The Official Rounds 4-7 2013 NFL Draft Thread

[PATSNUTme]

Please post your comments, knee jerk reactions, and insightful observations regarding rounds 4-7 of the 2013 NFL Draft on this thread.

The draft begins at 12 Noon today

Here are some links to information regarding the draft:
A draft tracker which usually keeps up in real time with the picks and trades.

2013 NFL Draft Tracker - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com




Trade value chart that teams use as a guide
THE HUDDLE REPORT - NFL DRAFT

Player rankings by a couple of sites:

NFL Draft - 2013 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Scout.com: 2013 NFL Draft Rankings

As of now, the Patriots have picks #102,226,229,& 235 today.

Hopefully no more than one thread will be started to discuss the players selected, when selected, by the Patriots.

Enjoy the draft.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

quinton patton, darrick rogers, alex okafor, jesse williams still available

 

[goldenaleus]

I would love to take Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama @ 102.

Darkhorse - Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA.

 

[SONS_OF_BELICHICK]

I hope Lattimore is available.....I would love to take a flyer on him after the 4th round

 

[Wilfork#75]

Hopefully trade down for a lower 4th and a 5th. Still a lot of really good players on the board that can help this team all the way through round 7.

WR
Da'Rick Rogers
Quinton Patton
Kenny Stills
Marquess Wilson
Cobi Hamilton
Josh Boyce
Ryan Swope
Aaron Mellette

RB
Marcus Lattimore
Jonathon Franklin
Stepfan Taylor
Kenjon Barner
Andre Ellington

TE
Michael Williams
Dion Sims
Levine Toilolo
Nick Kasa
Chris Gragg
Joseph Fauria

OL
Barrett Jones
Chris Faulk
Reid Fragel
Brian Shwenke
Khaled Holmes
David Bakhtiari
Ricky Wagner
Luke Marquardt
Xavier Nixon

DT
Jessie Williams
Montori Hughes
Akeem Spence
Kwame Geathers
Everette Dawkins

DE
Alex Okafor
Cornelius Washington
William Gholston
Brandon Jenkins
Quanterus Smith
John Simon
Devin Taylor
Michael Buchanan
David Bass
Malicah Goodman

LB
Khaseem Green
Vince Williams
Gerald Hodges
Kelvin Reddick
Nico Johnson
Jelani Jenkins
Chase Thomas

DB
Phillip Thomas
Tony Jefferson
Shamarko Thomas
Duke Williams
Baccari Rambo
Jordan Poyer
BW Webb
Tharold Simon
Terry Hawthorne
Sanders Commings
Johnny Adams

Hell even good value at QB (might be a good year to pick up a developmental 7th rounder)
Matt Barkley
Ryan Nassib
Tyler Wilson
Zac Dysert
Tyler Bray
Landry Jones
Matt Scott

 

[patsinthesnow]

Forgot about Stepfan Taylor. If we traded down and he's there in the 5th-6th I'd love to have him.

Agree with the QB pick in the 7th. Scott would be perfect there.

 

[Wilfork#75]

Forgot about Stepfan Taylor. If we traded down and he's there in the 5th-6th I'd love to have him.

Agree with the QB pick in the 7th. Scott would be perfect there.

I know people hate the trading down thing, but I would love to have a few more picks in the 4th round. There might not be any immediate starters available but there are a lot of guys that would be upgrades and potentially impact players down the line. There are a lot of WRs and RBs that I think could easily win a roster spot and contribute. I think some of those TEs would certainly be an upgrade over Hooman and Fells. After Barrett Jones there are quite a few solid developmental O-lineman. And there are still plenty of D-lineman and DBs that could create roster battles and upgrade the lower part of our 53 man roster.

Plus we have all the guys that are much more talented then where they will be drafted but fall because of injury/character. Guys like Lattimore, Jones, Jessie Williams, Faulk, Rambo, Rogers and Marquess Wilson. Its these lower rounds where you can take risks on guys and this is where teams like SF are going to do really well because they can take these risks. This really is a deep draft of second tier talent.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Hopefully trade down...

Now there's a line I haven't seen a whole lot of on this board this week.

 

[zipster9]

Will Pats pick Jesse Williams, Alabama, in 4th?

He's dropping like a rock (along with many others). He had his knee scoped, and teams are nervous about his lower body cannot take NFL punishment...

If he is ok and is durable, he would be excellent next to Big Vince!

 

[mgteich]

Re: Will Pats pick Jesse Williams, Alabama, in 4th?

One can only hope, and wait.

 

[Kontradiction]

Re: Will Pats pick Jesse Williams, Alabama, in 4th?

He's dropping like a rock (along with many others). He had his knee scoped, and teams are nervous about his lower body cannot take NFL punishment...

If he is ok and is durable, he would be excellent next to Big Vince!

I would have rather taken a chance on him than reached on Harmon. If his health checks out, he could anchor the NT position, throw Vince out to RDE, Armstead to LDE, and we would be able to give opposing offenses 3-4 looks again (which our current staff of LB's are better suited for). But I want Patton with our first pick in the second round. Another big bodied, physical, athletic threat on the outside.

