More signs Asante' Samuel isn't going to play the "Deion" contract ploy...

[NE39]

At least he is saying the right things.

From Adam Schefter:

Linebacker Lance Briggs is disgruntled about receiving the franchise tag from Chicago. But cornerback Asante Samuel does not share the same angry feelings about the franchise tag he received from New England.

Though Samuel will not show up at the Patriots' offseason conditioning program that kicks off Monday, the cornerback's agent Alonzo Shavers said Tuesday that it has nothing to do with the unsettled contract situation and everything to do with his client living and training in Florida.

"That's all this is about," Shavers said.

Samuel worked out in Florida last offseason, and nobody mentioned anything about his level of happiness. Shavers said anybody that has speculated that his client is staying away from New England due to unhappiness is incorrect.

So Briggs has set the record straight and now, apparently, Samuel's agent has attempted to do the same.

 

[unoriginal]

... because Deion never said the right things.

 

[zippo59]

Whatever Asante did in his offseason training last year he should do it again. Word is it made a big difference in him reaching the next level.

 

[pats63]

Whatever Asante did in his offseason training last year he should do it again. Word is it made a big difference in him reaching the next level.

I agree with you 100%,brother...I believe he wants to stay a Patriot for the long term....

 

[VJCPatriot]

Big difference between Asante and Deion is that Asante's agent is still maintaining contact with the team and answering questions to the media. As I recall Deion's agent completely shut down negotiations. And that was the big stumbling block. How the heck do you negotiate a contract when one side won't talk? And that's essentially how Deion forced his way out of New England. I am more prone to believe that Asante really does want to say because of what I've heard from him and his agent so far.

 

[BelichickFan]

I forget who said it but someone late in the season was saying that the Patriots needed to improve their offer but that Samuel really, really liked being with the Patriots and would love to stay if he could. I think the "signs" we're talking about are likely due to him really wanting to stay.

 

[hwc]

I think the signs we are seeing are because Samuels and the Pats already have a deal done, but don't want to sign it and announce before the draft. Better to keep the other teams wondering what our draft plans might be.

IMO, Samuels and the Pats had already decided to make it work. The franchise tag was simply to buy time until the "comparables" came in under the new CBA.

I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it.

 

[ChoWZa]

I'm sure the team worked very hard with Samuel to avoid a bad situation here like happened with a certain Wide Receiver. Although they were 2 very different scenarios the damage of the holdouts would be just as bad. Perhaps they do have a deal done.

 

[QB12]

I think the signs we are seeing are because Samuels and the Pats already have a deal done, but don't want to sign it and announce before the draft. Better to keep the other teams wondering what our draft plans might be.

IMO, Samuels and the Pats had already decided to make it work. The franchise tag was simply to buy time until the "comparables" came in under the new CBA.

I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it.

Very perceptive, and it has a ring of truth to it.

QB12

 

[psychoPat]

I think the signs we are seeing are because Samuels and the Pats already have a deal done, but don't want to sign it and announce before the draft. Better to keep the other teams wondering what our draft plans might be.

IMO, Samuels and the Pats had already decided to make it work. The franchise tag was simply to buy time until the "comparables" came in under the new CBA.

An ingenious theory!

Would that it be so.

 

[njpatsfan]

I think the signs we are seeing are because Samuels and the Pats already have a deal done, but don't want to sign it and announce before the draft. Better to keep the other teams wondering what our draft plans might be.

IMO, Samuels and the Pats had already decided to make it work. The franchise tag was simply to buy time until the "comparables" came in under the new CBA.

I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it.

Wow - stunningly insightful. It would be so elegantly Belichick-esque, if it's true.

R

 

[holyredeemer]

I think the signs we are seeing are because Samuels and the Pats already have a deal done, but don't want to sign it and announce before the draft. Better to keep the other teams wondering what our draft plans might be.

