Asante and his opinions on the tag

[PATRIOT64]

Has anyone heard ANYTHING regarding Asante's opinion on being tagged?

We heard nasty feelings about the tag from Charles Grant in New Orleans and now Lance Briggs in Chicago - seems like with the BIG contracts being signed this week more and more tagged players are speaking out and some more unhappy tagged players likely to come.

I have not heard or read any dissatisfaction from Samuel anywhere and maybe he is just doing the Patriots way of dealing with team issues and thats keeping quiet or maybe he knows once the FA period is over and draft picks have been signed the FO will negotiate or maybe they told him its a guaranteed extension in due time..I don't know but would like to know if he is at least content with the choice,we want a happy Asante - A happy player is a productive player IMO.

I hope the huge Signing contract Clements got does not seep into his brain and lash out like Briggs and Grant have done.

I guess no news is good news....Lets hope he comes to camp and his agent does not act like a **** like Rosenhaus or Condon and does'nt try to keep him on hold.

 

[ChoWZa]

Has anyone heard ANYTHING regarding Asante's opinion on being tagged?

We heard nasty feelings about the tag from Charles Grant in New Orleans and now Lance Briggs in Chicago - seems like with the BIG contracts being signed this week more and more tagged players are speaking out and some more unhappy tagged players likely to come.

I have not heard or read any dissatisfaction from Samuel anywhere and maybe he is just doing the Patriots way of dealing with team issues and thats keeping quiet or maybe he knows once the FA period is over and draft picks have been signed the FO will negotiate or maybe they told him its a guaranteed extension in due time..I don't know but would like to know if he is at least content with the choice,we want a happy Asante - A happy player is a productive player IMO.

I hope the huge Signing contract Clements got does not seep into his brain and lash out like Briggs and Grant have done.

I guess no news is good news....Lets hope he comes to camp and his agent does not act like a **** like Rosenhaus or Condon and does'nt try to keep him on hold.

He doesn't like it. Theres no reason for him to. I don't think he went public with his discontent.

 

[Ford Prefect]

I don't think he went public with his discontent.

Now that Rong Bogus is suspended, he has noone to talk to .

 

[patfanken]

I'm sure he wishes he could participate in this windfall atmosphere, but he can't. Its like I'm sure a lot of players wish THIS was their FA year. On the other hand, he made $400,000 last year and will make $7,800,000 THIS year. I know it could have been more, but the fact is he is now set for life... AND is still young enough to have MORE HUGE pay days in the future, IF he plays up to that level

 

[NumberTwelve]

Simply put: If Asante plays next seaon like he did in the 2nd have of last years, the Pats will pay up. Because if he does then only Champ Bailey is better

 

[PATRIOT64]

Simply put: If Asante plays next seaon like he did in the 2nd have of last years, the Pats will pay up. Because if he does then only Champ Bailey is better

Nate Clements and his deal tells me he is right up there with those 2 in terms of talent - Don't forget him.

 

[hwc]

I'm sure he wishes he could participate in this windfall atmosphere, but he can't.

Sure he can. All he has to do is sit down with the Patriots and negotiate a long-term extension. I'm sure they'd love to get it done.

 

[ChoWZa]

Problem for Asante is he can take a career ending injury this year *knock on wood* and has no $$ guaranteed. Not the ~20 mil he could have. Plus he can have a horrible season and never land the contract he could have this year. But like you say he's getting 7.8mil this year so.. you can only complain so much.

 

[hwc]

Problem for Asante is he can take a career ending injury this year *knock on wood* and has no $$ guaranteed. Not the ~20 mil he could have. Plus he can have a horrible season and never land the contract he could have this year. But like you say he's getting 7.8mil this year so.. you can only complain so much.

If Asante were smart, he'd get a new long-term deal done with the Pats. His market value is never likely to be higher. The fact that they tagged him shows that they would be likely to do a very attractive long-term deal.

 

[shirtsleeve]

Asante has a non exclusive tag. It means his agent can shop him around. But then the other team has to negotiate a deal with the pats for his release, or surrender 2 consecutive #1 picks. So he isn't happy, but he cant be as mad as those with the exclusive tag on their heads. He's not so trapped, like the others. One way or another, I see Asante with a long term deal this year.

