Matt Schaub to Texans [merged]

[Trot]

for 2nd rounder plus "other considerations."

On NFL network scroll.

 

[coltsfan]

Re: Matt Schaub to Texans

Wow. The Falcons have the game against the Pats two years ago to thank for that!

I personally think he's a flash in the pan and not a legitimate stud.

 

[sebman2112]

Re: Matt Schaub to Texans

for 2nd rounder plus "other considerations."

On NFL network scroll.

Shaub is a good QB. I've thought for the past two years the Dirty birds would have been smart to kick Ron Mexico to the curb, and start Shaub.

 

[BelichickFan]

Re: Matt Schaub to Texans

Irrelevant to us, but interesting with the draft 38 days away (not that I'm counting or anything). Obviously that eliminates one of the possible "trade up for a QB" teams generally lowering the trade value of the top few picks by a little bit.

 

[R_T26]

Shaub traded to Texans

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10078226

 

[DB15]

Re: Matt Schaub to Texans

I like Schaub alot, but dam the texans are going about things all wrong... Carr doesnt even see the light of day the poor guy is on his back so god dam much

 

[ironwasp]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

Good for him. He deserves a start, although after spending some time behind Houston's O Line he might reflect that it is a good idea to be careful what you wish for.

From a Pats point of view, it removes one more obstacle from Brady Quinn becoming a divisional rival.

 

[DGameguy]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

Good move by the Texans. They get their starter without giving up a first round pick, after that proposed Jake Plummer thing fell through. Theyre finally moving in the right direction, and it makes the AFC South start to look tougher. Anyone's better than that stiff Carr.

 

[captain stone]

Re: Matt Schaub to Texans

Schaub to Texas, Carr to...?

 

[JoeSixPat]

Re: Matt Schaub to Texans

Schaub to Texas, Carr to...?

who knows, but Jake Plummer to stay retired... that's where he wanted to go... so maybe Carr to Tampa?

 

[Fixit]

Re: Matt Schaub to Texans

To the Falcons, whose foolish determination to stick with Vick is nigh suicidal, I say:

"You're effing dumb."

 

[captain stone]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=53047

Merge candidate?

 

[TealSox]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

What does this mean for the draft?

Carr is on the way out. Who are suitors?
- Raiders - Vikings - Dolphins - Cleveland - Lions - ?

All of these teams have top 10 picks and would be interested in a QB like Quinn or Russell. For the Raiders, this might force their hand to trade Moss, pick up Carr and pick Calvin Johnson. I think that the trade of Randy Moss might be more easily done IF there are three teams involved... say

Moss to Green Bay
Carr to Oakland
GB's 2nd round pick and an Oakland 4th round pick

Don't know if that works on the value chart, but just throwing it out there.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

What does this mean for the draft?

Carr is on the way out. Who are suitors?
- Raiders - Vikings - Dolphins - Cleveland - Lions - ?

All of these teams have top 10 picks and would be interested in a QB like Quinn or Russell. For the Raiders, this might force their hand to trade Moss, pick up Carr and pick Calvin Johnson. I think that the trade of Randy Moss might be more easily done IF there are three teams involved... say

Moss to Green Bay
Carr to Oakland
GB's 2nd round pick and an Oakland 4th round pick

Don't know if that works on the value chart, but just throwing it out there.

What we know it does mean is Atlanta is now in a better position to move into the late 1st for a "need" player, and there is one team with late first picks who is now looking at the draft for reserve/youth/developmental players instead of immediate impact players.

Who are the run & gun Vick-like QBs in this draft? Whichever offensive system Petrino wants to put in for Vick, he's now in the market for a mobile QB to develop behind him.

 

[milwaukeebeers44]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

Who are the run & gun Vick-like QBs in this draft? Whichever offensive system Petrino wants to put in for Vick, he's now in the market for a mobile QB to develop behind him.

They have DJ Shockley behind him and they like him. I think they'll likely sign a veteran to a short term deal to play for the #2 spot. Their needs lay more in O-line and D-line/LBs.

