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By Mike Reiss | April 8, 2007

Icy feelings between Patriots coach Bill Belichick and his former assistant, current Jets coach Eric Mangini, have thawed this offseason.

Not to say the two men will be cracking lobster tails this summer on Cape Cod and reflecting on their success together, but they appear ready to put behind some of the circus-like atmosphere that has surrounded their strained friendship.

"We had a long history together and worked together in three different organizations -- the Browns, Jets, and Patriots," said Belichick. "Eric and I go back a long ways, our connections at Wesleyan, the same fraternity. It's just disappointing the way things went.

"The way I see it, it takes two to have a good relationship, and it takes two for that relationship not to be that way. It would take two to repair it."

Mangini, who has regularly lauded Belichick since landing the Jets job while privately wondering how the friendship could become so chilled, would welcome a step in that direction.

"I think I'm always open, I'm pretty much good friends with everybody I've worked with. I'm always looking to maintain those friendships," he said at the NFL's meetings last month in Phoenix. "We're not that far away from each other on the Cape. I get together with a lot of guys there. It would be great."

Whether Belichick and Mangini take that step remains to be seen. If they do, they would have plenty to discuss regarding how things have unfolded since Mangini was named coach of the Jets on Jan. 17, 2006.

There were the tampering charges that the Patriots filed against the Jets regarding receiver Deion Branch. Three handshakes/non-handshakes/embraces that were scrutinized as much as the games that preceded them. Belichick not mentioning Mangini by name prior to the first game between the teams. The Jets upsetting the Patriots at Gillette Stadium last November. The Patriots knocking the Jets out of the playoffs. Mangini hiring former Patriots assistant Brian Daboll this offseason.

Both clubs had terrific seasons, the Patriots going 12-4 and Mangini leading the Jets to a 10-6 season while earning Coach of the Year consideration.

Belichick said he spoke with Mangini after he took the Jets job, while noting publicly -- for what is believed to be the first time -- that his feelings toward Mangini last year had nothing to do with him taking the job with the Jets.

"Eric and I talked about it a couple of times last spring and there were no miscommunications," Belichick said. "It didn't have anything to do with him taking the job. I never said anything negative about it. He knows that.

"The fact of the matter is when he did take the job, I said complimentary things. I meant the things I said. It was a professional decision he had to make. I know it's his first [head coaching] job and that's a significant opportunity. It's just unfortunate where things went from there.

"Nick [Saban] was in this division for two years and it was completely different with him. There don't need to be problems. It's disappointing. I think both of us know where it's at."

Belichick said he didn't want to go into details. Neither would Mangini, who simply acknowledged the fact that being in the same division creates a "unique" dynamic to their friendship.

It's certainly been a unique 15 months when it comes to Belichick and Mangini. But the first signs of a spring thaw are in the air, adding yet another twist to the rivalry between the Patriots and the up-and-coming Jets.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/04/08/offseason_salvage_work/
 

Everyone in the media seems to think the problem is with BB and that Man-vagina is clueless to the reason behind any rift. My guess is that Man-vagina REALLY did some things that stuck in BB's craw (Branch tampering, etc.) and is just playing dumb about it.

Beyond that, why is it necessary for NFL coaches to be bosom buddies in the first place? I want rivals to dislike each other, it adds extra oomph to the competition between them. The Lovie Smith-Tony Dungy-Herm Edwards love-in last season made me kind of sick. It's almost like they don't mind losing to one another and are apologetic when one beats the other.
 
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Beyond that, why is it necessary for NFL coaches to be bosom buddies in the first place? I want rivals to dislike each other, it adds extra oomph to the competition between them. .

What was the famous Vito Corleone line, " Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.".........
 
that quote has a precedent:

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
Sun-tzu
Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC)
 
that quote has a precedent:

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
Sun-tzu
Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC)
Indeed, I am still of the mind that BB deliberately took one for the pupil in order to deflect the NY Media he so loves, from dissecting the young HC of the NYJ. The little bastitch proving he was good enough to win in the Foxborough mud allowed the "thaw" to start which is why BB was back to "normal" for the Playoffs. As you say, Sun-tzu guides football strategy too, like intelligence collection over a casual dinner...'and your AFCE Division pals closer.'
 
that quote has a precedent:

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
Sun-tzu
Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC)

He also wrote, "war is deception" which is pretty appropriate considering the amount of disinformation coming out re the draft.
For instance there was an article in the Buffalo paper ( too lazy to find the link) this past week that stated the Bills intended to draft Willis. Was this a slip by the Bills ( no stretch there) or were they trying to fool teams that might want Willis or deflect attention from another player????
 


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