It's Officiel: Bills Shopping McGahee

[Va_Pats_Fan]

Send them Hill, straight up.

 

[newton_tom_cat]

Why is everyone acting as if Maroney needs another RB to compete with him?

Maroney is going to be a great RB for this team as early as next season. Yet people want to draft Bush and Leonard and sign bigger name FA's.


Theres really no need to do any of this.

maroney in playoffs:

jets: 18 for 69, 3.8 avg, 8 long, 0 TDs
chargers: 5 for 5, 1 avg, 5 long, 0 TDs
colts: 8 for 13, 1.6 avg, 9 long, 0 TDs

maroney started bad and got worse when he was needed most. dillon outpeformed maroney in all 3 post season games. if that makes you think maroney is a lock as a true #1 back and that we don't need a serious replacement for dillon then you need your head examined.

 

[pats1]

maroney in playoffs:

jets: 18 for 69, 3.8 avg, 8 long, 0 TDs
chargers: 5 for 5, 1 avg, 5 long, 0 TDs
colts: 8 for 13, 1.6 avg, 9 long, 0 TDs

maroney started bad and got worse when he was needed most. dillon outpeformed maroney in all 3 post season games. if that makes you think maroney is a lock as a true #1 back and that we don't need a serious replacement for dillon then you need your head examined.

And you need to get your head out of 2004.

Dillon isn't even half the back he was two years ago. It's all uphill for Maroney from here, and all downhill for Dillon. Get with the program. The Pats did NOT invest a 1st round pick in Laurence Maroney to take a back seat to a RB like McGahee.

How the hell did Dillon outperform Maroney in the Jets game?

Yes, the Pats will need somebody to fill Dillon's roster spot. It could be a T.J. Duckett, it could be a mid-round draft pick, but it most certainly will NOT be Willis McGahee.

 

[Keegs]

I thought i posted dumb crap sometimes.

This is horrible.

There is not a chance in hell we get Willis McGahee.
No way.


We have a way better chance of getting TJ Houshmazilla

 

[newton_tom_cat]

And you need to get your head out of 2004.

Dillon isn't even half the back he was two years ago. It's all uphill for Maroney from here, and all downhill for Dillon. Get with the program. The Pats did NOT invest a 1st round pick in Laurence Maroney to take a back seat to a RB like McGahee.

How the hell did Dillon outperform Maroney in the Jets game?

Yes, the Pats will need somebody to fill Dillon's roster spot. It could be a T.J. Duckett, it could be a mid-round draft pick, but it most certainly will NOT be Willis McGahee.

dillon against jets in playoffs 10 carries, 53 yards, 5.3 avg, 13 long and 1 TD. thats better than maroney. and i never said keep dillon. i said get some legitimate to replace him because it's a huge question mark if maroney can be a true #1.

 

[pats63]

And you need to get your head out of 2004.

Dillon isn't even half the back he was two years ago. It's all uphill for Maroney from here, and all downhill for Dillon. Get with the program. The Pats did NOT invest a 1st round pick in Laurence Maroney to take a back seat to a RB like McGahee.

How the hell did Dillon outperform Maroney in the Jets game?

Yes, the Pats will need somebody to fill Dillon's roster spot. It could be a T.J. Duckett, it could be a mid-round draft pick, but it most certainly will NOT be Willis McGahee.

I agree will get like TJ or someone in the draft....I would prefer the draft so we can mold for Kevin replacement...Kevin is doinf a hellua job for us,but he is on the wrong side of 30's...

 

[JDP111]

dillon against jets in playoffs 10 carries, 53 yards, 5.3 avg, 13 long and 1 TD. thats better than maroney. and i never said keep dillon. i said get some legitimate to replace him because it's a huge question mark if maroney can be a true #1.

Look at Maroney's season. He averaged 4+ yards a carry and 750 yards; he very likely would have rushed for 1k if he got more touches and didn't go down with the injury. He missed two games to injury and played injured for much of the second half of the season; he's a threat to catch the ball out of the backfield. What indication does he give you that he's not a number one back. I think we draft a running back in the third round, Tony Hunt tickles my fancy.

