44
*Washington trades #6 to Miami for #9 & #60
*Philadelphia trades #26, #90 & #162 to Detroit for #34, #66 & #101 :eat2:
 
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Good mock with interesting picks. But why Meacham? We don't need a Chad Jackson no. 2. He is the same type of receiver.

I am starting to think to jump on the Meriweather bandwagon. He had some problems but he is probably not a trouble maker per se.
 
Good mock with interesting picks. But why Meacham? We don't need a Chad Jackson no. 2. He is the same type of receiver.

I am starting to think to jump on the Meriweather bandwagon. He had some problems but he is probably not a trouble maker per se.


i dont like the Meachem pick but thats not because of the player he is..its his position. were full at WR

same type of player as CJ? CJ is a very good player..he didnt learn playbook ..his talent is undeniable..its his mental side..
 
ROUND ONE w/ trades

(1) Raiders - JAMARCUS RUSSELL, QB, LSU
I know they're attempting to bring in a QB so they can select Calvin, but nobody is interested in Moss or Porter.

(2) *TRADE* Falcons - CALVIN JOHNSON, WR, GEORGIA TECH
Detroit doesn't want the pressure of having to select this high. Atlanta has the extra picks to make this move & what better way to support Vick.

(3) Browns - JOE THOMAS, OT, WISCONSIN
With a history of bad luck with injury prone RBs Cleveland shys away from Peterson. Savage knows 1st hand as the GM during Baltimore's SB run that a franchise QB isn't always necessary.

(4) Buccaneers - GAINES ADAMS, DE, CLEMSON
They lose out on the Calvin sweepstakes, but get the future replacement for Simeon Rice instead.

(5) Cardinals - AMOBI OKOYE, DT, LOUISVILLE
With Thomas off the board the Cardinals look to address the DL with this 19 year old phenom.

(6) *TRADE* Dolphins - BRADY QUINN, QB, NOTRE DAME
Miami trades up ahead of Minnesota in case they or Detriot had their eyes on the potential franchise QB.

(7) Vikings - LARON LANDRY, S, LSU
Minnesota would prefer to trade down & get a WR, but they probably won't find any buyers. Landry will become Sharper's future replacement & should help improve their run D.

(8) Lions - PATRICK WILLIS, LB, MISSISSIPPI
A bit of a reach perhaps, but Detroit is desperate to fix this defense. Along side Sims, Willis makes for a great combo at LB.

(9) Redskins - LEVI BROWN, OT, PENN STATE
Replacing Samuels should go along way in improving this OL. Without a pick in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th rounds Snyder would be wise to trade down.

(10) Texans - ADRIAN PETERSON, RB, OKLAHOMA
Houston may be the happiest team on draft day. Peterson slides right into their laps & just maybe helps the fans forget about Reggie Bush.

(11) 49ers - ALAN BRANCH, DT, MICHIGAN
In order to have an effective 3-4 you need a massive NT who can take on multiple blockers.

(12) Bills - LEON HALL, CB, MICHIGAN
Replacing Clements will be a point of emphasis come draft day. Hall is a better value than Lynch at this point.

(13) Rams - JAMAAL ANDERSON, DE, ARKANSAS
The defense needs a major face lift. Linehan understands the importance of having a solid pass rush.

(14) Panthers - TED GINN JR, WR, OHIO STATE
A burner alongside Smith is just what the doctor ordered for this offense. Ginn's return skills will make him extra valuable to Carolina.

(15) Steelers - DARRELLE REVIS, CB, PITTSBURGH
Pittsburg should know better than to let this local product slip past them here. Revis presents great value & he should fit right in with that D.

(16) Packers - MARSHAWN LYNCH, RB, CALIFORNIA
Ahman Green he is not, but Lynch's versatility should make for a great weapon for Brett Favre.

(17) Jaguars - REGGIE NELSON, S, FLORIDA
Jacksonville misses out on Ted Ginn, but in the process see the 2nd best S slide to them here.

(18) Bengals - PAUL POSLUSZNY, LB, PENN STATE
Cincinnati assures themselves of getting a high character guy in Paul. His tenacity isn't lacking either.

(19) Titans - CHRIS HOUSTON, CB, ARKANSAS
Pacman is gone for the season & Tennessee needs a shut down corner if they're going to compete with Indy.

(20) Giants - LAWRENCE TIMMONS, LB, FLORIDA STATE
Depth has been a concern at LB for the Giants. After losing Emmons & Arrington there is no greater need right now.

(21) Broncos - JOE STALEY, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Revamping a once great OL will be crucial for the future success of Jay Cutler in Denver.

(22) Cowboys - ADAM CARRIKER, DE, NEBRASKA
Dallas lands the perfect fit for their 3-4 defense. Adam will be a great bookend with Marcus Spears.

