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Yeh Just saw that. Thats' good.PUP? They just said he would be fine for the season.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Yeh Just saw that. Thats' good.PUP? They just said he would be fine for the season.
Pass is gone? ARE YOU SURE????Cousins,
They needed another RB anyway regardless of the Maroney injury. They lose Pass and Dillion and only pick up Morris.
On the news front, running back Laurence Maroney underwent shoulder surgery after the AFC Championship Game. That Maroney underwent surgery was first reported by the Boston Herald, and has been confirmed. Maroney will naturally be limited in the team's offseason program, but the injury isn't expected to threaten his 2007 season.
Good to know.
Hopefully now folks will accept that his injuries certainly affected production down the stretch.
But now the pendulum is swinging to other side, where proclamations of Maroney's impending doom are bellowed ad nauseum.
See, this is what I'm talking about, PatsChick, when I complain of the unjust praise Reiss tends to get around here.
he will politely print their vague statement "but the injury isn't expected to threaten his 2007 season" without pushing further with questions, the most important being "if you know enough about the injury to not expect it to threaten his '07 season, why don't you tell us?"
But now the pendulum is swinging to other side, where proclamations of Maroney's impending doom are bellowed ad nauseum.
Yeah, by doing a lot of legwork researching articles and by asking intelligent questions at press conferences, he has developed contacts within the organization. What a bonehead. He should be out there trying to spin situations into controversial stuff, trying to say anything negative he can like the rest of the so-called Boston media, then whine when no one in the organization will talk to him.
I'll take Reiss and Curran any day of the week ahaed of the other jokers. There is no unjust praise from them, only unjust and ignorant whining.
Reiss was fantastic at MetroWest, Curran equally so at ProJo. Reiss's Peices is the best sports blog going.
Stop carping and give credit where it is due, instead of your Tomase-Felger-Gresh-Borges lovefest.
Read what you wrote.
You are condemning Reiss for having information that Tomase did not have. Tomase said he had no idea how this would affect the season and you call this terrific investigatinve reporting. Reiss says it will not affect the season and you complain that he should have asked them why don't they tell him if Maroney will be able to play when that is what they just told him? It is not asking stupid questions like this that makes the FO think he has a brain. Sure, Tomase (or Felger) would have asked exactly this questions.
Pats FO: Maroney will be able to play the whole season next year.
Tomase-Felger: Why don't you tell us things like this?
Pats FO: Excuse me? We just did.
Tomase-Felger: It's stonewalling like this that hurts our relationship. You should have told me.
Pats FO: We did tell you.
Tomase-Felger: I'm gong home and write a story highly critical of the Patriots.
Pats FO: Anybody have Mike Reiss's phone number? Or Curran's? Or anybody with a brain's?
You don't like Reiss. Fine. Tomase saw Moroney in a sling before Reiss did. Cool. But that don't make Tomase great. The Patriots give out almost no information about injuries. They didn't have to give out anything at all except to say Maroney is day-to-day.
We finally have a reporter with enough cache to get some tidbits out of them. Stop your friggin' whining and say thanks.
Since the other Maroney injury thread has turned into a pissing contest about draft picks and injuries, I guess it's better to put this here. A poster on Indy Star (a resident Pat's troll who seems to have sources on player info) posted this about Maroney's injury on a thread there:
If accurate, the Bankart Repair is very good news,indeed. Sounds like a very common injury and interesting that most times it never makes the news. Except in Boston,of course. Ingrown toenails become newsworthy if spun just right
Yeah, by doing a lot of legwork researching articles and by asking intelligent questions at press conferences, he has developed contacts within the organization. What a bonehead. He should be out there trying to spin situations into controversial stuff, trying to say anything negative he can like the rest of the so-called Boston media, then whine when no one in the organization will talk to him.
I'll take Reiss and Curran any day of the week ahaed of the other jokers. There is no unjust praise from them, only unjust and ignorant whining.
Reiss was fantastic at MetroWest, Curran equally so at ProJo. Reiss's Peices is the best sports blog going.
Stop carping and give credit where it is due, instead of your Tomase-Felger-Gresh-Borges lovefest.