 

[newton_tom_cat]

Look at Maroney's season. He averaged 4+ yards a carry and 750 yards; he very likely would have rushed for 1k if he got more touches and didn't go down with the injury. He missed two games to injury and played injured for much of the second half of the season; he's a threat to catch the ball out of the backfield. What indication does he give you that he's not a number one back. I think we draft a running back in the third round, Tony Hunt tickles my fancy.

maroney's performance deteriorated throughout the season, culminating in this dismal playoff performance.

jets: 18 for 69, 3.8 avg, 8 long, 0 TDs
chargers: 5 for 5, 1 avg, 5 long, 0 TDs
colts: 8 for 13, 1.6 avg, 9 long, 0 TDs

total: 31 for 2.8 avg, 9 long, 0 TDs

im not saying he's to be written off. but i am challenging all those who have annointed him the future already.

 

[pats1]

dillon against jets in playoffs 10 carries, 53 yards, 5.3 avg, 13 long and 1 TD. thats better than maroney. and i never said keep dillon. i said get some legitimate to replace him because it's a huge question mark if maroney can be a true #1.

First, please take some English lessons.

Second, the Pats aren't going to roadblock Maroney with anyone "legitimate." They'll pick up an insurance policy, but it will be Maroney's, their hand-picked 1st round pick, job to lose.

 

[pats1]

maroney's performance deteriorated throughout the season, culminating in this dismal playoff performance.

jets: 18 for 69, 3.8 avg, 8 long, 0 TDs
chargers: 5 for 5, 1 avg, 5 long, 0 TDs
colts: 8 for 13, 1.6 avg, 9 long, 0 TDs

total: 31 for 2.8 avg, 9 long, 0 TDs

im not saying he's to be written off. but i am challenging all those who have annointed him the future already.

You're going to condemn Maroney for life because he had a stretch of a few bad games?

Look at his numbers in the last few games of the season. Keep in mind he was also playing with BROKEN RIBS!

It's called a rookie wall. It's called a pass-heavy offense in San Diego. It's called an abysmal time of possession in Indy.

 

[newton_tom_cat]

You're going to condemn Maroney for life because he had a stretch of a few bad games?

Look at his numbers in the last few games of the season. Keep in mind he was also playing with BROKEN RIBS!

It's called a rookie wall. It's called a pass-heavy offense in San Diego. It's called an abysmal time of possession in Indy.

maroney's performance was declining well before the injury. what it really shows is once defenses started keying on him - like they would with a #1 bacl - his performance dropped off to unacceptable levels. he doesn't scare anyone now. could he ultimately be a true #1 back? possibly, he is fast. is it a guarantee he's "the guy" like most on this board assume? definitely not, the cut list is filled with fast guys.

 

[pats1]

maroney's performance was declining well before the injury.

Where did you conjure up this?

Maroney was injured against the Lions, 12/03.

Here are his stats for the previous 4 games:

11/26 vs. Chi: 13 carries, 33 yards, 1 TD, 4 catches, 45 yards.
11/19 @ GB: 19 carries, 82 yards, 0 TD, 4 catches, 34 yards.
11/12 vs. NYJ: 12 carries, 37 yards, 0 TD, 0 catches, 0 yards.
11/05 vs. IND: 13 carries, 63 yards, 0 TD, 1 catch, -1 yard.

Which Patriot did have a good game against the Jets?

Also keep in mind Maroney was listed questionable with an ankle injury for the Colts and Jets games.

what it really shows is once defenses started keying on him - like they would with a #1 bacl - his performance dropped off to unacceptable levels.

See above.

he doesn't scare anyone now. could he ultimately be a true #1 back? possibly, he is fast. is it a guarantee he's "the guy" like most on this board assume? definitely not, the cut list is filled with fast guys.

Who the hell are you, a Colts fan? "He doesn't scare anyone now?" What, did you poll every NFL team?

The Pats drafted Maroney where they did for a reason, and he's done nothing to suggest he won't live up to that billing.

