Asante wants Nate Clements $$$$$

[DefenseRules]

Isn't that more money than Richard Seymour got? If so, there is no way in HELL that the Pats would pay this guy more than Seymour. NO WAY!

 

[BradyManny]

Frankly my preference would be to move him out now and just avoid the inescapable drama that will surround eventually getting him into camp on the eve of the season. As mg said in one of his posts yesterday I'm not all that keen on playing a player who will be continually dealing with the conflicts inherrent in both trying to reprise and career season and not risk getting injured. I would much rather get the best compensation I can for him now than just one more season's use, and pre draft rather than post draft for obvious reasons since whether he plays one more season here or none we are better served to get another young CB situated in the pipeline and on the roster this year rather than next year.

Of course, there's another very tangible and real reason to move him as fast as they can, and that's knowing exactly what is happening with the $8 mill he'd have coming his way with the tag.

 

[BelichickFan]

Teams like Tennessee or the Saints might be willing to just give there number 1 straight out for Samuel.

Tenessee is #19 - that gets us to within striking range of Revis or even Hall if we're willing to pay a higher price. Saints at #27, I'd want more than just that.

Patriots are in a pretty good spot, Samuel can threaten to holdout all he wants but he won't - it's 500K (that's half a million) per game.

 

[Armen Da Pats Fan]

Nate Clements is a veteran who has done it well for many years - Asante Samuel is a kid who had one great season.

That said, Nate Clements isn't even worth "Nate Clements $$$$$$$", so I know Asante isn't worth "Nate Clements $$$$$$$$"!

Just shut up and play for $7.9m and be happy you're not slinging rock and pimping chickenheads on 31st Avenue and 19th Street in Lauderdale like all your teammates from Boyd Anderson HS!

Ungrateful ba$ tard!

You know the "I gotta feed my family" and "I jes' need re-spek" lines are coming soon from Ty Law, Jr.!

ADPF

 

[DaBruinz]

Like many of you, I am appalled at the tidbit that Reiss put in his column. There is NO FRIGGIN WAY Asante is worth 10 mill a year over the 1st 3 years of his contract. NONE. Unless he became the 2nd coming of Michael Haynes when we all weren't looking.

Basically, what Asante is asking for is what he'd get if the Pats franchised him 3 consecutive times. This year at 7.79, next year at 9.24 and the final year at what the QBs are going to be projected for next year. It utter stupidity.

Asante, don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out. You are a good player, but you aren't ELITE, yet. You are NOT in the class of Brady, Seymour, and Champ Bailey. Lets see if we can trade him to a team for a younger CB and a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

 

[TruthSeeker]

Goodbye Assante, nice knowing ya. Remember, you can't spell Assante without the word Ass, and that's what Assante is being.

 

[DaBruinz]

How about sending Samuel to the Bucs for Ronde Barber and the 1st 2nd round pick?

 

[TruthSeeker]

How about sending Samuel to the Bucs for Ronde Barber and the 1st 2nd round pick?

Isn't Ronde Barber better than Samuel ? Why would the Bucs do that ? Nobody's that dumb.

 

[DaBruinz]

I wouldn't mind a trade to the Titans if they sent Reynaldo Hill back with their 2nd this year and a 3rd next year.

 

[DaBruinz]

Isn't Ronde Barber better than Samuel ? Why would the Bucs do that ? Nobody's that dumb.

Except you need to take into consideration that Barber is 32. So he is 6 years older than Samuel. Yes, Barber is still very good, but Samuel has the age on him.

 

[mgteich]

Yes, the team should stand firm. AS won't hold out. There is too much money involved. We can force him to play at a probowl level for this year or even the next two and lead us to a SB. He'll be a locker room leader. He'll help the youngsters come up to his level.

Now let's wake up. If we don't trade him, and don't sign any deal with him, we'll next see him next in July (except perhaps on the beach wearing a jersey from another team). He'll likely not show up on the field until the week before the season starts. He won't be in game shape. He will be much more likely to be injured than normal for our defensive backs (that's pretty dismal). He'll try to look good, and people will complain about his attitude. Those are HIS rights under the CBA.

