PatsFans.com Menu
PatsFans.com - The Hub For New England Patriots Fans

The Uncle Heatster Mock draft 3/14


Status
Not open for further replies.

dryheat44

Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
Joined
Sep 14, 2004
Messages
6,351
Reaction score
78
It's early, but I wanted to make a dry run to see what kind of options the Patriots could have on the board as they make their selections. More well-thought out ones will follow in the weeks ahead. This mock, unlike my usual ones, features only one trade:


1 Oakland - JeMarcus Russell QB LSU

2 Detroit - Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech

3 Cleveland - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma

4 Tampa Bay - Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin

5 Arizona - Gaines Adams DE Clemson

6 Washington - Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas

7 Minnesota - Amobi Okoye DT Louisville

8 Houston - Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame

9 Miami - LaRon Landry S LSU

10 Atlanta - Alan Branch DT Michigan

11 San Francisco - Levi Brown OT Penn St

12 Buffalo - Leon Hall CB Michigan

13 St. Louis - Jarvis Moss DE Florida

14 Carolina - Patrick Willis LB Mississippi

15 Pittsburgh - Chris Houston CB Arkansas

16 Green Bay - Trade. First I had them pencilled in for Ginn. Then Lynch. Then Olsen. Then I realized that they need a lot of help, and that Carriker is on the board. Therefore Green Bay trades the #16 and #47 to New England for #24, #28, and their sixth round pick. I think this represents a win-win scenario. New England drafts Adam Carriker DE Nebraska

