Has Tim Tebow earned a roster spot on the Patriots?

[Ivan]

Here's another FAIR question..has Mallett EARNED his? If so how?...discuss....Both of our backup QBs have been really disappointing imho..


QUOTE=Ivan;3528878]Serious question. There are those on this site claiming that Belichick will keep him on the final roster, so the real question is whether they actually believe he has earned it or if they simply think they should keep him because they like Tim Tebow?

[/QUOTE]


Feel free to start a thread on it, I will answer.

 

[manxman2601]

How is that a loaded question?

Serious question. There are those on this site claiming that Belichick will keep him on the final roster, so the real question is whether they actually believe he has earned it or if they simply think they should keep him because they like Tim Tebow?

How is the bolded not loaded? Find me five people on this forum who think Tebow should make the team "simply" because they like him and I'll retract.

 

[Fawn Lebowitz]

Here's another FAIR question..has Mallett EARNED his? If so how?...discuss....Both of our backup QBs have been really disappointing imho..


QUOTE=Ivan;3528878]Serious question. There are those on this site claiming that Belichick will keep him on the final roster, so the real question is whether they actually believe he has earned it or if they simply think they should keep him because they like Tim Tebow?

[/QUOTE] I'd say he's earned it over Tebow. He can throw the ball and more often than not, read a defense. Pretty simple.

 

[Ivan]

You haven't defined earned. And I've justified a Tebow place on the roster in all the othe other Tebow threads - you just have to look at my second to last post in the mega-thread.

You justifying a place for Tebow on the roster and Tebow actually earning a spot are two entirely different things, and it is an obvious attempt at avoiding answering the real question, which is whether or not Tebow has earned a spot through HIS performance.

 

[Mike the Brit]

:youtheman:

If this thread is deservedly cast into internet oblivion, let it be recorded that it contained one post of comic genius.

 

[Ivan]

How is the bolded not loaded? Find me five people on this forum who think Tebow should make the team "simply" because they like him and I'll retract.

Actually what i am looking for is the Tebow supporters who believe he HAS earned a spot and for them to say what he has done to earn it. So far all i have seen are the Tebow supporters who want him on the team simply because he is Tim Tebow, and this poll and thread was an effort to actually locate the people you are talking about. So far none have appeared, otherwise we would be reading their explanations right now rather than their attempts to deflect from it.

Stand up and tell us what he has done to earn a spot on the team, the opportunity is staring you right in the face.

 

[manxman2601]

You justifying a place for Tebow on the roster and Tebow actually earning a spot are two entirely different things, and it is an obvious attempt at avoiding answering the real question, which is whether or not Tebow has earned a spot through HIS performance.

His performance where:

The meeting room?
Training camp?
Closed practices?

Because I can guarantee that all those will factor in to any consideration when the decision whether to retain Tebow is made. And the truth is, I, nor anyone else here knows the answer to that so we can't judge "HIS performance" properly.

 

[pats4life12]

Tebow will make the team the team beacuse Belichick likes him. Does he play i don't think so, he will sit the bench and be lucky to play a few plays this season.

 

[fnordcircle]

No, he hasn't. But he's still gonna be on the final 53 because they signed him with a plan in mind that was going to take longer than 2 months to realize. Hope this helps.

edit: lmao @ public poll to name and shame.

 

[Boogs]

My opinion won't surprise anyone, Tebow has performed worse than any other player on this team during this camp and pre-season and shouldn't be on the 75 man roster let alone the 53. If he is serious about a career in football he should go to the CFL and learn how to play well enough to make an NFL team. Imo it is ridiculous that some people want him on the team when he hasn't earned it.

Ok Bill Belickick.

 

[Ivan]

His performance where:

The meeting room?
Training camp?
Closed practices?

Because I can guarantee that all those will factor in to any consideration when the decision whether to retain Tebow is made. And the truth is, I, nor anyone else here knows the answer to that so we can't judge "HIS performance" properly.

We make these arguments all the time and to date there have been no reports from camp about how well tebow is doing, despite tens and tens of thousands of people attending. And his performance in the pre-season games was atrocious. So there is plenty to go on and we all make roster decisions based on what we have seen and heard, yet in this instance you want to avoid it and somehow claim we can never know. I call bullsh.t.

 

[Joker]

How is the bolded not loaded? Find me five people on this forum who think Tebow should make the team "simply" because they like him and I'll retract.

well, since CC and Betty are well known to fit that spec...I'll just post the male members..

