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24 New England (from Seattle) – TRADE to Tampa Bay (1st for 2nd and
2008 2nd & 4th) Marshawn Lynch RB California

Am I missing something? Why would Tampa trade to draft Marshawn Lynch when they already have Cadillac Williams? ...not to mention an already crowded backfield with Michael Pittman, B.J. Askew, and Mike Alstott.
 
24 New England (from Seattle) – TRADE to Tampa Bay (1st for 2nd and
2008 2nd & 4th) Marshawn Lynch RB California

Am I missing something? Why would Tampa trade to draft Marshawn Lynch when they already have Cadillac Williams? ...not to mention an already crowded backfield with Michael Pittman, B.J. Askew, and Mike Alstott.

I would be very dissapointed if 1/2 of this draft happened.
 
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Dryheat,

Nice work. Thank you for putting the time and effort into the mock draft. The rest of the draft niks we can debate up and down but we do not know what is in the mind of these head coaches.

and it makes perfect sense for TB to take Lynch because who else is there except for Cadillac who did not stay healthy the past couple of years.
 
24 New England (from Seattle) – TRADE to Tampa Bay (1st for 2nd and
2008 2nd & 4th) Marshawn Lynch RB California

Am I missing something? Why would Tampa trade to draft Marshawn Lynch when they already have Cadillac Williams? ...not to mention an already crowded backfield with Michael Pittman, B.J. Askew, and Mike Alstott.

Askew is strictly a full-back. Pittman was a good rb. Alstott is the FB/RB mix.

Cadillac hasn't been able to stay healthy, missing 2 games + some of others so far.
 
I leave you with this question. What is it about Echols that makes you believe he can take the spot from LeKevin Smith?
While Echols didn't make my board, I don't see any issue with bringing in a second day DT for the competition. You may prefer someone else, I've got my preferences, but recent fan favorite Ty Warren didn't get the highest marks for endurance as I recall.
 
Dryheat,

Nice work. Thank you for putting the time and effort into the mock draft. The rest of the draft niks we can debate up and down but we do not know what is in the mind of these head coaches.

and it makes perfect sense for TB to take Lynch because who else is there except for Cadillac who did not stay healthy the past couple of years.

First, I want to say that dryheat indeeed put a heck of a lot of work into creating this 7 round mock. Well done, sir.

Okay, now back to the topic of Cadillac Williams. What if Laurence Maroney runs for 1000+ yards this year, but only plays 14 games? (Cadillac has started 14 games in each of his two seasons) Should we trade away valuable draft picks to select a running back in the 1st round? Of course not.
C'mon man - don't start thinking like a Lions GM. :) Cadillac Williams is a very good running back...nobody spends a 1st round pick to upgrade their backup situation.
 
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You think he'll last to the fifth round? I've been saying I don't want Sabby but that's mostly because everyone keeps projecting him in the third round. I'd take him in the fifth, but again does he last this long?

This was interesting. I didn't plan on Sabby being there and in fact it hit me like I imagine it would an actual GM. I was trying to see who was a good target for Detroit, and noticed his name, and said "How is he still here" and traded up. I think as Patriots fans, we concentrate so much on Patriots-type players that we forget about a lot of players highly regarded by other teams.

Am I missing something? Why would Tampa trade to draft Marshawn Lynch when they already have Cadillac Williams? ...not to mention an already crowded backfield with Michael Pittman, B.J. Askew, and Mike Alstott.

Williams so far has been a minor bust and may never be an every down back. Askew doesn't carry the ball. Alstott is done -- retired then changed his mind. Pittman has very little left in the tank. Jon Gruden, who isn't known for his poker face, has a raging hard-on for Lynch to hear him gush over him.

You don't like Gaines Adams? The guy is a monster and would look great lined up opposite Colvin or Thomas.

I like Gaines Adams very much. I have him going #6 overall to Washington. I'm not sure why we're discussing how he would fit in the Patriots scheme.