AS has played out his contract and patriot fans don't have enough. We think he owes us a lifetime commitment. He's played well. He's met his commitments. Let him go.

 

[DaBruinz]

Yes, the team should stand firm. AS won't hold out. There is too much money involved. We can force him to play at a probowl level for this year or even the next two and lead us to a SB. He'll be a locker room leader. He'll help the youngsters come up to his level.

Now let's wake up. If we don't trade him, and don't sign any deal with him, we'll next see him next in July (except perhaps on the beach wearing a jersey from another team). He'll likely not show up on the field until the week before the season starts. He won't be in game shape. He will be much more likely to be injured than normal for our defensive backs (that's pretty dismal). He'll try to look good, and people will complain about his attitude. Those are HIS rights under the CBA.

AS has played out his contract and patriot fans don't have enough. We think he owes us a lifetime commitment. He's played well. He's met his commitments. Let him go.

Sorry, MG. Its not that we think that he OWES us a LIFETIME COMMITMENT. On the contrary. We believe that he's not nearly as good as he believes he is in his mind and we believe that he's not worth more than Brady or Seymour. Samuel is not better than them. I don't even believe he's better than Harrison. I don't believe that teams are scared of Asante and its actually SHOWN by his having 10 ints and 24 PDs. That tells me that they continued to throw to his side. Also, I still contend that at least 5 of his ints were the result of the D-line and LBs getting in and pressuring the QB into a Bad throw or them tipping the pass and Asante happened to be in the right place. Heck, I bet Earthwind Moreland would have made those ints because they were right to him. The other 5 were probably Samuel jumping the route. But, how many times did he get burned last year?

 

[Mogamedogz]

With all of the information coming out, it is putting the Patriots in a bad bargining position.

Getting anyone's first rounder may be tricky. Unless it is an idiot like Dan Snyder.

 

[mgteich]

I agree with your assessment of AS's value to the patriots. Of course, we are in a bind and seem to be willing to overpay him for one year at almost $8M. I am fine with getting whatever we can, and move on.

Sorry, MG. Its not that we think that he OWES us a LIFETIME COMMITMENT. On the contrary. We believe that he's not nearly as good as he believes he is in his mind and we believe that he's not worth more than Brady or Seymour. Samuel is not better than them. I don't even believe he's better than Harrison. I don't believe that teams are scared of Asante and its actually SHOWN by his having 10 ints and 24 PDs. That tells me that they continued to throw to his side. Also, I still contend that at least 5 of his ints were the result of the D-line and LBs getting in and pressuring the QB into a Bad throw or them tipping the pass and Asante happened to be in the right place. Heck, I bet Earthwind Moreland would have made those ints because they were right to him. The other 5 were probably Samuel jumping the route. But, how many times did he get burned last year?

 

[upstater1]

Please change the title of this thread to "Asante Samuel is INSANE!!"

The guy wants more than Brady and Clements made in their first 3 years. Freak him.

 

[JackBauer]

How about sending Samuel to the Bucs for Ronde Barber and the 1st 2nd round pick?

Unless we plan on switching to a cover-2, eh.

But, how many times did he get burned last year?

Not that many, I'd think.

 

[tombonneau]

I'm in the camp that says Asante hold more value playing this year and being gone next than trading him this season for a 1st. I just think this team is way too close this year to winning a SB and don't want to F with that team makeup.

I'd rather keep him this year, and draft a future contingancy in 07 in case he is gone in 08.

And Arman I think summed it up beautifully: Nate Clements isn't worth Nate Clements money, so ain't no way Asante is.

 

[primetime]

The only way Asante's getting Nate Clements' money is if he starts cutting Nate Clements' grass.

 

[mgteich]

Insane, huh? Let us see who Samuel is playing for in the last half if this season. If it is anyone but the patriots (or on IR for the patriots), I would think that Samuel is not insane.

Please change the title of this thread to "Asante Samuel is INSANE!!"

The guy wants more than Brady and Clements made in their first 3 years. Freak him.

 

[danny88]

Insane, huh? Let us see who Samuel is playing for in the last half if this season. If it is anyone but the patriots (or on IR for the patriots), I would think that Samuel is not insane.

keep defending the greedy delusional player.