You are condemning Reiss for having information that Tomase did not have. Tomase said he had no idea how this would affect the season and you call this terrific investigatinve reporting. Reiss says it will not affect the season and you complain that he should have asked them why don't they tell him if Maroney will be able to play when that is what they just told him? It is not asking stupid questions like this that makes the FO think he has a brain. Sure, Tomase (or Felger) would have asked exactly this questions.
You don't like Reiss. Fine. Tomase saw Moroney in a sling before Reiss did. Cool. But that don't make Tomase great. The Patriots give out almost no information about injuries. They didn't have to give out anything at all except to say Maroney is day-to-day.
We finally have a reporter with enough cache to get some tidbits out of them. Stop your friggin' whining and say thanks.
Tomase saw Moroney in a sling before Reiss did. Cool. But that don't make Tomase great.
Dillon was great in 2004, okay in 2005, and became helmet-tapping Pokey #2 in 2006. There is a long line of backup RBs I'd rather have on the team next year, including Morris. (Not to take anything away from what Dillon WAS or USED TO BE, but losing him will not hurt our team in 2007.)
spacecrime said:Dillon was great in 2004, okay in 2005, and became helmet-tapping Pokey #2 in 2006.
Umm, nope. Not kidding. Are you? Sure you have your years right?You're kidding, right?
Dillon had a better year in 2006 than in 2005.
2005 was the crap year.
Spacecrime, I think this is the crux of the issue for those who are defending Tomase's approach to reporting. You assume that Reiss didn't know about the injury and Tomase simply discovered it first. Others look at the access Reiss has and his general diligence and timeliness in covering the team and figure he probably did know, but didn't report it because the team wouldn't like it.
This suspicion is grounded in the pattern of injury reporting to date. Can you recall any time that Reiss has ever broken the story of a Patriot player's injury or surgery? He's the man on the spot, yet it's always somebody else who reveals Bruschi's broken wrist, Jackson's torn ACL, Maroney's shoulder surgery, etc. Then once the story is public Reiss immediately fills in the missing pieces. Meanwhile he's the one who gets one-on-one interviews with Belichick, etc. It's perfectly reasonable to suppose this is an unspoken quid pro quo arrangement, where he goes team-friendly in what he reveals and they reward him with access.
As a fan, I'm ok with this. I'm glad that somebody is cultivating the kind of relationship that yields some reliable crumbs of info on our secretive football team. But I'm equally grateful for folks like Tomase who don't get as cozy with their subjects. If those guys weren't out there forcing the revelations, we wouldn't know anything. There is no way Tomase deserves to be lumped with Borges, as he has been in this thread. Read over his piece on Maroney again, there is nothing inflammatory whatsoever about it. (Don't count the Herald's screaming headlines, which the reporter has nothing to do with.)
Just to clarify once more: I'm not attacking Reiss, I'm defending Tomase. I really don't get the vitriol against him in this forum.
Umm, nope. Not kidding. Are you? Sure you have your years right?
His ypc were down in 2005, but that was due mostly to his leg injury preventing him from getting an intitial burst, and the fact that he could not cut to the left. This let LBs drift to where they knew he had to be, and chop his runs off short.
After 2005, I thought Dillon was doing just fine. After 2006 (heck, DURING 2006) I thought he was done. I cannot imagine anyone thinking after 2006 that Dillon had improved, or even stayed the same.
Exactly, Chick. Tomase and Reis actually make a great Good Cop-Bad Cop team. They play their parts very well and if a reader incorporates both of them, the reader is well served.
Reiss gets great background, but you are right. He gets it because he plays along with the FO and does seem to hold back what they don't want out there (kind of like the White House press corps during the FDR Administration going to great lengths not to mention the polio or printing pics of him in a wheelchair).
Tomase does his part extremely well also. He does seem to get the story out first by crossing to the areas where Reiss won't. Spacecrime seem to ignore the fact that without Tomase breaking the news, Reiss would not be writing about some of these things at all.
Tomase gets the initial break, Reiss gets the subsequent background. Honetsly, they should start their own blog.