Ryan Clark running his mouth again

[Brady2Moss]

It's not accurate, it's the biggest bullcrap ever to remark that Brady ducking is a result of seeing ghosts. Brady phantom ducked again once this year, and we had a long post listing all the ducks that worked.

Brady ducks. A LOT. And most of the time he does it to great effect. Ask JJ Watt. If some people want to see Brady stand tall and get walloped all the times he would otherwise avoid pass rushers, they are missing the point--and the point is this: WINNING!

He gets jumpy now when no one gets open, in 2 seconds. ESPN had some stat where after 1 or 2 seconds his QB rating goes to one of the worst in the league when comparing QBs in that time period. Hopefully this is fixed by having more talent on the outside but is true this team got shut down in the playoffs because of a lack of WR talent each of the last 3 years.

 

[Danger Zone]

He gets jumpy now when no one gets open, in 2 seconds. ESPN had some stat where after 1 or 2 seconds his QB rating goes to one of the worst in the league when comparing QBs in that time period. Hopefully this is fixed by having more talent on the outside but is true this team got shut down in the playoffs because of a lack of WR talent each of the last 3 years.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Brady isn't the worst at anything and that includes the long ball.

Someone's number's are skewed or statistically irrelevant.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

Sorry, I don't buy it. Brady isn't the worst at anything and that includes the long ball.

Someone's number's are skewed or statistically irrelevant.

I say the same, I think some of it though is we specialize on the quick ball and we had no deep threat. Maybe with a deep threat his stats will be awesome.

 

[captain stone]

Ryan's Clark's best known play...an illegal cheap shot blind side...he's #25..

But that play happened vs the Jints, so I'm good with it.

 

[captain stone]

Some of this can go both ways. Could Brady have over-relied on Welker too much?

Also, I think the Steelers did well in man-to-man because the Pats weren't expecting it. Every time Brady faced the Steelers, they played zone. I think the Pats were caught off guard.

Clark brings up the Jets when mentioning Brady seeing ghosts, but fails to mention that the Pats are 4-0 vs. the Jets since that playoff game. And over those four games, Brady has thrown for 9 TDs and only one INT. That playoff game against the Jets looks to he yet another example of the Pats being caught off guard by a team that threw out their go-to playbook and threw something completely different at them.

I don't disagree with this, and I look forward to the Squeelers losing here on November 3rd.

The Ravens, however, are a different story. And I really, really hope that Arthur Brown & Matt Elam
don't become the next generation of Ray Lewis & Ed Reed for them.

 

[Brady2Moss]

Sorry, I don't buy it. Brady isn't the worst at anything and that includes the long ball.

Someone's number's are skewed or statistically irrelevant.

just use the eye test, it might be no fault with Brady just a lack of receiving talent.

 

[tonyto3690]

I wish our QB was more like Sanchez/Ben/Eli and have rocks for brains and rather stand in the pocket and be "a real man" while he stares down a receiver instead of being smart and not turning the ball over.

I mean between guys who stay in the pocket forever and have no concept of what's going on around them like Vick have done so much better than Brady. Why can't Brady be more like them?


Every offense gets worse when you're able to consistently rush the passer. That's like saying "well the Patriots defense isn't as good when they aren't able to stop the run!"

Against the Giants in SB 42 and Texans this past season, Brady was get WRECKED and he still played very well. Against the Texans he just obliterated them despite JJ Watt being on his back the entire game.

 

[JMarr]

Lol at all the kneejerk homers in this thread. I HATE Ryan Clark and think he's not very bright, but here's a guy who has game planned against Brady and the Pats several times in the last few years. Whether the Steelers' game plans always worked is irrelevant . What IS relevant is that, like him or not, Ryan Clark knows, oh maybe a thousand times more about how to attack the Pats' offense and try and rattle Brady than any poster on this board ever will know in their lifetimes.

Read the damn article--the guy makes some valid points that no one here seems to want to hear: 1) Welker's value to Brady, mainly based on being unbelievably in sync on timing routes and making reads [thinking Amendola will just step in and take over Welker's production is beyond idiotic--frankly it makes some of our fan base look downright delusional] is probably irreplacable. 2) the issue of Gronk's and Hernandez's inability to stay healthy. 3) Being able to slow down Gronk (when he even plays) and cover him one on one if you have a large very physical DB or two;and 4) the whole issue about press/man coverage being able to stifle our offense (if you have the personell to do it).

Everybody has chosen to focus on the whole "Brady ducking" thing and trash Ryan Clark, rather than acknowledging that some of the other things he says make perfect sense.

But by all means Homer-away if it helps you feel better about the state of the offense and how difficult it's going to be for Brady's to maintain his level of play the next couple of years. Ironically, the level of denial that some posters are in right now makes them resemble Jets' fans more than Patiots' fans.

 

[ausbacker]

Lol at all the kneejerk homers in this thread. I HATE Ryan Clark and think he's not very bright, but here's a guy who has game planned against Brady and the Pats several times in the last few years. Whether the Steelers' game plans always worked is irrelevant . What IS relevant is that, like him or not, Ryan Clark knows, oh maybe a thousand times more about how to attack the Pats' offense and try and rattle Brady than any poster on this board ever will know in their lifetimes.