(23) Chiefs - DWAYNE BOWE, WR, LSU
Kansas City lacks a receiving threat outside of Tony Gonzalez. Bowe will give them another weapon in the red zone.

(24) Patriots - ROBERT MEACHEM, WR, TENNESSEE
Not a great need right now, but with Stallworth likely only here for 1 year the value is too great to pass up. Besides we all know last season was the year of the Gator WRs & that this year is clearly the Vols turn. :p

(25) Jets - GREG OLSEN, TE, MIAMI
NYJ have been lacking a consistent TE threat for a long time. Olsen shot up many boards with his workout at the combine.

(26) *TRADE* Lions - MARCUS MCCAULEY, CB, FRESNO STATE
Detroit trades up to nab their guy in fear that New Orleans may take him. With the loss of Dre Bly getting a CB of size is imperative.

(27) Saints - AARON ROSS, CB, TEXAS
New Orleans still manages to get a quality CB without much drop off in value. Ross also has value as a returner.

(28) Patriots - BRANDON MERIWEATHER, S, MIAMI
Preferably I think we would like to trade down here, but the only potential buyer at this point might be Tampa. Meriweather has the versatility to play CB as well as S.

(29) Ravens - JUSTIN BLALOCK, G, TEXAS
Pretty much the consensus pick with the aging OL. Run blocking is Blalock's strong suit, which should fit in well with what Baltimore likes to do.

(30) Chargers - MICHAEL GRIFFIN, S, TEXAS
As deep as the WR class is this year it would be a reach to select one here. SD has to address the S position.

(31) Bears - ZACH MILLER, TE, ARIZONA STATE
Chicago picks up a great weapon for Rex. Zach has more in common with Todd Heap than just being a TE from ASU.

(32) Colts - JON BEASON, LB, MIAMI
The late run on DBs forces Indy to hold off on addressing their most obvious need. Replacing Cato June is also crucial to their attempt at repeating.


*Detroit trades #2 to Atlanta for #8, #39 & #44
*Washington trades #6 to Miami for #9 & #60
*Philadelphia trades #26, #90 & #162 to Detroit for #34, #66 & #101 :eat2:

I'll take Meachem and Meriweather in a heart beat.
 
there are other positions i'd want more than WR in the first round, but i'd be okay with that draft.
 
Just curious, under this scenario who would you take instead? Even if he were there, I'm not on the PP bandwagon. I just don't think he fits our need at ILB. Meachem showed improvement with each year. He not only has good size he's also a burner. His versatility allows him to be lined up in multiple areas. With two picks in the 1st round I think we can get away with drafting best player available at 24 & still address a need with the other.
 
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Just curious, under this scenario who would you take instead? Even if he were there, I'm not on the PP bandwagon. I just don't think he fits our need at ILB. Meachem showed improvement with each year. He not only has good size he's also a burner. His versatility allows him to be lined up in multiple areas. With two picks in the 1st round I think we can get away with drafting best player available at 24 & still address a need with the other.

give us Beason instead of Meachem..i mean we have too many needs to take a loaded position

McCauley also isnt a first rounder and Carrriker wont fall out of top 15
 
I'd say the Pats are more likely to take Beason over Meachem at 24 since he fills more of an immediate AND future need, assuming a few things;

1. No trades. Of the players you have left, I am not sure any of them are of value for #24.

2. They take Meriweather, or another DB, at 28.

3. Those are the players they have to pick from.
 
give us Beason instead of Meachem..i mean we have too many needs to take a loaded position

McCauley also isnt a first rounder and Carrriker wont fall out of top 15

We're a favorite by most experts to go to the Super Bowl already. We don't have too many holes IMO. S/ILB are really the only two major needs along with CB if Samuel leaves. Beason doesn't fit the mold of an ILB in the 3-4.

In a perfect world I'd like to see the Pats trade back into the 2nd round & select a combo of either David Harris/John Wendling or Eric Weddle/Stewart Bradley with our 2nd & 3rd round picks respectively. These guys would be a much better fit IMO.
 
We're a favorite by most experts to go to the Super Bowl already. We don't have too many holes IMO. S/ILB are really the only two major needs along with CB if Samuel leaves. Beason doesn't fit the mold of an ILB in the 3-4.

In a perfect world I'd like to see the Pats trade back into the 2nd round & select a combo of either David Harris/John Wendling or Eric Weddle/Stewart Bradley with our 2nd & 3rd round picks respectively. These guys would be a much better fit IMO.

I've read in a couple of places that Harris is moving up. Even if he is a "second round value" his value increases the moment Wilis goes of the board.
 