Maroney was also the Patriots' 12th man award winner in 2006:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2006/12/maroney_12th_ma.html

He was also named Special Teams Player of the Week for Week 7:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2006/10/honor_for_maron_1.html

He was also named Rookie of the Week and FedEx Air and Ground Player of the Week for Week 4:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2006/10/honor_for_maron.html

He was also nominated for Diet Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week in Week 2:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2006/09/maroney_nominat.html

 

[JDP111]

maroney's performance was declining well before the injury. what it really shows is once defenses started keying on him - like they would with a #1 bacl - his performance dropped off to unacceptable levels. he doesn't scare anyone now. could he ultimately be a true #1 back? possibly, he is fast. is it a guarantee he's "the guy" like most on this board assume? definitely not, the cut list is filled with fast guys.

You're arguments are foolish. You are clueless.

 

[newton_tom_cat]

You're arguments are foolish. You are clueless.

i think mean "your" arguments are foolish. now who's the fool, fool?

 

[newton_tom_cat]

Look at Maroney's season. He averaged 4+ yards a carry and 750 yards; he very likely would have rushed for 1k if he got more touches and didn't go down with the injury. He missed two games to injury and played injured for much of the second half of the season; he's a threat to catch the ball out of the backfield. What indication does he give you that he's not a number one back. I think we draft a running back in the third round, Tony Hunt tickles my fancy.

mcgahee had a better rookie season by far than maroney:

284 carries, 1128 yards, 4.0 average, 13 TDs

 

[pats1]

i think mean "your" arguments are foolish. now who's the fool, fool?

With your spelling in the title of the thread, I wouldn't be talking at all.

 

[jbb9s]

You're going to condemn Maroney for life because he had a stretch of a few bad games?

Look at his numbers in the last few games of the season. Keep in mind he was also playing with BROKEN RIBS!

It's called a rookie wall. It's called a pass-heavy offense in San Diego. It's called an abysmal time of possession in Indy.

How does your AVG get affected by "abysmal time of possesion." ? Maybe absymal time of possesion is because you avg under two yards a carry for two consecutive playoff games.

The fact of the matter is, after the first 4 games of the 2006 season, some people thought the Pats had the best running offense in the league because they had two starting backs splitting time. By the playoffs, it had evaporated. Maroney has been tapped as the man of the future but may not be there yet. Every running back is absolutely slammed with injuries by week 10 - and most starters had twice as many carries as he did.

There needs to be a quality replacement for Dillon to help facilitate the upbringing of Maroney - and his OC didn't help him along IMO.

 

[pats1]

How does your AVG get affected by "abysmal time of possesion." ? Maybe absymal time of possesion is because you avg under two yards a carry for two consecutive playoff games.

The fact of the matter is, after the first 4 games of the 2006 season, some people thought the Pats had the best running offense in the league because they had two starting backs splitting time. By the playoffs, it had evaporated. Maroney has been tapped as the man of the future but may not be there yet. Every running back is absolutely slammed with injuries by week 10 - and most starters had twice as many carries as he did.

There needs to be a quality replacement for Dillon to help facilitate the upbringing of Maroney - and his OC didn't help him along IMO.

How would adding another roadblock to Maroney help him along?

 

[jbb9s]

You're going to condemn Maroney for life because he had a stretch of a few bad games?

Look at his numbers in the last few games of the season. Keep in mind he was also playing with BROKEN RIBS!

It's called a rookie wall. It's called a pass-heavy offense in San Diego. It's called an abysmal time of possession in Indy.

All four teams in the championship games this year had 2 RB systems. This philosophy works. No one wants the next Terrell Davis who can't walk when he is 26.

 

[pats1]

All four teams in the championship games this year had 2 RB systems. This philosophy works. No one wants the next Terrell Davis who can't walk when he is 26.

Nobody is arguing that.

But last year, Dillon was "1" and Maroney was "2."

In 2007, Maroney will be just fine as "1". "2" could be Faulk, or it could be somebody bigger.