17 Jacksonville - Reggie Nelson S Florida

18 Cincinnati - Greg Olson TE Miami

19 Tennessee - Robert Meachem WR Tennessee

20 New York Giants - Lawrence Timmons LB Florida St

21 Denver - Anthony Spencer DE Purdue

22 Dallas - Dwayne Jarrett WR USC

23 Kansas City - Tony Ugoh OT Arkansas

24 Green Bay (from Seattle via New England) - Marshawn Lynch RB Cal

25 New York Jets - Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh

26 Philadelphia - Ted Ginn WR Ohio St

27 New Orleans - Dwayne Bowe WR LSU

28 Green Bay (from New England) - Sidney Rice WR South Carolina

29 Baltimore - Jon Beason LB Miami

30 San Diego - Aaron Ross CB Texas

31 Chicago - Joe Staley OT Central Michigan

32 Indianapolis - Paul Poslusny LB Penn St


Second round

33 Oakland - Brandon Meriweather S Miami

34 Detroit - Ben Grubbs G Auburn

35 Tampa Bay - Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio St

36 Cleveland - LaMarr Woodley LB Michigan

37 Chicago (from Washington via NY Jets) - Charles Johnson DE Georgia

38 Arizona - Arron Sears G Tennessee

39 Houston - Justin Blaylock G Texas

40 Miami - Ryan Kalil C USC

41 Minnesota - Marcus McCauley CB Fresno St

42 San Francisco - Justin Harrell DT Tennessee

43 Buffalo - Brandon Siler LB Florida

44 Atlanta - Michael Griffin S Texas

45 Carolina - Zach Miller TE Arizona St

46 Pittsburgh - Brandon Mebane DT Cal

47 New England (from Green Bay) Tough call. As much as I like Harris here, I'll take Josh Wilson CB Maryland

48 Jacksonville - Marcus Thomas DT Florida

49 Cincinnati - Eric Weddle S Utah

50 Tennessee - Daymeion Hughes CB Cal

51 New York Giants - David Irons CB Auburn

52 St. Louis - Brian Leonard RB Rutgers

53 Dallas - Eric Wright CB UNLV

54 Kansas City - Craig Davis WR LSU

55 Seattle - Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame

56 Denver - Jason Hill WR Washington St

57 Philadelphia - Tony Hunt RB Penn St

58 New Orleans - Jonathan Wade CB Tennessee

59 New York Jets - David Harris LB Michigan

60 Miami (from New England) - Tim Crowder DE Texas

61 Baltimore - Manny Ramirez G Texas Tech

62 San Diego - Aundrae Ellison WR East Carolina

63 New York Jets (from Chicago) - Tanard Jackson DB Syracuse

64 Tampa Bay (from Indianapolis) - HB Blades LB Pittsburgh


Third round

65 Oakland - Steve Smith WR USC

66 Detroit - Fred Bennett CB South Carolina

67 Cleveland - Drew Stanton QB Michigan St.

68 Tampa Bay - Ray McDonald DE Florida

69 Arizona - Quinn Pitrooster DT Ohio St

70 Denver (from Washington) - Andy Alleman G Akron

71 Miami - Kenny Irons RB Auburn

72 Minnesota - Paul Williams WR Fresno St

73 Houston - Ryan Harris OT Notre Dame

74 Buffalo - James Marten OT Boston College

75 Atlanta - Quentin Moses DE Georgia

76 San Francisco - Ilaika Alama-Francis DE Hawai'i

77 Pittsburgh - Samson Satele C Hawai'i

78 Green Bay - Kareen Brown DT Miami

79 Jacksonville - Troy Smith QB Ohio St

80 Cincinnati - No pick (Ahmad Brooks)

81 Tennessee - Dan Bazuin DE Central Michigan

82 New York Giants - Johnnie Lee Higgins WR Texas Tech

83 St. Louis - Aaron Rouse S Virginia Tech

84 Carolina - Kevin Kolb QB Houston

85 Kansas City - AJ Davis CB North Carolina St

86 Seattle - Michael Bush RB Louisville

87 Denver - John Wendling S Wyoming

88 Dallas - Doug Free OT Northern Illinois

89 New Orleans - Rufus Alexander LB Oklahoma

90 New York Jets - Buster Davis LB Florida St.

91 Philadelphia - Tim Shaw LB Penn St

92 New England - Frankly, I don't know what to do. Based on Best Value, I'd give the edge to Darius Walker. But we're also in the neighborhood of Gattis, DeShaun Wynn, Paul Soliai, Stewart Bradley, Steve DeOssie, Sabby Piscitelli, and Rhema McKnight among others. After this, we only have one more pick in the top 160. It might be a little high, but let's give the Pats Zak DeOssie LB Brown, whom I like a bit more than Bradley.

93 Buffalo (from Baltimore) - Darius Walker RB Notre Dame

94 San Diego - Sabby Piscatelli S Oregon St

95 Chicago - Trent Edwards QB Stanford

96 Indianapolis - Travarous Bain CB Hampton
 
Last edited:
Re: The first Mock draft 3/14

Appreciate the work.
cry.gif
 
Re: The first Mock draft 3/14

I have to ask.

Why would we trade up to take a DE/DT when we have so many good, young ones on the team now?
 
From this draft board, I'd much rather have Darrelle Revis with the 1st and Brian Leonard with the 2nd. . . .
 
Yeah, why trade up, unless they want to get rid of Seymour.

I don't think he did that much last year. Where was he in the Indy game?

Don't think DeOssie is a 3rd round pick. Brown? He can run fast, so what?
 
Yeah, why trade up, unless they want to get rid of Seymour.

I don't think he did that much last year. Where was he in the Indy game?

Don't think DeOssie is a 3rd round pick. Brown? He can run fast, so what?

1) If they were to get Carriker, it would be to replace Green more than Seymour, though replacing Seymour could be the long term plan. Also, this could be protection against not being able to reach an extension agreement with Warren.

2) Seymour played injured. His elbow AND his knee. Also, since you missed it, the entire defense disappeared in the 2nd half because they were exhausted.

3) DeOssie is definitely worth a 3rd round pick. Heck, I'd say he might even be worth a 2nd rounder.
 
Dryheat -
I think that a more likely scenario for this trade would be the Pats trading their 2 1sts and their 3rd to the Packers for their 1st 3 picks.

This is definitely an interesting mock draft. I like the Picks of Carriker, Wilson and DeOssie. They are all value picks. Carriker because he protects the Pats against losing Warren. Wilson because he brings great talent to the CB position and DeOssie because he fills a clear need at ILB.
 
Nice work overall, but I just can't see either of the Patriots picks. With Nelson and Spencer on the board, I can't see them trading up. Admittedly, both aforemented players get taken before the Patriots pick, but Revis is available at 24 and Pozluszny/Beason/Meriweather are available at 28.

In addition, I don't like the value in that trade on the Patriots' side. The top 1st and the 3rd for the Packers' 1st would be a much fairer trade, or the Packers could throw in their 3rd or 4th to the original deal.

As for the 2nd-rounder, I can't see us selecting Wilson over Weddle and Harris. I don't dislike Wilson, but the other two players would be vastly preferable. I would likely take Weddle here.

At the 3rd-rounder, I can't imagine not taking Bradley or Piscatelli here. DeOssie is not a Day 1 pick.

I would prefer a
24 Revis
28 Meriweather/Beason
96 Bradley/Piscatelli (depending on the above pick)

to a
16 Carriker
47 Wilson
96 DeOssie

Ironically enough, I like almost every other selection you make. Jarvis Moss goes a little high and Steve Smith goes a little low, but other than that fantastic work.
 
Nice work overall, but I just can't see either of the Patriots picks. With Nelson and Spencer on the board, I can't see them trading up. Admittedly, both aforemented players get taken before the Patriots pick, but Revis is available at 24 and Pozluszny/Beason/Meriweather are available at 28.

In addition, I don't like the value in that trade on the Patriots' side. The top 1st and the 3rd for the Packers' 1st would be a much fairer trade, or the Packers could throw in their 3rd or 4th to the original deal.

As for the 2nd-rounder, I can't see us selecting Wilson over Weddle and Harris. I don't dislike Wilson, but the other two players would be vastly preferable. I would likely take Weddle here.

At the 3rd-rounder, I can't imagine not taking Bradley or Piscatelli here. DeOssie is not a Day 1 pick.