ROUND ONE w/ trades

(1) Raiders - JAMARCUS RUSSELL, QB, LSU
I know they're attempting to bring in a QB so they can select Calvin, but nobody is interested in Moss or Porter.

(2) *TRADE* Falcons - CALVIN JOHNSON, WR, GEORGIA TECH
Detroit doesn't want the pressure of having to select this high. Atlanta has the extra picks to make this move & what better way to support Vick.

(3) Browns - JOE THOMAS, OT, WISCONSIN
With a history of bad luck with injury prone RBs Cleveland shys away from Peterson. Savage knows 1st hand as the GM during Baltimore's SB run that a franchise QB isn't always necessary.

(4) Buccaneers - GAINES ADAMS, DE, CLEMSON
They lose out on the Calvin sweepstakes, but get the future replacement for Simeon Rice instead.

(5) Cardinals - AMOBI OKOYE, DT, LOUISVILLE
With Thomas off the board the Cardinals look to address the DL with this 19 year old phenom.

(6) *TRADE* Dolphins - BRADY QUINN, QB, NOTRE DAME
Miami trades up ahead of Minnesota in case they or Detriot had their eyes on the potential franchise QB.

(7) Vikings - LARON LANDRY, S, LSU
Minnesota would prefer to trade down & get a WR, but they probably won't find any buyers. Landry will become Sharper's future replacement & should help improve their run D.

(8) Lions - PATRICK WILLIS, LB, MISSISSIPPI
A bit of a reach perhaps, but Detroit is desperate to fix this defense. Along side Sims, Willis makes for a great combo at LB.

(9) Redskins - LEVI BROWN, OT, PENN STATE
Replacing Samuels should go along way in improving this OL. Without a pick in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th rounds Snyder would be wise to trade down.

(10) Texans - ADRIAN PETERSON, RB, OKLAHOMA
Houston may be the happiest team on draft day. Peterson slides right into their laps & just maybe helps the fans forget about Reggie Bush.

(11) 49ers - ALAN BRANCH, DT, MICHIGAN
In order to have an effective 3-4 you need a massive NT who can take on multiple blockers.

(12) Bills - LEON HALL, CB, MICHIGAN
Replacing Clements will be a point of emphasis come draft day. Hall is a better value than Lynch at this point.

(13) Rams - JAMAAL ANDERSON, DE, ARKANSAS
The defense needs a major face lift. Linehan understands the importance of having a solid pass rush.

(14) Panthers - TED GINN JR, WR, OHIO STATE
A burner alongside Smith is just what the doctor ordered for this offense. Ginn's return skills will make him extra valuable to Carolina.

(15) Steelers - DARRELLE REVIS, CB, PITTSBURGH
Pittsburg should know better than to let this local product slip past them here. Revis presents great value & he should fit right in with that D.

(16) Packers - MARSHAWN LYNCH, RB, CALIFORNIA
Ahman Green he is not, but Lynch's versatility should make for a great weapon for Brett Favre.

(17) Jaguars - REGGIE NELSON, S, FLORIDA
Jacksonville misses out on Ted Ginn, but in the process see the 2nd best S slide to them here.

(18) Bengals - PAUL POSLUSZNY, LB, PENN STATE
Cincinnati assures themselves of getting a high character guy in Paul. His tenacity isn't lacking either.

(19) Titans - CHRIS HOUSTON, CB, ARKANSAS
Pacman is gone for the season & Tennessee needs a shut down corner if they're going to compete with Indy.

(20) Giants - LAWRENCE TIMMONS, LB, FLORIDA STATE
Depth has been a concern at LB for the Giants. After losing Emmons & Arrington there is no greater need right now.

(21) Broncos - JOE STALEY, OT, CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Revamping a once great OL will be crucial for the future success of Jay Cutler in Denver.

(22) Cowboys - ADAM CARRIKER, DE, NEBRASKA
Dallas lands the perfect fit for their 3-4 defense. Adam will be a great bookend with Marcus Spears.

(23) Chiefs - DWAYNE BOWE, WR, LSU
Kansas City lacks a receiving threat outside of Tony Gonzalez. Bowe will give them another weapon in the red zone.

(24) Patriots - ROBERT MEACHEM, WR, TENNESSEE
Not a great need right now, but with Stallworth likely only here for 1 year the value is too great to pass up. Besides we all know last season was the year of the Gator WRs & that this year is clearly the Vols turn. :p

(25) Jets - GREG OLSEN, TE, MIAMI
NYJ have been lacking a consistent TE threat for a long time. Olsen shot up many boards with his workout at the combine.

(26) *TRADE* Lions - MARCUS MCCAULEY, CB, FRESNO STATE
Detroit trades up to nab their guy in fear that New Orleans may take him. With the loss of Dre Bly getting a CB of size is imperative.