 

[Fencer]

Asante's agent's public stance is that they want a long-term extension negotiated THIS off-season or Asante will pout. (I'm paraphrasing broadly, of course, but that's what it amounts to.) However, until they lose faith in that happening they're cool with the tag.

That said, their idea of what an acceptable extension is and the Pats' idea might be pretty far apart.

 

[ChoWZa]

Asante has a non exclusive tag. It means his agent can shop him around. But then the other team has to negotiate a deal with the pats for his release, or surrender 2 consecutive #1 picks. So he isn't happy, but he cant be as mad as those with the exclusive tag on their heads. He's not so trapped, like the others. One way or another, I see Asante with a long term deal this year.

I thought he had an exclusive tag. Meaning he averages the top 5 Corners this season as opposed to last.. You sure they gave him the non-exclusive?

 

[Miguel]

I thought he had an exclusive tag. Meaning he averages the top 5 Corners this season as opposed to last.. You sure they gave him the non-exclusive?

http://www.nfl.com/freeagency
The free agents include six players who this year were designated by their clubs as non-exclusive "franchise" players. The NFL includes Samuel as part of the six.

 

[TomBrady'sGoat]

not that it is worth anything but my I am impressed by how quiet Asante has been. While whining doesn't really get you anywhere lots of guys do it anyway. Asante is either mature enough to accept that the system screws him (though making 7.8M is hardly being screwed in the real world it is compared to where he'd be if not tagged) or smart enough to stay quiet about it.

 

[Va_Pats_Fan]

I'm sure he wishes he could participate in this windfall atmosphere, but he can't. Its like I'm sure a lot of players wish THIS was their FA year. On the other hand, he made $400,000 last year and will make $7,800,000 THIS year. I know it could have been more, but the fact is he is now set for life... AND is still young enough to have MORE HUGE pay days in the future, IF he plays up to that level

Or about 500,000 after taxes?

 

[ChoWZa]

http://www.nfl.com/freeagency
The free agents include six players who this year were designated by their clubs as non-exclusive "franchise" players. The NFL includes Samuel as part of the six.

Ah, great thanks.

 

[PatsMyBoyz!]

Right after the tag news didn't he state he was OK with it? I can't remember if it was on NESN or the All Access show or in an article,but I recall that tidbit. So either he really is ok or at least he's cool enough not to complain about it publicly. Hopefully he'll just get out there and play like he did last year.

 

[Fumblerooski]

Problem for Asante is he can take a career ending injury this year *knock on wood* and has no $$ guaranteed. Not the ~20 mil he could have. Plus he can have a horrible season and never land the contract he could have this year. But like you say he's getting 7.8mil this year so.. you can only complain so much.

I think the new CBA made the tag $ "guaranteed" which has softened it's blow to the risk the player takes.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

looks like pioli and belichick had a plan for this offseason that entailed franchising samuel so they could max an atypical FA run. i used to think they would trade him, but now i'm thinking that they're waiting to see where they stand on the cap after FA and the Draft. IMO, they'll either pay him this year or next year.

as for how he feels about this, it's a business and he knows it and, by the way, he is getting almost eight million dollars. his fate is in his hands. if he has another great year, his value will be even greater. he has the risk that he diminishes his value with a bad year next year (not even talking about injury). and, if he's a competitor, he'll take that as a challenge and try to stick it to the pats by having another great year and thus making it even more expensive for the patriots to keep him next year.

 

[marty]

Problem for Asante is he can take a career ending injury this year *knock on wood* and has no $$ guaranteed. Not the ~20 mil he could have. Plus he can have a horrible season and never land the contract he could have this year. But like you say he's getting 7.8mil this year so.. you can only complain so much.

Could someone explain to me how a "tagged" year is different from the last year of a contract in regards to a career ending injury for a player? This has often puzzled me. Say if Player A is on the last year of his 4yr contract, how is he any less vulnerable than Player B, who's got a one year tag, to a career ending injury. Just wondering. Also, aren't all NFL players insured?

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