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So every move that happens in the nfl has a domino effect, some more than others
the trade of trent green could have a HUGE domino effect on the league
lets say that with the move culpepper is released
and lets also say for arguments sake that culpepper is then picked up by oakland, and they then select calvin johnson
what could happen because of that is a selection of adrian peterson by tampa bay, and a trade of cadillac williams
let's say that the team that trades for cadillac was the team that was gonna take lynch (buffalo? green bay? tennesse? giants?)
with dillon and turner (maybe) still goin to one of those teams, lynch could fall if all this happens
of course there are numerous other possibilities that could happen because of this move
 
why would Patriots waste a round 1 pick on a RB? ARe we not happy with Maroney? Lynch isnt a compliment to Maroney..hes like Maroney and many comparsions get made. Maroney is faster, quicker and stronger than Lynch.
 
what could happen because of that is a selection of adrian peterson by tampa bay, and a trade of cadillac williams

Why would the Buccaneers trade Cadillac? He's had injury problems, sure, but he's shown he can be very productive when he's healthy. Two years is barely enough chances for someone with a lot of natural talent.
 
Why would the Buccaneers trade Cadillac? He's had injury problems, sure, but he's shown he can be very productive when he's healthy. Two years is barely enough chances for someone with a lot of natural talent.

yeah thats stupid to consider..Cadillac is very talented..their OL needs some straightening out to do but they are heading the right way
 
Sammy Morris is no schmuck - I'm fine with him and Maroney as our top two with Faulk in his normal role and an emergency starter. I'd take a RB later in the draft and hope to get lucky but I don't want a first round RB.
 
i think you guys are missing my point of this thread
i just meant my scenario as one possibilty of how a trade that you would think would have no further impact on the league, end up actually having this huge domino effect on many teams

i for one love sammy morris and think he'll make a great duo with maroney
that being said, if lynch was there at 24 and nelson and willis arent, id take lynch in a heartbeat
 
i think you guys are missing my point of this thread
i just meant my scenario as one possibilty of how a trade that you would think would have no further impact on the league, end up actually having this huge domino effect on many teams

i for one love sammy morris and think he'll make a great duo with maroney
that being said, if lynch was there at 24 and nelson and willis arent, id take lynch in a heartbeat
maroney is the featured franchise back , they arentgoing to draft another in the first round
 
maroney is the featured franchise back , they arentgoing to draft another in the first round

ok
so another scenario could happen
cleveland calls, having past on peterson in the first
says they'll give us their second and next yrs first for number 24 so they can take lynch
 
ok
so another scenario could happen
cleveland calls, having past on peterson in the first
says they'll give us their second and next yrs first for number 24 so they can take lynch


..............Sold!
 
i think you guys are missing my point of this thread
i just meant my scenario as one possibilty of how a trade that you would think would have no further impact on the league, end up actually having this huge domino effect on many teams

i for one love sammy morris and think he'll make a great duo with maroney
that being said, if lynch was there at 24 and nelson and willis arent, id take lynch in a heartbeat

FWIW, Lynch to the Pats at #24 is what happened in the PatsFans interactive mock draft. Lynch was choosen over Meachem and Chris Houston. Mavfan2390 picked McCauley at #28.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=53764

I wouldn't rule it out in real life. Maroney-Lynch tandem is scary for opposing defenses.
 
If the Pats selected Lynch in the first round, this would be by far the dumbest decision since the Lions selected three recievers in the first round 3 years in a row.
 
If the Pats selected Lynch in the first round, this would be by far the dumbest decision since the Lions selected three recievers in the first round 3 years in a row.

I don't know about that. The Giants trading for Eli Manning looks a lot dumber than either of those trades.

Not that I don't agree with your point. I don't think that a Maroney-Lynch cmobination would be scary because they have essentially the same skills. Reading Lynch's draft profile.

Positives: Has a solid build with good upper body muscle definition, big bubble, thick thighs, high calves, broad shoulders, good chest thickness … Can generate a second gear to separate in the open and has the nimble feet needed to make precise lateral cuts… His loose hips and change-of-direction agility make him very elusive avoiding traffic … Keeps his feet after contact and has the pick-and-slide agility to elude when running in-line … Runs with a normal stride, but is very crisp redirecting on the move … Has a good understanding of the offense and blocking schemes … Shows the vision to locate the soft areas in the zone and shows no hesitation redirecting when rush lanes are clogged … Effective blocker and a tough inside runner who loves to challenge the defender in one-on-one situations … Will aggressively take on a tackler and will sacrifice his body to compete for the pass over the middle … Mentally tough character who doesn't let mistakes take him out of his game … Highly respected by his teammates and staff, bringing a good attitude into the locker room with his work ethic and ability to keep the players "loose" … Shows good in-stride quickness when adjusting his direction and can clear the line of scrimmage in an instant when he keeps his pad level down … Has a quick burst out of his stance and shows steady acceleration on his long runs … Has that competitive quickness and balance, along with loose hips to redirect and separate in the open … Excels at finding cutback lanes … Has the ability to bounce off the tackle and make the initial defender miss … Patient runner who has success because of his feel for the rush lanes, as it is rare to see him run into traffic … Downhill runner with the slippery moves and change-of-direction agility to get through trash … Very good stop-and-go runner, whose precise cutting agility will generally cause the initial tackler overrun and overpursue … Compensates for a lack of sudden sustained speed with very good lateral slide and veering moves to avoid … His balance lets him keep his feet, redirect and race through cutback lanes to gain additional yardage after contact … Has soft, natural hands and does a good job of catching the ball outside his frame … Possesses the vision to look the ball in over his outside shoulder and the cutting agility to separate after the catch … Willing blocker with a good eye for picking up the blitz … Shows good intent and aggression chipping on edge rushers and gives the quarterback enough room to operate when protecting the pocket.

