Win, FAIL, or Meh: James Christensen, 3/7/14

[ctpatsfan77]

From Bleacher Report, by NEPD's James Christensen:

1. S Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois
2. G Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA [presumes Mallett + Pats' 7th trade for 33]
2. TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame
3. QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU
4. LB Christian Kirksey, Iowa
6. TE Colt Lyerla, ex-Oregon
6. CB Ricardo Allen, Purdue

Edited to add: A disclaimer that I missed: "For the purposes of this exercise, I assume the Patriots have signed Talib, let Edelman and Ryan Wendell walk and failed to sign any game-changing free agents."

 

[manxman2601]

Jimmie Ward in the first?


A big fat win!

 

[everlong]

6. TE Colt Lyerla, ex-Oregon

Not happening after his Newtown comments. No way, rightfully so, Kraft will sign off on that.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Jimmie Ward in the first?


A big fat win!

:idontgetit:

 

[manxman2601]

:idontgetit:

Best safety in the draft. Any mock with him in it is a win. No joke, I just rate him big time.

 

[Keyser Söze]

Ward in the first, FAIL.

 

[manxman2601]

Ward in the first, FAIL.

Have you watched him?

 

[Keyser Söze]

Have you watched him?

yes and it's a huge reach at 29. Trade up some in the 2nd for him.

 

[manxman2601]

yes and it's a huge reach at 29. Trade up some in the 2nd for him.

We'll see how he runs today but he's certainly first round worthy. Like I said, best safety in the draft as far as Iz'm concerned. Fair enough if you don't agree.

 

[ripatsfan91]

LOVE the combo of Xavier and Niklas in the 2nd

 

[ashley]

Wish the draft would have addressed the defensive line. Niklas in the 3rd I really like. I always thought Ward was a 2nd rounder and would all for taking him in the 2nd, he must be really moving up the draft boards.

 

[ripatsfan91]

With Shazier running in the 4.4 range today (low 4.4 I believe), take him with 29. I don't think Mallet will be traded, but figure out a way to keep 29 and get an extra 2nd rounder in the top half.

1. Shazier
2. Su'a-Filo
2. Niklas
3. DaQuan Jones
4. Exum
6. Trey Burton
6. Developmental QB (Qb that falls)
7. Unknown Rutgers player
7. BPA

 

[mayoclinic]

Wish the draft would have addressed the defensive line. Niklas in the 3rd I really like. I always thought Ward was a 2nd rounder and would all for taking him in the 2nd, he must be really moving up the draft boards.

Yeah, I called it a "meh" largely because of the lack of DL. Switch Zack Mettenberger in the 3rd to a DT (Caraun Reid or Justin Ellis, for example) and I'm ok with it:

1. S Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois. Not my personal choice and a bit of a reach, but not a huge one. He would certainly upgrade the SS position.
2. G Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA [presumes Mallett + Pats' 7th trade for 33]. Reasonable pick. I'm not 100% sold on him, but it addresses a need.
2. TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame. Reasonable pick.
3. QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU. Again, I'd switch this to a DT.
4. LB Christian Kirksey, Iowa. Again, I have other preferences, but a solid pick.
6. TE Colt Lyerla, ex-Oregon. Certainly has the skill set, below the neck.
6. CB Ricardo Allen, Purdue. Once again, not my pick, but not unreasonable.

Make it Dominique Easley instead of Su'a-Filo and then a lineman in the 3rd, and I think it's pretty darn good.

 

[Ivan]

From Bleacher Report, by NEPD's James Christensen:

1. S Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois
2. G Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA [presumes Mallett + Pats' 7th trade for 33]
2. TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame
3. QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU
4. LB Christian Kirksey, Iowa
6. TE Colt Lyerla, ex-Oregon
6. CB Ricardo Allen, Purdue

Zero chance the take Lyerla.

 

[captain stone]

I voted Fail. I want the next Rodney Harrison, not the next lil' Jimmy Sanders.

 

[manxman2601]

I voted Fail. I want the next Rodney Harrison, not the next lil' Jimmy Sanders.

And who is the next Rodney Harrison?

 

[BobDigital]

Meh.

1. S Jimmie Ward, Northern Illinois - A reach. Better off moving down 10 spots and I think Bucannon is about as good anyway. Good pick but not great value

2. G Xavier Su'a-Filo, UCLA [presumes Mallett + Pats' 7th trade for 33] - Good player but I think we should use this pick on a skill position on D. Get a guard later.

2. TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame - Sure if it is a late second. Good pick

3. QB Zach Mettenberger, LSU - No. No QBs this high. If Brady goes down we are screwed anyway and this is not a replacement IMO. Use it on an asset that can help

4. LB Christian Kirksey, Iowa - Meh... This be a good time to get a OL or WR for value. OR use it on a big time high ceiling athlete like Tipp - LB if you go LB here.

6. TE Colt Lyerla, ex-Oregon - Sure. 6th round. Take a shot I have been pushing for this.

 

[Off The Grid]

This continuing propensity to imagine that we could garner #33 for Mallett amuses me.

I'm still trying to convince myself we could get a 3rd for'm.

 

[manxman2601]

This continuing propensity to imagine that we could garner #33 for Mallett amuses me.

I'm still trying to convince myself we could get a 3rd for'm.

Agreed. It shouldn't be used in mocks until it actually happens.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

That's about as bad as I can imagine.