(27) Saints - AARON ROSS, CB, TEXAS
New Orleans still manages to get a quality CB without much drop off in value. Ross also has value as a returner.

(28) Patriots - BRANDON MERIWEATHER, S, MIAMI
Preferably I think we would like to trade down here, but the only potential buyer at this point might be Tampa. Meriweather has the versatility to play CB as well as S.

(29) Ravens - JUSTIN BLALOCK, G, TEXAS
Pretty much the consensus pick with the aging OL. Run blocking is Blalock's strong suit, which should fit in well with what Baltimore likes to do.

(30) Chargers - MICHAEL GRIFFIN, S, TEXAS
As deep as the WR class is this year it would be a reach to select one here. SD has to address the S position.

(31) Bears - ZACH MILLER, TE, ARIZONA STATE
Chicago picks up a great weapon for Rex. Zach has more in common with Todd Heap than just being a TE from ASU.

(32) Colts - JON BEASON, LB, MIAMI
The late run on DBs forces Indy to hold off on addressing their most obvious need. Replacing Cato June is also crucial to their attempt at repeating.


*Detroit trades #2 to Atlanta for #8, #39 & #44
*Washington trades #6 to Miami for #9 & #60
*Philadelphia trades #26, #90 & #162 to Detroit for #34, #66 & #101 :eat2:

Cousin,
Very good job. Lots of work! I don't "waste" a pic on a WR, not that I think Meachem is a waste. There appears to be other players within a few notches in quality that are a better fit for holes. Remember, the Pats fooled everyone last year and if you look, actually drafted for need!....Shocked? Check it. It was interesting?
DW Toys
 
We're a favorite by most experts to go to the Super Bowl already. We don't have too many holes IMO. S/ILB are really the only two major needs along with CB if Samuel leaves. Beason doesn't fit the mold of an ILB in the 3-4.

In a perfect world I'd like to see the Pats trade back into the 2nd round & select a combo of either David Harris/John Wendling or Eric Weddle/Stewart Bradley with our 2nd & 3rd round picks respectively. These guys would be a much better fit IMO.

oh really..Beason doesnt fit? Explains why Patriots.com and Reiss are putting this guy all over our board. Why doesnt he fit ? Size?
..for the 400000th time..i post this quote
As part of his annual predraft scouting trip to Florida, Patriots coach Bill Belichick spent "quite a bit of time" with Florida State linebacker Ernie Sims. Belichick came away impressed, but the Lions ended up snatching Sims at No. 9, well before the Patriots picked (21st). Sims enters today's game against the Patriots with a team-high 109 tackles and has several of the qualities the Patriots generally seek. "He's a football guy. Business. Very competitive. Very intense," said Belichick, noting that even though Sims is undersized at 6 feet, 225 pounds, he still could have fit in the middle of a 3-4 defense. "I think football is important to him and he plays like it on the field. Every play he's after you."

explains why we also talked to Beason and met with him a few times..
 
^^^

I'm really starting to believe that the Pats are taking Beason. Athletic, hustles, excellent going sideline-to-sideline. Plus, he's one of the few LBs available who has the ability to cover the Dallas Clark's of the world...
 
give us Beason instead of Meachem..i mean we have too many needs to take a loaded position

McCauley also isnt a first rounder and Carrriker wont fall out of top 15

And Steven Jackson wouldn't fall out of the top 10. Neither would Vince Wilfork. Aaron Rodgers is a guaranteed top 5 pick. Ernest Shazor is a guaranteed top 10 pick.

Any of that sound familiar?

You can't say that Carriker WON'T fall out of the top 15 unless you are claiming to be some kind of savant.

There are always players falling out of the top 15. Players who have damn good talent and SHOULDN'T fall out of the top 15 but do.
 
And Steven Jackson wouldn't fall out of the top 10. Neither would Vince Wilfork. Aaron Rodgers is a guaranteed top 5 pick. Ernest Shazor is a guaranteed top 10 pick.

Any of that sound familiar?

You can't say that Carriker WON'T fall out of the top 15 unless you are claiming to be some kind of savant.

There are always players falling out of the top 15. Players who have damn good talent and SHOULDN'T fall out of the top 15 but do.

its an opinion. just watch
 
its an opinion. just watch

It was a statement. Opinions usually say I think or I believe.

And yes, we will all be watching.

And when its done, you can come in here crowing about Carriker, but be prepared to have the names of other "top 15" players thrown back at you.
 
It was a statement. Opinions usually say I think or I believe.

And yes, we will all be watching.

And when its done, you can come in here crowing about Carriker, but be prepared to have the names of other "top 15" players thrown back at you.

i dont need to say "i think or i believe" because i already strongly believe it that its like a statement in my midn but should be an opinion to the public
 
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