IMO, Samuels and the Pats had already decided to make it work. The franchise tag was simply to buy time until the "comparables" came in under the new CBA.

I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it.

Okay everyone. I must admit, I am extremely devastated. When I made a very very similar comment on an earlier thread, no one ever told me that I was "Stunningly insightful" or that I had an "Ingenius theory" and no one ever told me that I had a "perceptive theory".

In a previous thread, I stated the following:
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"I say wait on resigning asante. Put a deal in place and let his people know that after the draft, well gladly give it to him. We could use that to our advantage. A smoke screen tactic so to speak. I might be kinda overdoing it here, but to other teams, they'll have no idea what the pats are even slightly goin for. Any edge we can get, im for it."

So with all of the evidence out on the table now, I must ask this. Is there any law for being a reply stealer on this board. Hwc should be banned for 2 months without pay, in response to the uncanny similarities of our posts.

Okay. Im sorry. Its late, and I just thought it was absolutely awesome that someone agreed with me, without really agreeing with me. It was all a joke, and I am bored. LOL. Good post HWC. G'night ya'll. :rocker:

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

can people please stop comparing Asante to Deion? Deion was looking at giving up 1M by sitting. Asante would be giving up 7.8M. Also, all reports have been that NE was willing to pay Deion his market rate of 6M per season and the problem was that Deion wanted to tear up his remaining 1 year at 1M rather than working it into his new deal.

They're not at all the same.

 

[zippo59]

I agree with you 100%,brother...I believe he wants to stay a Patriot for the long term....

You mean sister.

 

[Mainefan]

HolyRedeemer, you were very insightful too. Ingenious, even. We just didn't notice it, who knows why. But this theory, yours and HWC's, make all kinds of sense.

 

[DarrylS]

I think the signs we are seeing are because Samuels and the Pats already have a deal done, but don't want to sign it and announce before the draft. Better to keep the other teams wondering what our draft plans might be.

IMO, Samuels and the Pats had already decided to make it work. The franchise tag was simply to buy time until the "comparables" came in under the new CBA.

I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it.

This is the old adage, once bitten twice shy, I feel pretty much the same not sure about the timing of the announcement, but there are indicators that it is probably all worked out or very close to being all worked out so much so that the glass is way more than 1/2 full.

 

[holyredeemer]

HolyRedeemer, you were very insightful too. Ingenious, even. We just didn't notice it, who knows why. But this theory, yours and HWC's, make all kinds of sense.

Mainefan, you have no idea how much that means to me. I just wanted some love love every once in awhile too. You understand dont you?? LOL. Thx. This Board effin rocks. GO PATS!:rocker:

 

[Jimke]

One thing to note from free agency is that the Pats have not signed a

cornerback. Could this be a good omen?

 

[mykl]

I think the signs we are seeing are because Samuels and the Pats already have a deal done, but don't want to sign it and announce before the draft. Better to keep the other teams wondering what our draft plans might be.

IMO, Samuels and the Pats had already decided to make it work. The franchise tag was simply to buy time until the "comparables" came in under the new CBA.

I could be wrong, but that's the way I see it.

While the sides may be close, there is absolutely NO WAY that a deal is worked out and being sat on! How do I know this? Because Asante would have to be a COMPLETE moron, and his agent should never work in the industry again if it is true. Let's say in the next month, before the deal is signed and announced, Asante loses a leg in a freak gasoline fight...he won't see any of the money, but if he signed now, he would get his guarenteed money. There is no way that he would be willing to gamble with his economic future so that our FO could play its mind games with other teams. It takes both sides to make something like this possible, and in this case, there is absolutely no incentive for one of the sides to play along.

 

[SoCal Bong]

Regarding working out in Florida: wasn't Samuel the one that trains with Jevon Kearse (and maybe some other big guys?). I seem to be recall some funny quotes about Samuel struggling to hold back Kearse in a running drill they do due to their large difference in size. Or am I thinking of the wrong guy?