 

[patfanken]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

I think this is a GREAT deal for Atlanta - They got great value for a guy, who despite that great game against the Pats, doesn't have a .500 completion rate, or an NFL win to his credit. Also that #2 isn't a Patriot #2, its a pick in the 30's, in an area where the talent level of the players isn't going to be much different than the talent level the Pats are dealing with at 24 and 28.

As far as it concerns the Pats... The good news is, it give the Pats a possible trading partner if they want to move down at 28, providing Atlanta sees someone THEY want at that spot. It is possible, since they play such different offensive and defensive systems, that they are looking for different types of players. Getting a chance for a DE like Moss might make it worth it to them, while Moss isn't probably a target of the Pats.

The bad news is, it gives Atlanta capital to move UP in the draft to get AHEAD of the Pats IF their first priority is a safety. I think thats the only area where Atlanta and the Pats might be in competition of players

As for Carr. I think Oakland would be a great stop for him. That way Davis could draft Johnson and have a QB ready to give him the ball. Forget AAron Rogers. Most of Carr's problems were not of his own making. Charlie Casserly is a much better analyst, than he was a GM.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

They have DJ Shockley behind him and they like him. I think they'll likely sign a veteran to a short term deal to play for the #2 spot. Their needs lay more in O-line and D-line/LBs.

Yes, Path To The Draft had them on the clock and noted they will need some good OL who can "dance" with Vick in the pocket, and a DE. With Plummer retiring and Garcia in Tampa the only veteran QB with wheels off the top of my head is Aaron Brooks, hardly a good role model or teacher I'd think. Petrino being fresh from his run & gun gang in Louisville would seem (to me) more likely to look for a rookie he can develop "his" way behind the veteran Vick.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

I think this is a GREAT deal for Atlanta - They got great value for a guy, who despite that great game against the Pats, doesn't have a .500 completion rate, or an NFL win to his credit. Also that #2 isn't a Patriot #2, its a pick in the 30's, in an area where the talent level of the players isn't going to be much different than the talent level the Pats are dealing with at 24 and 28.

As far as it concerns the Pats... The good news is, it give the Pats a possible trading partner if they want to move down at 28, providing Atlanta sees someone THEY want at that spot. It is possible, since they play such different offensive and defensive systems, that they are looking for different types of players. Getting a chance for a DE like Moss might make it worth it to them, while Moss isn't probably a target of the Pats.

The bad news is, it gives Atlanta capital to move UP in the draft to get AHEAD of the Pats IF their first priority is a safety. I think thats the only area where Atlanta and the Pats might be in competition of players

As for Carr. I think Oakland would be a great stop for him. That way Davis could draft Johnson and have a QB ready to give him the ball. Forget AAron Rogers. Most of Carr's problems were not of his own making. Charlie Casserly is a much better analyst, than he was a GM.

I'm not convinced the Pats and Atlanta will be in competition for S in round one, but I do like the trade potential if a Spencer is there with deep pocket (picks) teams Atlanta, Tennessee, and Detroit all craving a pass rushing DE. Not to mention the Pats old trading partner Baltimore looking for a DE/OLB. The Pats holding two picks makes them the number one trading target.

 

[The 12th Man]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

I read on KFFL that the trade involved a swap of 1st round picks too and that the addition pick to Atlanta was a 2nd rounder of 2008. So Atlanta has #8 pick now and Houston has #10, I believe. I think Atlanta will still go for Landry at 8, who knows?

 

[BelichickFan]

Re: Shaub traded to Texans

I read on KFFL that the trade involved a swap of 1st round picks too and that the addition pick to Atlanta was a 2nd rounder of 2008. So Atlanta has #8 pick now and Houston has #10, I believe. I think Atlanta will still go for Landry at 8, who knows?

Yeah, that's whay Jay Glazer said :

#2 this year, #2 next year and Atlanta flip flopping #1s from #10 overall to #8 overall.

Nice haul . . .