I would prefer a
24 Revis
28 Meriweather/Beason
96 Bradley/Piscatelli (depending on the above pick)

to a
16 Carriker
47 Wilson
96 DeOssie

Ironically enough, I like almost every other selection you make. Jarvis Moss goes a little high and Steve Smith goes a little low, but other than that fantastic work.

Just as a reminder, many people thought Lofa Tatupu wasn't a 1st day pick either. He got taken in the 2nd round by the Seahawks and many people have rated him one of the STEALS of that draft.

Sorry, but I can see DeOssie going to the Pats in the 2nd or 3rd round if they feel that is his value.
 
Sorry, but I can see DeOssie going to the Pats in the 2nd or 3rd round if they feel that is his value.

I think he's a day-one pick too. That blend of size and athleticism is just too scarce, especially in this draft. (In fact, his measurables smoke the likes of Chad Greenway and Bobby Carpenter from last year as well.) Add in top-notch intangibles and it's a rare package. The level of competition is obviously the big risk factor...but that's why he slides as low as the 3rd round.
 
16 and 47 is 1430 value points
24 and 28 is 1400 value points

Pats kick in a 6th rounder worth 16 points to even it up and give GB an extra pick and it's a much more likley deal.
 
Good work. I could live with Carriker, Wilson and DeOssie on Day 1.
 
Fins need Levi Brown if DC is going to have any kind of year. Miami D is strong as is, they need help on O.
 
I don't really like that scenario too much.

I like this one better-

24 - Posluszny, ILB - I believe this guy will excel in the pats system with the talent that we already have at Dl and LB

28 - Trade back, ( for the sake of this exercise we'll say Atlanta at 44 and we get their 75 pick as well)

44 - Weddle, FS - another can't miss prospect, this guy can and will do anything you ask him to do. has patriots written all over him.

75 - DeOssie, OLB - Pats put themselves in position to get Zak before the steelers and the jests come around again.

91 - Piscitelli, SS - This one could go CB, maybe Tanard Jackson. But I go with Sabby here.

And you will like this one.....





4th round Comp pick - Sepulveda, P - No more punter of the month club. This guy comes in and becomes our punter for years to come.
 
I don't really like that scenario too much.

I like this one better-

24 - Posluszny, ILB - I believe this guy will excel in the pats system with the talent that we already have at Dl and LB

28 - Trade back, ( for the sake of this exercise we'll say Atlanta at 44 and we get their 75 pick as well)

44 - Weddle, FS - another can't miss prospect, this guy can and will do anything you ask him to do. has patriots written all over him.

75 - DeOssie, OLB - Pats put themselves in position to get Zak before the steelers and the jests come around again.

91 - Piscitelli, SS - This one could go CB, maybe Tanard Jackson. But I go with Sabby here.

And you will like this one.....





4th round Comp pick - Sepulveda, P - No more punter of the month club. This guy comes in and becomes our punter for years to come.


I like your draft, though I prefer Wendling to Weddle for the free safety position. Though Weddle is intriguing because of his versatility.

As for Sepulveda, I think that you can rule out the Pats drafting a Punter because of them sending Malone and Baugher to NFLE AND keeping the right of first refusal on Todd Sauerbrun.
 
Just as a reminder, many people thought Lofa Tatupu wasn't a 1st day pick either. He got taken in the 2nd round by the Seahawks and many people have rated him one of the STEALS of that draft.

Sorry, but I can see DeOssie going to the Pats in the 2nd or 3rd round if they feel that is his value.

Fair enough.
 
I don't really like that scenario too much.

I like this one better-

24 - Posluszny, ILB - I believe this guy will excel in the pats system with the talent that we already have at Dl and LB

28 - Trade back, ( for the sake of this exercise we'll say Atlanta at 44 and we get their 75 pick as well)

44 - Weddle, FS - another can't miss prospect, this guy can and will do anything you ask him to do. has patriots written all over him.

75 - DeOssie, OLB - Pats put themselves in position to get Zak before the steelers and the jests come around again.

91 - Piscitelli, SS - This one could go CB, maybe Tanard Jackson. But I go with Sabby here.


I'm not a big Pos fan, but that's a fine looking draft. Basically it comes down to you liking Pos/Weddle/Piscatelli instead of Carriker/Wilson. I disagree, but it's certainly a defensible position. Two safeties on day one would surprise me.
 
Re: The first Mock draft 3/14

Box is happy though..........
:( No, it's only an Uncle Heatster mockery and not the real deal, though I admire his style.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.


MORSE: Patriots Draft Needs and Draft Related Info
Friday Patriots Notebook 4/19: News and Notes
TRANSCRIPT: Eliot Wolf’s Pre-Draft Press Conference 4/18/24
Thursday Patriots Notebook 4/18: News and Notes
Wednesday Patriots Notebook 4/17: News and Notes
Tuesday Patriots Notebook 4/16: News and Notes
Monday Patriots Notebook 4/15: News and Notes
Patriots News 4-14, Mock Draft 3.0, Gilmore, Law Rally For Bill 
Potential Patriot: Boston Globe’s Price Talks to Georgia WR McConkey
Friday Patriots Notebook 4/12: News and Notes
Back
Top