AllThingsPats
Applejack
Awesomo 3000
Bannon
berrquyn
Big_Ed
bjj50
bullzeye_1980
CanTebowFan
Comrade
cowboysfan
cwinn1
Daemonblader
danangmarine68
Dave_O

dreamsfloatjoe
Everlong
Face Pwning Weak
FOTEBOWFAN
freetebow
G8orballboy
Harry Apol
honkykong
icicle1906
InTimIGator
J.J.
jackjax2005
jaws. 35

JFjets
John Chisum
jrnm 9
JustWinBaby
Let My Tebow Go
mattcup3
MXZ600
olailein
philabolt
Potzer
RD3
Remarker
RTF

secondguesser
TebowFan#1
TebowFans 5
Tebowing

that's simply more than five...Tebow's Harlots notwithstanding...:bump2:

 

[BTTA]

Mallett is the 2nd best QB on the team, and I'd say better and more upside than most backups out there...hence the roster spot.

But that's a different issue than earning the spot. Being the second best option may get a guy on the roster, but that assessment can be based on prior year performance, or a belief by the coaches that future performance will outshine recent performance.

From what's been visible to us fans, Tebow hasn't earned diddly. Is there more we can't see? Sure. But that could just as easily count against him rather than for him.

 

[Fawn Lebowitz]

His performance where:

The meeting room? Where he got the coaching staff refills of latte's?
Training camp? Where he loaded Brady's and Mallets rooms with snacks?
Closed practices? Where he rubbed healing lotions onto Amendola's hamstring?

Because I can guarantee that all those will factor in to any consideration when the decision whether to retain Tebow is made. And the truth is, I, nor anyone else here knows the answer to that so we can't judge "HIS performance" properly.

I really doubt his contributions warrant a roster spot.

 

[Ivan]

No, he hasn't. But he's still gonna be on the final 53 because they signed him with a plan in mind that was going to take longer than 2 months to realize. Hope this helps.

edit: lmao @ public poll to name and shame.

I didn't think so.


A poll to ask a valid question, the shame is on those who want him on the team but can't state what he has done to earn it, they just like him. pretty pathetic imo.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Here's another FAIR question..has Mallett EARNED his? If so how?...discuss....Both of our backup QBs have been really disappointing imho..

Based upon what we've seen - no.

I haven't seen backup QB play this bad since 2008 - when the general consensus, based upon what we saw in public training camp session and preseason games was that Brady's backup also wasn't good enough to start

However, Belichick saw something else

 

[Demosthenes]

well, since CC and Betty are well known to fit that spec...I'll just post the male members..

AllThingsPats
Applejack
Awesomo 3000
Bannon
berrquyn
Big_Ed
bjj50
bullzeye_1980
CanTebowFan
Comrade
cowboysfan
cwinn1
Daemonblader
danangmarine68
Dave_O

dreamsfloatjoe
Everlong
Face Pwning Weak
FOTEBOWFAN
freetebow
G8orballboy
Harry Apol
honkykong
icicle1906
InTimIGator
J.J.
jackjax2005
jaws. 35

JFjets
John Chisum
jrnm 9
JustWinBaby
Let My Tebow Go
mattcup3
MXZ600
olailein
philabolt
Potzer
RD3
Remarker
RTF

secondguesser
TebowFan#1
TebowFans 5
Tebowing

that's simply more than five...Tebow's Harlots notwithstanding...:bump2:

Was going to avoid commenting in this thread simply because it's moronic to have yet another Tebow thread, when this very question can be and is discussed in existing threads.

But, since you have chosen to use my name in a response, I felt the need to jump in and correct you.

Speaking for myself, I don't think Tebow should make the roster just because he's Tim Tebow and I happen to be a fan.

The only reason he should make the roster is IF Bill thinks he should for whatever reasons Bill might have.

Don't confuse "want" with "should". I WANT Tebow to make the roster. That doesn't mean I think he SHOULD.

I feel pretty safe in saying that most the people on the list you posted feel the same way.

 

[Kontradiction]

How is the bolded not loaded? Find me five people on this forum who think Tebow should make the team "simply" because they like him and I'll retract.

I thought you were talking about the thread title. The quoted one is definitely a loaded question.

 

[Ivan]

edit: lmao @ public poll to name and shame.

lmao-asking if Tim Tebow has actually earned something is "naming and shaming him and his supporters." if that doesn't say it all nothing does.

 

[manxman2601]

We make these arguments all the time and to date there have been no reports from camp about how well tebow is doing, despite tens and tens of thousands of people attending. And his performance in the pre-season games was atrocious. So there is plenty to go on and we all make roster decisions based on what we have seen and heard, yet in this instance you want to avoid it and somehow claim we can never know. I call bullsh.t.

Check my posts in the other thread which I know you have because you've replied to a bunch of them, and you'll know why I think Tebow could be a Patriot. So I'd say that accusing me of avoiding the subject is BS because I've probably bored people to death speculating as to why.