Read the damn article--the guy makes some valid points that no one here seems to want to hear: 1) Welker's value to Brady, mainly based on being unbelievably in sync on timing routes and making reads [thinking Amendola will just step in and take over Welker's production is beyond idiotic--frankly it makes some of our fan base look downright delusional] is probably irreplacable. 2) the issue of Gronk's and Hernandez's inability to stay healthy. 3) Being able to slow down Gronk (when he even plays) and cover him one on one if you have a large very physical DB or two;and 4) the whole issue about press/man coverage being able to stifle our offense (if you have the personell to do it).

Everybody has chosen to focus on the whole "Brady ducking" thing and trash Ryan Clark, rather than acknowledging that some of the other things he says make perfect sense.

But by all means Homer-away if it helps you feel better about the state of the offense and how difficult it's going to be for Brady's to maintain his level of play the next couple of years. Ironically, the level of denial that some posters are in right now makes them resemble Jets' fans more than Patiots' fans.

Given the historic results against the Steelers, I suggest Ryan Clark and the Steelers D have absolutely no idea how to attack Tom Brady outside of the vaunted Amoeba D... which works once every three years. Now, had this been a member of the Giants team, that's a different matter all together.

 

[Brady2Moss]

Given the historic results against the Steelers, I suggest Ryan Clark and the Steelers D have absolutely no idea how to attack Tom Brady outside of the vaunted Amoeba D... which works once every three years. Now, had this been a member of the Giants team, that's a different matter all together.

Regardless of if the guy is a clown the point still stands that the offense has been flawed..hopefully the flaws have been corrected with this new look squad.

 

[ausbacker]

Regardless of if the guy is a clown the point still stands that the offense has been flawed..hopefully the flaws have been corrected with this new look squad.

Flawed or not the point remains that Ryan Clark should consider his position when discussing a team that has historically dominated his own over the past decade.

I won't deny there is a much needed refreshing and re-tooling of the O roster, however, there's been some very, very poor coaching and execution by the players in those losses.

 

[DefenseRules]

Ryan Clark should spend more time worrying about his own ******* team instead of trashing a player from another team. And as usual, the Brady haters agree with him. Yeah that Brady he just sucks. He loses too much. I hope you are all kinder to his replacement.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Thought Ryan Clark's comment about missing Welker, Brady's ghosts and this offense were spot on.

 

[FoxboroFlyer]

Could you imagine a Patriot player wasting time giving an assesment of a team, and QB that isn't even in their division?

Again this all goes back to the Stillers infatuation, with all things New England.
They can't get over the fact they don't have a QB any where near as talented, (or durable) as Brady.

It's just a shame Brady won't get the opportunity to light Clark's *** up this year seeing as by that point in time Shamarko Thomas will have taken his job (hopefully).

Thank goodness, for these insightful comments coming from a meathead playing on a team that will struggle to be 3rd best in their division.

 

[RobertWeathers]

vs the Jets in the 2010 Divisional Brady absolutely saw ghosts- sadly

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

He gets jumpy now when no one gets open, in 2 seconds. ESPN had some stat where after 1 or 2 seconds his QB rating goes to one of the worst in the league when comparing QBs in that time period. Hopefully this is fixed by having more talent on the outside but is true this team got shut down in the playoffs because of a lack of WR talent each of the last 3 years.

I think it was 3.1 seconds or more and he wasn't the worst, he was just closer to average (if my memory serves me right). but, he was outright unbelievable 3 seconds or less.

This just lets us know that the offense really is timing based and it plays to Brady's strengths. it also shows us that our receivers don't do as well getting open after that time. does brady need welker, who wouldn't if you had a guy that reliable.

 

[patsfaninpa]

I know he can't play in Denver. But, Clark's Pittsburgh Steelers defense lost a playoff game to Tim Tebow! Case closed!! I win!!! I win all the time!!!!

 

[Kontradiction]

who or what the hell is a Ryan Clark???

He's a guy that would have looked really good in a Pats uniform.

Ryan's Clark's best known play...an illegal cheap shot blind side...he's #25..

Hate on that hit all you want, but that changed the game for the Steelers. Cruz was relatively irrelevant after that hit and developed a case of alligator arms over the middle.

As for what he said, I don't take issue with Brady ducking much. Most quarterbacks get rushed when the pocket collapses but sometimes when Brady ducks, it'll make the pass rusher look like an idiot. Does he duck from phantom pressure as well sometimes? Yes. We've all seen it, so it does happen. But I'd rather he play it on the safe side like that from time to time than run around like a ****** that just set himself on fire and absorb a monster hit while trying to complete a bomb downfield ala Big Ben.

 

[JMC00]

He's a guy that would have looked really good in a Pats uniform

Didn't look really good in a Giants or Redskins uniform. Clark gets overrated because who he plays beside.

 

[Kontradiction]

Didn't look really good in a Giants or Redskins uniform. Clark gets overrated because who he plays beside.

He's been solid in games without Polamalu as well. He's the big hitter than wasn't an absolute liability in coverage that we could use (in his prime) next to a guy like McCourty. Now he's a little long in the tooth, but the secondary could have use his ability to decapitate receivers in the rebuilding years.