 

[Jimke]

There are some good ones out there as listed above. They will not all disappear after 4 picks but they will all be gone by mid-round. Take
the best player available with the 5th pick in the round and it will yield
a good player. Worry about the 7th round players later on.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Hopefully trade down for a lower 4th and a 5th. Still a lot of really good players on the board that can help this team all the way through round 7.

WR
Da'Rick Rogers
Quinton Patton
Kenny Stills
Marquess Wilson
Cobi Hamilton
Josh Boyce
Ryan Swope
Aaron Mellette

RB
Marcus Lattimore
Jonathon Franklin
Stepfan Taylor
Kenjon Barner
Andre Ellington

TE
Michael Williams
Dion Sims
Levine Toilolo
Nick Kasa
Chris Gragg
Joseph Fauria

OL
Barrett Jones
Chris Faulk
Reid Fragel
Brian Shwenke
Khaled Holmes
David Bakhtiari
Ricky Wagner
Luke Marquardt
Xavier Nixon

DT
Jessie Williams
Montori Hughes
Akeem Spence
Kwame Geathers
Everette Dawkins

DE
Alex Okafor
Cornelius Washington
William Gholston
Brandon Jenkins
Quanterus Smith
John Simon
Devin Taylor
Michael Buchanan
David Bass
Malicah Goodman

LB
Khaseem Green
Vince Williams
Gerald Hodges
Kelvin Reddick
Nico Johnson
Jelani Jenkins
Chase Thomas

DB
Phillip Thomas
Tony Jefferson
Shamarko Thomas
Duke Williams
Baccari Rambo
Jordan Poyer
BW Webb
Tharold Simon
Terry Hawthorne
Sanders Commings
Johnny Adams

Hell even good value at QB (might be a good year to pick up a developmental 7th rounder)
Matt Barkley
Ryan Nassib
Tyler Wilson
Zac Dysert
Tyler Bray
Landry Jones
Matt Scott

That's a good list. I don't think that some of those would be a good fit for the Patriots. I like Jones and Swope, so of they take either of those players, I'll consider this draft to be a success. I also like Ryan Spadola WR in the 7th.

 

[Leemo]

Wilforks list is pretty good but my fear is if we don't select one of the better guys available (which only means waiting 4 other picks) then most of them go off the board before our next pick and we end up panicking and taking guys we should have just got in the 7th in the late 4th and 5th rounds.

My preferences in order are:

#1 Da'Rick Rogers - WR
#2 Quinton Patton - WR
#3 Marcus Lattimore - RB
#4 Jesse Williams - DT
#5 Barrett Jones - OL

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

I have it on good authority that they will trade up to draft the assistant equipment manager from Claremont-Mudd-Scrippes College. They like his versatility and special teams possibilities

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[mgteich]

A guard seems likely.

 

[zipster9]

Wilforks list is pretty good but my fear is if we don't select one of the better guys available (which only means waiting 4 other picks) then most of them go off the board before our next pick and we end up panicking and taking guys we should have just got in the 7th in the late 4th and 5th rounds.

My preferences in order are:

#1 Da'Rick Rogers - WR
#2 Quinton Patton - WR
#3 Marcus Lattimore - RB
#4 Jesse Williams - DT
#5 Barrett Jones - OL

Barrett Jones would be very nice, as DanC is 31 and coming back from injuries. Would be our next OG.

IF, Patriots get Jesse & Barrett, I'm happy.

 

[Wilfork#75]

Wilforks list is pretty good but my fear is if we don't select one of the better guys available (which only means waiting 4 other picks) then most of them go off the board before our next pick and we end up panicking and taking guys we should have just got in the 7th in the late 4th and 5th rounds.

My preferences in order are:

#1 Da'Rick Rogers - WR
#2 Quinton Patton - WR
#3 Marcus Lattimore - RB
#4 Jesse Williams - DT
#5 Barrett Jones - OL

I think there is still enough talent left to move down to the bottom of the 4th and still get a quality player. I too would prefer those 5 guys over anyone else (I would also add Okafor and Washington), but there is also a reason those guys have fallen and they may still be there later in the 4th. With a lot of injury guys some teams take them off their board completely, so Jones, Williams and Lattimore could possibly be around for a while. Rogers has character issues so who knows where he goes, did anyone really expect Dennard to still be there in the 7th? I think if we trade down a bit we could still get one or maybe two of these guys in the late 4th/5th round.

Even if they are gone, would a combination of say Marquess Wilson or Kenny Stills along with someone like Chris Faulk be much of a downgrade from 1 of those guys? I am a big believer that the combined value of two players a little lower is greater than 1 higher. Especially at this stage of the draft when its not impact talent, but very solid players.

 

[PATSNUTme]

We should get a 4th,5th,6th, and a conditional 2nd in 2014 for Ryan Mallett today. I have not looked at the 'breaking news" yet so it may have already happened.

 

[bishbash]

Hopefully trade down for a lower 4th and a 5th.

Trade down for a lower 4th or 5th? Given Belichick's love for stockpiling for the future, I could see the Pat's trading out for 2014 picks if he can find a willing team.