Negatives: Not an explosive runner around the corner, but shows very good patience waiting for blocks to develop … Has good body lean, but sometimes gets too high in his stance when attempting to race into the second level, failing to sidestep low blocks in the process … Can be tripped up when he gets tall in his stance, as he does not always protect his feet … Knows how to get skinny through tight creases, but needs to improve his leg drive, as he is not the type of running who can move the pile … Will sometimes get too fancy and execute multiple moves, allowing the defender to recover … Needs to distribute the ball better to keep it away from the defenders to prevent costly fumbles … Protects the ball better running through traffic than when bouncing outside, but also struggled some when handling a pitch or toss.

That sounds very, very familiar to me. It isn't scary if you're facing two of the same exact thing because you can just gameplan against one.
 
I don't know about that. The Giants trading for Eli Manning looks a lot dumber than either of those trades.

Not that I don't agree with your point. I don't think that a Maroney-Lynch cmobination would be scary because they have essentially the same skills. Reading Lynch's draft profile.



That sounds very, very familiar to me. It isn't scary if you're facing two of the same exact thing because you can just gameplan against one.

yes but even though its optimal to have two running backs with different styles that are both equally efficient, its still almost as good to have two of the same styles
if they can both get it done its not a bad thing
the biggest problem of having only one running back on your team (over the season) is that they wear down

maroney and lynch on their fifteenth carry late in the game is better than maroney on his 30th
 
ok
so another scenario could happen
cleveland calls, having past on peterson in the first
says they'll give us their second and next yrs first for number 24 so they can take lynch
dream on dream on it aint going to happen, but if it makes you feel good thinking of these dreams, all the power to you
 
yes but even though its optimal to have two running backs with different styles that are both equally efficient, its still almost as good to have two of the same styles
if they can both get it done its not a bad thing
the biggest problem of having only one running back on your team (over the season) is that they wear down

maroney and lynch on their fifteenth carry late in the game is better than maroney on his 30th

RB's have the shortest career span and they get hurt easily. We're already going to a zone blocking scheme to accomodate one RB, so here's another one who projects to flourish in the same system. We can't bring a smashmouth type runner (Dillon) and Morris is no sure thing. I have don't have a problem with taking Lynch if he's there. I'd rather take a RB early than a WR. It's an issue of depth.
 
imo- the buccs would be better off taking lynch and keeping caddy

lynch and caddy both arent workhorses

at auburn caddy shared carries with ronnie brown, and lynch split with jjarringtong 2 years ago, and someone else(dont know his name lo lsorry) last year....

it showed how caddy isnt a featured back type ...i'd know personally b/c i had him as one of my hb's in my fantasy league....every week i kept saying, "ok this is when caddy has his break out week"

but every week always disapointed me....

lol thats a lot of stretching...i dont think the nfl is ready to trade players as freely as the mlb or nba,at least they dotn tend to move players around a lot via trades....

imo if the raiders signed a released culpepper...they'd be more than happy to take cj....b/c culpepper has a deep arm and reuniting him with moss will only benefit the team

dont see it happening, but there's always that chance
 
yes but even though its optimal to have two running backs with different styles that are both equally efficient, its still almost as good to have two of the same styles
if they can both get it done its not a bad thing
the biggest problem of having only one running back on your team (over the season) is that they wear down

maroney and lynch on their fifteenth carry late in the game is better than maroney on his 30th

i'm excited to see how maroney reacts this coming season

will we be seeing another stephen jackson sort of emergence out of new england??
 
RB's have the shortest career span and they get hurt easily. We're already going to a zone blocking scheme to accomodate one RB, so here's another one who projects to flourish in the same system. We can't bring a smashmouth type runner (Dillon) and Morris is no sure thing. I have don't have a problem with taking Lynch if he's there. I'd rather take a RB early than a WR. It's an issue of depth.

i agree.....i still see lynch as a compliment back

and with more and more 2 back systems coming into the nfl..you never know..

i think though trading up for lynch is stupid...if he falls...then yeah take him...if he doesnt fall....maybe the pats could pick up a safety at 24 and trade down with the 28 and pick up a late 2nd/early3rd picks and possibly go for a michael bush? lol...
 
I think the most interesting part of your list of scenarios is the Culpepper to Oakland part.

Could Culpepper and Moss be reunited. I say, yes, but not for long. After all, if Oakland gets Culpepper, that means they will draft Calvin Johnson and thus be more inspired to trade Moss.

IT would be interesting though to see if that combo could rekindle the magic.
 
If the Pats selected Lynch in the first round, this would be by far the dumbest decision since the Lions selected three recievers in the first round 3 years in a row.

Ya - its not like the last 4 teams playing in 2007 had implemented a duel running back system or anything.
 


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