Really? Almost certainly make it to the practice squad? Am I supposed to be impressed by that? Come on. Echols is said to be tire easily and not be strong at the point of attack. How can you want someone who isn't strong at the point of attack?

Honestly. It's a late sixth round pick. I could put literally ANY AVAILABLE PLAYER in that slot, and you or someone else would say "He sucks. Too slow/short/fat/weak/inexperienced". That's why they are still on the board late in the sixth round. I'm sure all of us have our pet projects, he's one of mine.

and Wilfork has trouble holding the middle against the run at times also. But no more so than Wright does

I'm sorry reads a bit awkward to me. Are you saying that Wright is as good of an NT against the run as Wilfork is?

I leave you with this question. What is it about Echols that makes you believe he can take the spot from LeKevin Smith?

I see no reason why he can't. LeKevin is probably #53 on the roster and his career highlight has been practice player of the week once. LeKevin is also playing out of position at NT. Why not roll the dice on a kid who fits the NT mold perfectly, and see if he can develop into a serviceable backup with some coaching. We've kept Ethan Kelley and Santonio Thomas on the roster/PS for a few years for this reason.


I would be very dissapointed if 1/2 of this draft happened.

If I've called half of the 255 picks correctly, I'll eat my desk. So I think you're safe.

Like Spencer but he is a project. The Pats need a ILB to start or play a bunch this year. Can't wait two to three years on Spencer, unless you have in mind to pick up a Hartwell as a stopgap. I think Harris could be inserted now with the least amount of grief.

I have Spencer as an OLB. I agree Harris would be a great ILB prospect for this team, but I went for a cornerback there and waited on Bradley. I'll explain the Specer decision more in my next post.
 
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Explanation time:

28. Anthony Spencer OLB -- With this pick, I am allowing what I watched on Saturday afternoons override combine and pro day performances. He looked better than Woodley with a much worse supporting cast around him. I am a bit leery of spending a first round pick on a part time player, but in this scenario all the logical targets are gone, and it is late in the round. My vision for Spencer in 2007 is the Tully Banta-Cain 2005-2006 role, which admittedly isn't the ideal use of a first rounder. With coaching, he should be able to mature into an every down OLB by 2009. He should also prove valuable when we play 4-3.

35. Josh Wilson CB - After Revis, I think Wilson is the best man-to-man corner in the draft. He's shorter than ideal, but he has nice instincts, leaping ability, and positioning technique. Great recovery speed. A+ character. Willing and sure tackler. Playing at Maryland, which plays a similar D to New England, he was left alone in man-to-man frequently, and acquitted himself well against guys like Calvin Johnson, Chris Davis, and Chansi Stuckey. If he were 5'11" we'd be talking about possibly trading up to grab him with a first round pick.

91. Stewart Bradley ILB -- The best bet at this point to make an immediate contribution at ILB. Projects to a solid starter down the road. Bryan Cox without the attitude.

127. Darius Walker RB -- After AP, the most complete RB in the draft. He's fallen about two-and-a-half rounds since running a 4.54 or so at the combine. But he has a quick first step and has some wiggle. Also the most ready RB to play in the passing game. He could take over for Kevin Faulk next year, but has the ability for a spot start if necessary.

145. Sabby Piscatelli SS - Great 5th round value. Great intangibles and extremely versatile.

171. Jeff Rowe QB -- Matt Cassel is going to be a tradeable commodity shortly. Time to get somebody ready to go. The two non-first rounders I like are Rowe and Beck, but Beck looks to go in the first day now. This guy is going to play in the league for a long time. Could we wait until later? Probably, but why? Who else is going to help us more at this point?

208. Quentin Echols NT - Ideal size for NT. Dominated Shrine Game. Played against good competition. Should get to the PS and hopefully develop into a serviceable backup. This late we're not going to find many people to contribute to the team this year.

