CFB: Penn State loses at home...

[captain stone]

...to Central Florida. I love it.

 

[juxtapoz15]

...to Central Florida. I love it.

Why? Wouldn't you want a former BB coach to do well?

 

[supafly]

Kind of weird considering that you live fairly close to the main campus, no?

Of course I live in Pittsburgh and despise the Steelers, so maybe this is a case of the same.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Why? Wouldn't you want a former BB coach to do well?

this. I am a big penn st fan....2 games i went to there 5 years ago were the best sports memories i have..college games are a totally different animal

 

[captain stone]

Why? Wouldn't you want a former BB coach to do well?

Depends on where he is coaching.

 

[captain stone]

Kind of weird considering that you live fairly close to the main campus, no?

Of course I live in Pittsburgh and despise the Steelers, so maybe this is a case of the same.

Correct; Harrisburg covers PSU football extensively. What's also true here is that most of
the PSU alum/fans are also fans of the Squealers, even though both Philly & Bal'more are
much closer than PitsDirt is. They obviously suffer from one of the worst cases of "My team
is always right & never wrong" disease in the country.

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

Why?

Because innocent children were raped at Penn State and continued being raped because their football team was more important.

I would have loved for the program to shutdown completely, but since it's not, I just hope they never recover.

I don't care if (most) of the people involved are now gone. Penn State will always be affiliated with that and rightfully so.

 

[supafly]

Because innocent children were raped at Penn State and continued being raped because their football team was more important.

I would have loved for the program to shutdown completely, but since it's not, I just hope they never recover.

I don't care if (most) of the people involved are now gone. Penn State will always be affiliated with that and rightfully so.

While that is definitely a fair point, you'd better get used to NCAA shenanigans, because even the schools that are respected the most have their share of violations and problems. No one is immune.

As a Penn State alum, I am glad that they were punished and that the people involved will be significantly hurt; but you also have to respect the fact that the "new" kids coming in and the new regime of Bill O'Brien are attempting to overcome problems that they did not create.

 

[captain stone]

If the NCAA wanted to administer serious punishment, then PSU's TV exposure/money
would've been removed.

 

[vyrago]

Because innocent children were raped at Penn State and continued being raped because their football team was more important.

I would have loved for the program to shutdown completely, but since it's not, I just hope they never recover.

I don't care if (most) of the people involved are now gone. Penn State will always be affiliated with that and rightfully so.

"innocent children" is a phrase to which I heartily object. It suggests there are guilty children.

 

[scout]

While that is definitely a fair point, you'd better get used to NCAA shenanigans, because even the schools that are respected the most have their share of violations and problems. No one is immune.

As a Penn State alum, I am glad that they were punished and that the people involved will be significantly hurt; but you also have to respect the fact that the "new" kids coming in and the new regime of Bill O'Brien are attempting to overcome problems that they did not create.

I am also a Penn State alum, and enjoy watching the games. I didn't do anything wrong, nor did any of the current players or coaches. Evidently, the school has not suffered as it has been rated very highly in a number of categories.

My scorn is for the two individuals who are alive, knew and had responsibility to act and did not. That is where the dislike should be, not on the millions of Penn State fans. The next chapter hopefully involves long prison terms for those two individuals.

 

[upstater1]

If the NCAA wanted to administer serious punishment, then PSU's TV exposure/money
would've been removed.

It was removed.

 

[upstater1]

Why is football the only thing that should be shut down? Why not universities with child abuse scandals? Why not the Roman Catholic church? Why not a whole host of other institutions?

 

[scout]

Why is football the only thing that should be shut down? Why not universities with child abuse scandals? Why not the Roman Catholic church? Why not a whole host of other institutions?

Better yet, leave the programs alone and go after the individuals. The Catholic church is the organization which is the number one to be granted an exception. Evidently, the lawsuits, public awareness, and outrage has not completely deterred the practice of protecting priests. Then there is the other extreme, at Penn State Louis Freeh investigates and declares guilt without interviewing the top three officials involved in the scandal.

 

[goheels22002]

"innocent children" is a phrase to which I heartily object. It suggests there are guilty children.

Apropos comment of a thread about the "Nit" tany Lions. Are you Bill Landis?

 

[upstater1]

I am also a Penn State alum, and enjoy watching the games. I didn't do anything wrong, nor did any of the current players or coaches. Evidently, the school has not suffered as it has been rated very highly in a number of categories.

My scorn is for the two individuals who are alive, knew and had responsibility to act and did not. That is where the dislike should be, not on the millions of Penn State fans. The next chapter hopefully involves long prison terms for those two individuals.

Those two individuals may also present evidence exonerating them. The Freeh report highlighted some scandalous info, but the evidence in the back presented some back up for at least one of the people on trial. Look at the evidence in the back of the report. It's enlightening. Almost all the info comes out of Schultz's files on the Sandusky case. When Schultz reported Sandusky in 1998, child welfare services gave Sandusky a pass. When Sandusky was reported to Schultz by Paterno (after meeting with the assistant coach) in 2001, he kept handwritten notes of the meeting between the athletic officials, campus police and the attorneys. In that handwritten note, it showed that policy was set at that meeting in the days after the report, and not 3 weeks later as the Freeh report emphasized. The importance of the delay is that Schultz can show that the decision not to report Sandusky was made (together with attorneys) long before Curley (the other guy on trial) wrote an email to the very same people saying that he should be reported.

 

[upstater1]

Better yet, leave the programs alone and go after the individuals. The Catholic church is the organization which is the number one to be granted an exception. Evidently, the lawsuits, public awareness, and outrage has not completely deterred the practice of protecting priests. Then there is the other extreme, at Penn State Louis Freeh investigates and declares guilt without interviewing the top three officials involved in the scandal.

Paterno said it best. He screwed up bigtime, he should have reported it. But the facts are that there are cases post-2011 when universities and institutions kept these things shut. Both UConn and Michigan have had recent cases in exactly these matters with child abuse (committed by people not involved with athletics) that were also not reported by authorities. The head of the NCAA, Emmert, covered over rapes by football players when he was at U. Washington. Eastern Michigan had a president who covered murder. And Syracuse washed its hands of the Fine situation. I still think people will continue to do this as long as lawyers are involved. If you knew how Penn State's president handled other allegations of abuse regarding others than Sandusky, then the treatment of Sandusky would not have surprised you at all. PSU had a CYA policy similar to a great many institutions. And that's "I don't want to hear about it!" Little is said though about all the other institutions involved in the Sandusky case. Nothing said about the heads of "Second Mile" charity (the board members were clued into what was going on, yet they let Sandusky roam, and these men and women were captains of industry), or Child Welfare Services in PA., the State College police department, or worse, Clinton County High School where the first allegation of rape came out. Not only was the victim hounded by the Principal and football coach, but AFTER Sandusky was convicted, the victim was bullied.

 

[p8ryts]

This ought to be moved to another forum. This is not about the game. I read it hoping to see something on Bortles performance. Sorry I clicked on it.