209. CJ Wilson FS - Mediocre cornerback, but I think he could be a good free safety, and a good value as such in this spot.

247. Ded Harrington ILB - Developmental ILB. Good kid and good frame and skill set. Needs coaching.

And a 2nd and 4th in 2008 -- This is too much. My first trade had us getting #64. Since we have received #35 instead, next year's compensation would be more like a second and a sixth.
 
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While Echols didn't make my board, I don't see any issue with bringing in a second day DT for the competition. You may prefer someone else, I've got my preferences, but recent fan favorite Ty Warren didn't get the highest marks for endurance as I recall.

I am all for competition as well. But, I also look at the Pats roster and wonder if the Pats would draft a player who they might feel isn't as good as what is on their practice squad or what is already at #53.

I just think that Echols can be had as a UDFA.
 
I think your draft is pretty good except for Round 1 and 2. :D
Both picks seem to be reaches. Spencer is actually not a bad gamble, a bit short, Josh Wilson has talent, but really short. Would have liked to see some prototypical players taken on the 1st day instead. Do we really need a poor man's ellis hobbs and another OLB that will come in as the TBC role with our early picks?
 
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I think your draft is pretty good except for Round 1 and 2. :D
Both picks seem to be reaches. Spencer is actually not a bad gamble, a bit short, Josh Wilson has talent, but really short. Would have liked to see some prototypical players taken on the 1st day instead. Do we really need a poor man's ellis hobbs and another OLB that will come in as the TBC role with our early picks?

Yeah, I wish there were more prototypical picks to be had, but I don't see any at 24 & 28.

I think Ellis Hobbs is going to be a poor man's Josh Wilson.
 
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but you said Tampa Bay would trade with us to draft LYNCH?? Jesus. I can say with 100% certainty this won't happen. Good work though making a full 7 rounder.
 
That is a hell of lot of work, nice job! I am glad that there is a least one more poor soul who is more into the draft than me.

I think we would all be pretty happy with a potential starters or high quality backups at:
OLB - Spencer
ILB/OLB - Bradley
CB - WIlson
SS/FS - Sabby

Again, nice effort.
 
Nice work, Uncle Heatster, thoughtful process all the way through from what I can gather.

Your effort brought two things to my mind-

1) I've also been pitching the idea of trading the 24 pick (to tampa as well), but now, looking at your draft, I think it would make more sense to trade number 28 instead because dudes like Beason or Ginn, or even Lynch, are too good for us to pass up at 24. The talent seems to really even out around 28 and so we could move down into the upper/mid second round to draft same type of guy we'd get at 28 for less money, and get a 3rd in this year's draft to go with it (the 12th pick in the 2nd and the 12th in the 3rd equal the number 28 overall pick by the value chart's numbers). Which brings me to-

2) The real value round as you've drawn it is round 3. It's chuck full of inexpensive talent like Weddle, Pittman, Hunt, Rouse, Bush, Tanard Jackson, Gattis, Hughes, Clowney, Shaw, Irons, Durant, Beekman. Nabbing an extra pick in this crowd would be a strong, efficient draft day play.
 
Yeah, I wish there were more prototypical picks to be had, but I don't see any at 24 & 28.

I think Ellis Hobbs is going to be a poor man's Josh Wilson.

If the Pats take Wilson, I very much hope that's the case. But from what I've been reading it looks like they cloned Hobbs and decided to stick him back into the draft again. :p
 
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That is a hell of lot of work, nice job! I am glad that there is a least one more poor soul who is more into the draft than me.

I think we would all be pretty happy with a potential starters or high quality backups at:
OLB - Spencer
ILB/OLB - Bradley
CB - WIlson
SS/FS - Sabby

Again, nice effort.
LIKE ALL PICKS O.K. EXCEPT WILSON. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER HOBBS CLONE. A SMURF CB AGAIN. YES AND SIZE DOES MATTER.
DW TOYS
 
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